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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
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Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
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Comments: 131
The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice. Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that. So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um: 1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons? 2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is. What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
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#1. To: Paul Revere (#0)
It is as open as you could want, a discussion of the Jewish problem is not censored. Best site by that that I have found. And Chris and Zipporah are really great people, stunninglly beautiful, wise while being whitty and generous to a fault. As well as being susceptable to flattery.
Best site by that that I have found. Tell me about it. The Shout Down is in full effect at almost all message boards on line. You cannot talk about Zionism and those who have stolen the US government to effect their mideast plans. You cannot talk about the 9-11 fraud. Here I can, and that means a lot.
True to it's name: Freedom4UM!!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition It took me a while to find where christine had gone when I was left all alone with a woman named palo (I love you!) verde at a place called http://freedomunderground.com (which is no longer there; I just checked). Generally wherever christine is you will find a place where freedom is not just given lip service, but is actually practiced. That's why I was fortunate to find her new site. I can't remember when the migration took place from FU (I still love that abbreviation) to here. So I thank christine and Zipporah and whomever else deserves credit for this place of unfettered free expression. I wonder whatever happened to palo verde. I'm sure she still loves us all. Certainly nothing wrong with that. "What the world needs now is love, sweet love ..."
The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
What do I like about freedom4um? No badeye. No Kossack or DU PC censors. No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill). No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC). No overriding political agenda. Great moderators.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
Project megaphone members need not apply.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I admire the freedom of expression, while reasonable restraints are also present. (No badeye, here!) If you want to be a turkey, you do so at your own peril. (Reminds me of the Territory days of Alaska.) [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]
In general: There is not enough gratitude for forum hosts these days across the board of political cyber thinkers. Nine times out of ten, we never know the extent of their background struggles are to make places like this possible. Specifically: What I like about Freedom4um is that it's always up and running - very stable. That in and of itself is a pain in the ass. Here, there are no SQL Errors or, a sappy apology posted for Maintenance Mode. The software here is robust, and professionally built. Money well spent. Also, Holocaust Memorial Week was not celebrated here. Yay!!!
http://freedomunderground.com (which is no longer there; I just checked). The forum you refer to is at .org, not .com.
Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.
No badeye. No Kossack or DU PC censors. No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill). No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC). No overriding political agenda. Great moderators. I don't know who badeye is, and never posted at KOS, but I found that place annoying when I tried to read it. Too many places have rigid pecking orders, and pecking orders produce a lot of peckerheads. I did post at DU for a few months and got booted out. Boy, are they not liberal or libertarian minded! What a gaggle of honking geese! And the DU moderators are suck ass to the max. That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass.
I did post at DU for a few months and got booted out. Boy, are they not liberal or libertarian minded! What a gaggle of honking geese! And the DU moderators are suck ass to the max. That dork named The Magistrate is the biggest jackass I've ever seen. He starts shit with people, then deletes their responses to his obnoxious remarks. He's a jackass. I've posted at both DU and Kos, although with a great deal more restraint than here. I like DU better than Kos, simply because of its structure, larger member activity and no one-a-day diary limitation. Mostly I just bop over there on occasion to read whassup and occasionally steal an article. My favorite reading hole is Lew rockwell's site, although I rather like Counterpunch and http://antiwar.com. But 4 is pretty much my posting home.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
ahhhhh ;) thanks for the affirmation and i hope y'all know how much i appreciate you and your contributions to this board.
Smart, independent folks, many of whom know a shitload more about the world than I do. I come to get the big news and see what the smart asses here (and the not-so- smart asses here) have to say about it. Sometimes I even get into it with posters here, and I always learn something, even if it's arguing with the likes of Yertle. This site is a great quality of life enhancer. It help me maintain my equilibrium and my self respect as a huma-bean with all the horrible crap that is crashing down on us these days. Christine & Zipp are hip.
Gloria est pro petroleo mori.
Well, different strokes. I like the subtle, low key nature of the board. It's all about the posts, not the distractions.
This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
Zipporah*
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
AND AIPAC discussion and USS Liberty discussion and discussion of lots and lots of other subjects that seem to be taboo elsewhere. And while I occasionally find the trashing of taboos offensive, it smells suspiciously like freedom, so I'm all for it, even if I wince occasionally.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I like flirting with the girls. I like the dedication of many of the 9/11 researchers here on 4um. I like flirting with the girls here. I like that 99.9% of the people here seem to be looking for honest answers to some serious questions about our times, and engage in some excellent brainstorming and debate. I like flirting with the girls here. I like all of the features Neil has built into this software. I think this is the one true free speech friendly political forum on the net, with few shills and many different opinions from all across the political spectrum. Thanks to the lovely ladies that run this place! Did I mention that I like flirting with the girls here?
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#2. To: tom007 (#1)
It is as open as you could want, a discussion of the Jewish problem is not censored.
#3. To: Paul Revere (#0)
What are your favorite things about Freedom4um
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#4. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#5. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#6. To: tom007 (#1)
It is as open as you could want, a discussion of the Jewish problem is not censored.
