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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
Source: my head
URL Source: [None]
Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
Views: 2744
Comments: 131

The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice.

Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that.

So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um:

1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?

2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is.

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

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#76. To: Paul Revere (#0)

Free Speech, adult views, lovely, concerned folks, and instant news 24/7.

14th Amendment / Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. [You have the right to remain silent, shut up and pay your taxes peasants ... hehehehehe].

noone222  posted on  2007-04-19   21:03:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, ALL (#48)

Stil waiting to see aircraft parts at Shanksville.

I never said there were. Just said you folks will never find out the truth about Flight 93 if you insist on promoting demonstrable nonsense like bombs in WTC towers and no Flight 77 at the Pentagon.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-19   21:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: critter, Dakmar (#61)

critter - There comes a point when we realize that trying to talk sense to you is fruitless.

Hey critter ... do you think this is a picture of slag from a pool of molten steel?

Dakmar - BAC doesn't understand that posting here isn't a job for the rest of us.

I find the paranoid delusion that I'm paid to post here quite fascinating.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-19   21:25:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: BeAChooser (#78)

I find that you find me fascinating fascinating.

"People like truth, it gives us a fucking benchmark." - dakmar

Dakmar  posted on  2007-04-19   21:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: robin (#75)

"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-19   21:30:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Mekons4 (#30)

I won a few bucks at the track today. What does Flintlock's sister look like?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-04-19   21:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: BeAChooser (#78)

So BAC, why are the people who make http://debunking911.com where you got the picture faceless? Who does the site?

They don't ID themselves on that site of sketchy double talk. A site like that and apologists for the administration and the shadow government people who control it were all expectable in light of how successful people have e been in bringing the truth of the false flag operation to light.

If they had been innocent, hey would not have destroyed so much of the evidence, now would they? For this pedestrian taunt of yours' to have teeth to it, there would have had to be preservation and analysis of he evidence that was melted don and destroyed.

But that would have been dangerous, yes? The powers that b just couldn't allow that to happen for obvious reasons.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   22:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Paul Revere (#0)

No poster has been banned without absolutely begging for it. No menacing and vicious penguins here.

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-04-19   22:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lodwick (#70)

Excellent. This site is almost perfect then.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-19   22:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Ferret Mike, critter, nolu_chan, ALL (#82)

So BAC, why are the people who make http://debunking911.com where you got the picture faceless?

ROTFLOL! That photo actually came from Steven Jones who presented it as proof of pools of molten steel at the WTC site. Here, this is a graphic from Steven Jones paper on the subject of what collapsed the towers:

Notice the similarity between the two images?

And if you want the original source of the image go here:

http://www.amny.com/news/local/am-wtcrelics-pg2006,0,4734727.photogallery?index=35

And look around and you'll find lots of additional images of that piece of rubble:

Funny, none of them look like slag from a molten pool of steel.

Steven Jones is a LIAR.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-19   22:49:05 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Sam Houston (#4)

http://freedomunderground.com

try .org instead....... They haven't gone anywhere.

rowdee  posted on  2007-04-19   22:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: BeAChooser (#85) (Edited)

I asked who produces that site you damn idiot. Answer the question.

I saw no citation and viewed image properties of the picture and got this address:

http://debunking911.com/pancake.jpg

I am not in the mood to play your silly baiting games.

The picture you obviously got from that site, and my question is about that site, answer accurately and stop playing stupid games. I do not like being baited.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   22:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: BeAChooser (#85)

Seems to really bother you that people are having a nice social thread without you. You feel compelled to stick your obnoxious nose into it and get your pitiful self noticed don't you.

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#89. To: Ferret Mike, critter, nolu_chan, ALL (#87)

I asked who produces that site you damn idiot. Answer the question.

Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is.

And the implications of it being authentic is that Steven Jones IS A LIAR.

I know that must trouble you.

ROTFLOL!

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-19   23:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: BeAChooser (#89) (Edited)

Hey dipshit, is this a thread about BeALoser? Or about 9/11? Why the fuck do you have to spam every thread on this site with your spam posts? I'd cut you down to 3 posts a week if this was my site.