#7. To: Paul Revere, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#0)
#8. To: 4's (#4)
#9. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#10. To: Sam Houston (#4)
#11. To: Paul Revere (#0)
#12. To: bluedogtxn (#5)
What do I like about freedom4um?
#13. To: Paul Revere (#12)
I don't know who badeye is, and never posted at KOS, but I found that place annoying when I tried to read it. Too many places have rigid pecking orders, and pecking orders produce a lot of peckerheads.
#14. To: tom007, Paul Revere, Sam Houston, IndieTx, bluedogtxn, TheSilverFox, lodwick, ALL (#1)
As well as being susceptable to flattery.
#15. To: Paul Revere (#0)
What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
#16. To: LostBody (#11)
Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.
#17. To: randge (#15)
#18. To: Zipporah (#0)
What I like about Freedom4um
#19. To: Paul Revere, randge, christine (#17)
This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
#20. To: Paul Revere (#0)
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#21. To: bluedogtxn, Burkeman1 (#5)
Great moderators. Ditto from me for those 2 points in particular. As well, 4um offers the opportunity to hear a variety of well-reasoned viewpoints which I may not have considered on my own. Some posters provide a bit more of a left lean than would be my natural inclination and I appreciate that input greatly. And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here. And 4um also offers a place for meeting familiar soul mates due to an instant connection and though we're strangers it's nice to feel that on any given day or week one can easily relate to some comfy folks, no muss no fuss no hidden agendas, like putting on some old softened leather shoes after a long day on your feet. Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.
No overriding political agenda.
#22. To: Critter (#20)
you're so cute, Critter.
#23. To: scrapper2 (#21)
Sniff, that's okay, Scrapper. Me... me too. Sigh. Seriously, although a lot of hard-hitting stuff gets said, there isn't a lot of personal mean-ness here, either. Most posts start out with "You are wrong, and here's why", instead of "Fuckhead! You don't know your ass from a hole in the side of the mental hospital you drool in!" Basic civility without a lot of PC crap laded on top of it.
Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#24. To: scrapper2 (#21)
i love your comments, scrapper. :)
#25. To: christine, scrapper2 (#24)
Totally second that emotion. You've really got your intellectual shit together.
i love your comments, scrapper. :)
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#26. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Sorry - couldn't help myself.... I like smilies!
1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?
#27. To: Neil McIver (#10)
Hey, thanks. No wonder I couldn't find it. It still seems to be pretty deserted, though. I did a search and "palo verde" last posted there in May 2005. I think I must have found this site a year or so before then. I am guilty of flirting also. I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.
The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
#28. To: Sam Houston, Paul Revere (#27)
It is funny that former FR posters and former KOS and DU posters can come to the same site and wind up agreeing on a lot of stuff. I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.
I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#29. To: Paul Revere (#0)
The web is dead. Been dead for a long time. I like seeing some of the old names and faces who saw what might have been, back in the late 90s, when there was still reason for optimism. I've also met a couple of new folks (granted on LP but they migrated here) who, should they stick with this format, and this format is dying a slow death of attrition thanks to Blogs, will be great posters down the line.
#30. To: Paul Revere (#0)
The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning. The main thing is that here you can see beyond partisan politics and understand that people with very different views can agree on most things. And unite when there is a real threat to the country, as is the case with the Bush administration. I used to post mainly at Bartcop and later DU. I now mainly post here because I see thoughtful responses most of the time. Well, except for Flintlock. And no, Flintlock, I am not interested in your sister.
#31. To: bluedogtxn. all (#28)
smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.
I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.
#32. To: Sam Houston (#27)
um..there is absolutely no resemblance. ;)
I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny"
#33. To: scrapper2 (#21)
maudlin is okay sometimes, nice post
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#34. To: christine (#32)
There certainly um..there is absolutely no resemblance.
is was, until her fake BB persona was revealed...
#35. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver, robin, *Music Club* (#0) (Edited)
How bout me not blaming you for everything Alanis Morissette - Thank You :P
How bout me enjoying the moment for once
Thank you thank you ;)
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#36. To: Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, nolu_chan, roughrider (#0)
Just for the record, I'm perfectly content with my 15 post limit (keeps me from wasting too much time) and there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS and the censorship imposed by folks who bozo'd themselves to avoid facing the facts contained in my posts. ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC? Well that depends on which side of the issue you are on. There's been many a thread where it was me against THEM. But who's complaining. (wink) I like that aspect of 4um too! ROTFLOL! Except in my case? ROTFLOL!
bluedogtxn - No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill).
bluedogtxn - No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC).
SKYDRIFTER - [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]
Paul Revere - This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
scrapper2 - And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters?
Mekons4 - The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.
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Aren't you lucky. You get to receive one of the 15 posts I'm allowed each day.
#37. To: lodwick (#31)
Hasn't he? He's been a uniter, all right. Everyone is uniting against him.
smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#38. To: BeAChooser (#36)
You'd have been banned elsewhere. If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.
15 posts
#39. To: BeAChooser (#36)
ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL! Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.
... there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#40. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
Funny that you'd mention comic books...isn't that the source for much of his material?
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