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-19   23:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: BeAChooser (#85)

"ROTFLOL! That photo actually came from Steven Jones who presented it as proof of pools of molten steel at the WTC site. Here, this is a graphic from Steven Jones paper on the subject of what collapsed the towers: "

What I get when I click on source for that image:

http://debunking911.com/moltenn othing.jpg

Do a better job of presenting your crap. If it is a debunking911. com image FROM another source, make that plain, or actually get the graphic from the site you say it is from.

And WHO DOES THAT SITE? WHY ARE THEY FACELESS? ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   23:16:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: BeAChooser (#89)

"Does it matter as long as the photo is authentic ... and it obviously is."

All that is obvious is that you are playing games. Answer the question. Who produces that site?

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   23:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: BeAChooser (#85)

you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread?

(have i told you lately that i loathe you?)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   23:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: BeAChooser (#89)

Give URLs to the links in that site from where you got the graphics too and indicate whether you have any connection with that site while you are at it.

Being coy gets you no brownie points here.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-19   23:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: christine (#93)

(have i told you lately that i loathe you?)

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-19   23:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: robin (#95)

lol. i had that tune in my head when i typed it. :P

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   23:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Paul Revere (#0)

I like that you can talk about the JESUIT, ROMAN and PAPAL problem here as well as the Zionist problem. Even most of the "anti-semitic" sites are off limits to discussions abouth the connection between the Roman Church and the NWO.

Coral Snake  posted on  2007-04-19   23:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Paul Revere (#0)

What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?

Christine and Zipporah are my favorite things about this forum.

I also really like how I can post my rants here and not have to worry about the SS knocking on my door the next morning like has happened on LP with Fred Mertz. Well, at least it hasn't happened here yet. :)

I also love imawit's posts. That guy is a financial genius and 4UM is very lucky to have him posting here.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-04-19   23:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: RickyJ, imawit (#98)

Christine and Zipporah are my favorite things about this forum.

I also love imawit's posts. That guy is a financial genius and 4UM is very lucky to have him posting here.

thank you, Ricky.

imawit, ping to Ricky's compliment about you.

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-19   23:54:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: BeAChooser (#85)

Does it bother you that people arn't paying attention to you and your idiot, kooky conspiracy theories? Is that why you jumped into the middle of this thread, which had nothing to do with you or your kooky shit, and demanded our attention? Demanded our attention like any spoiled little kid would do?

Grow up and get a life. This sort of crap is precisely the reason why you are such a miserable failure wherever you go on the web. And I'm doing you a favor clueing you in here.

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#101. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#91)

What I get when I click on source for that image:

http://debunking911.com/moltennothing.jpg

So you think the evil folks at that website created that graphic and just attributed it to Steven Jones? Well your suspicions are unfounded. Here is a URL to a Steven Jones' distortion and lie filled presentation (from his own website) containing that misleading presentation slide:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/Fvolume/200609/DrJonesTalksatISUPhysicsDepartment.pdf

Take a look at page 26.

And lest you think Jones just didn't have a good enough quality image of that debris to know better, I direct your attention to another of his reports "Why Indeed Did the WTC Building Collapse?" ... FROM HIS OWN WEBSITE. And it does indeed contain a good quality image of that debris he implies is slag. See page 9.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-20   0:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: BeAChooser (#101)


A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!

Critter  posted on  2007-04-20   0:22:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: BeAChooser (#101)

Nostalgia  posted on  2007-04-20   0:23:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: christine, SKYDRIFTER (#93)

you are a total pain in the ass. you've gotta spam your sh!t even on this thread?

christine, it's a tribute to Freedom4um that important issues like the nature of claims about the debris at the WTC site can be discussed. And I'm not the one continuing this conversation on this thread. I've only responded to jabs directed at me. Starting with the one by SKYDRIFTER. When they stop asking for a further response from me, I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-04-20   0:24:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: BeAChooser (#104)

shalom fish breath.

now shut up. you are a spam monster.

"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-20   0:25:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: BeAChooser (#104)

I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.

get a clue.

stop posting on this thread.

"Aren't you lucky. You get to hear me whine about the 10 posts I'm allowed each day." -- BeAChooser

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-04-20   0:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: beachooser, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#104)

When they stop asking for a further response from me, I will be glad to stop posting on this thread.

Stop posting on this FORUM! (Asshole!)

Most assuredly, stop your fucking spamming!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-04-20   1:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Fred Mertz (#81)

I won a few bucks at the track today. What does Flintlock's sister look like?

Put it this way. A few bucks will get you a roll of quarters in change. More, if you really push it.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-04-20   1:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Paul Revere (#0)

One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others.

This is all too true.

Also people like to focus on the negative and give little if any credit to the positive. I see this attitude in regards to a lot of things.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-20   3:53:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: christine, Sam Houston (#4)

Generally wherever christine is you will find a place where freedom is not just given lip service, but is actually practiced.

Except when it comes to BeAChooser [okey don't hit me!]

Diana  posted on  2007-04-20   4:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: scrapper2, christine, critter, Paul Revere (#21)

And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here.

That is what I like very much, this forum has more personality than any of the others I have seen, with all sorts of colorful characters.

Years ago when I lurked on FR it was that way, and I got a kick out of the various personalities. I finally joined, but Jim Rob lowered the hatchet and got rid of all the interesting types until the only people left were dull replicas of one another who mostly chanted slogans and gushed over their Mr. President. Talk about a drastic change from it's beginnings.

There are also very bright posters here, sometimes I feel dumb in comparison, and wonder how so many of them can know so much about a wide variety of topics.

And then of course there is critter who is very cute and funny.

There are some questionable oddballs here as there are everywhere, but the overall quality of posters here is very good.

Wish Burkeman would come back though.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-20   4:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: BeAChooser, Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, roughrider (#36)

ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?

Actually, some of us have to work once in a while.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=24#C24

See my #24 thru #29 on that other thread on which you are being methodically demolished.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-04-20   5:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Diana, Burkeman1, Leveller, roughrider, nolu_chan, all (#111) (Edited)

Wish Burkeman would come back though.

"ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?"

"Bwahahah! ROTFLOL! You cannot hope to challenge me, SKYDRIFTER! I have beaten the roughrider, I have defeated the nolu_chan! Now there is no one who can stop me! I will RULE THE WORLD! BWAHAHAHAHA! ROTFLOL!"

Please come back, Burkeman1 and Leveller! The Forum is UNDER ATTACK! WE NEED YOU!

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   10:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: BeAChooser (#101)

"So you think the evil folks at that website created that graphic and just attributed it to Steven Jones? Well your suspicions are unfounded. Here is a URL to a Steven Jones' distortion and lie filled presentation (from his own website) containing that misleading presentation slide"

I don't want your editorialization about what prompts the questions you still avoid answering.

Answer my question about that site, or shut the Hell up. I want nothing more then that from th likes of you.

Stop playing games.

"G.W. Bush has gathered around him upper-crust C-students who know no history or geography." --Kurt Vonnegut

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-04-20   11:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: nolu_chan, Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, roughrider, ALL (#112)

Actually, some of us have to work once in a while.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=50387&Disp=24#C24

See my #24 thru #29 on that other thread on which you are being methodically demolished.

I'll just repost my response to your #28 to show readers how *methodically* you were demolishing YOURSELF.

ROTFLOL!

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#34. To: nolu_chan, ALL (#28)

"This was a back of the envelope calculation done AFTER the design was complete."

It is a White Paper from 1964. Groundbreaking occurred two years later in 1966.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_and_construction_of_the_World_Trade_Center "On September 20, 1962, the Port Authority announced the selection of Minoru Yamasaki as lead architect, and Emery Roth & Sons as associate architects.[26] Yamasaki came up with the idea of twin towers. To meet the Port Authority's requirement to build 10 million square feet of office space, the towers would each be 110-stories tall. Yamasaki remarked that the "obvious alternative, a group of several large buildings, would have looked like a housing project".[27] Yamasaki's design for the World Trade Center was unveiled to the public on January 18, 1964, with an eight-foot model.[27]

So there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that any White Paper from 1964 affected the DESIGN.

You don't know what you are talking about nolu_chan.

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BeAChooser posted on 2007-04-20 17:27:23 ET

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