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Title: What I like about Freedom4um
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Published: Apr 19, 2007
Author: Paul Revere
Post Date: 2007-04-19 15:19:48 by Paul Revere
Keywords: freedom4um, all
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Comments: 131
The purpose of this thread is to applaud our hosts for this place, and what we like about it. One of the things I do not like about modern USA culture is that people do not properly thank others. It's as if they believe they're giving up something to acknowledge that someone else did something nice. Running a site is a royal pain in the ass, and time consuming. It costs something to run, and someone has to pay that. So thank you to the owners, and here's what I like about Freedom4um: 1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons? 2. No threads calling for government to FIX whatever today's most visible problem is. What are your favorite things about Freedom4um and how it is run?
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#16. To: LostBody (#11)
Well, different strokes. I like the subtle, low key nature of the board. It's all about the posts, not the distractions.
This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
Zipporah*
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
AND AIPAC discussion and USS Liberty discussion and discussion of lots and lots of other subjects that seem to be taboo elsewhere. And while I occasionally find the trashing of taboos offensive, it smells suspiciously like freedom, so I'm all for it, even if I wince occasionally.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
I like flirting with the girls. I like the dedication of many of the 9/11 researchers here on 4um. I like flirting with the girls here. I like that 99.9% of the people here seem to be looking for honest answers to some serious questions about our times, and engage in some excellent brainstorming and debate. I like flirting with the girls here. I like all of the features Neil has built into this software. I think this is the one true free speech friendly political forum on the net, with few shills and many different opinions from all across the political spectrum. Thanks to the lovely ladies that run this place! Did I mention that I like flirting with the girls here?
Everything is fine SUPER. Is it possible to put more colors....... greyish early morning puts me mentally down ......... more colors = more happy. Still a very good site tho, keep it up Christine/Zippo.
#17. To: randge (#15)
#18. To: Zipporah (#0)
What I like about Freedom4um
#19. To: Paul Revere, randge, christine (#17)
This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
#20. To: Paul Revere (#0)
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#21. To: bluedogtxn, Burkeman1 (#5)
Great moderators. Ditto from me for those 2 points in particular. As well, 4um offers the opportunity to hear a variety of well-reasoned viewpoints which I may not have considered on my own. Some posters provide a bit more of a left lean than would be my natural inclination and I appreciate that input greatly. And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters? - don't laugh - I think that is an aspect of this 4um that speaks to freedom of speech here and what adds "color" to the discussions here - characters who may make me gnash my teeth in frustration at times, but nonetheless they are unique and opinionated and at times quite funny. They've been banned elsewhere but not here. And 4um also offers a place for meeting familiar soul mates due to an instant connection and though we're strangers it's nice to feel that on any given day or week one can easily relate to some comfy folks, no muss no fuss no hidden agendas, like putting on some old softened leather shoes after a long day on your feet. Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.
No overriding political agenda.
#22. To: Critter (#20)
you're so cute, Critter.
#23. To: scrapper2 (#21)
Sniff, that's okay, Scrapper. Me... me too. Sigh. Seriously, although a lot of hard-hitting stuff gets said, there isn't a lot of personal mean-ness here, either. Most posts start out with "You are wrong, and here's why", instead of "Fuckhead! You don't know your ass from a hole in the side of the mental hospital you drool in!" Basic civility without a lot of PC crap laded on top of it.
Ooops - I think I'm slipping into maudlin mode.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#24. To: scrapper2 (#21)
i love your comments, scrapper. :)
#25. To: christine, scrapper2 (#24)
Totally second that emotion. You've really got your intellectual shit together.
i love your comments, scrapper. :)
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#26. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Sorry - couldn't help myself.... I like smilies!
1. No smilies!! I hate those things. I can barely stand to read DU because there are so many people who use them. Why not crayons?
#27. To: Neil McIver (#10)
Hey, thanks. No wonder I couldn't find it. It still seems to be pretty deserted, though. I did a search and "palo verde" last posted there in May 2005. I think I must have found this site a year or so before then. I am guilty of flirting also. I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.
The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
#28. To: Sam Houston, Paul Revere (#27)
It is funny that former FR posters and former KOS and DU posters can come to the same site and wind up agreeing on a lot of stuff. I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.
I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny" who used to be famous on FR. I apologize profusely for ever thinking that.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#29. To: Paul Revere (#0)
The web is dead. Been dead for a long time. I like seeing some of the old names and faces who saw what might have been, back in the late 90s, when there was still reason for optimism. I've also met a couple of new folks (granted on LP but they migrated here) who, should they stick with this format, and this format is dying a slow death of attrition thanks to Blogs, will be great posters down the line.
#30. To: Paul Revere (#0)
The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning. The main thing is that here you can see beyond partisan politics and understand that people with very different views can agree on most things. And unite when there is a real threat to the country, as is the case with the Bush administration. I used to post mainly at Bartcop and later DU. I now mainly post here because I see thoughtful responses most of the time. Well, except for Flintlock. And no, Flintlock, I am not interested in your sister.
#31. To: bluedogtxn. all (#28)
smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.
I think there's a lot more common ground in this country than the people who profit from our divisiveness want me to think.
#32. To: Sam Houston (#27)
um..there is absolutely no resemblance. ;)
I first thought christine was "The Artist Formerly Known as Snow Bunny"
#33. To: scrapper2 (#21)
maudlin is okay sometimes, nice post
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#34. To: christine (#32)
There certainly um..there is absolutely no resemblance.
is was, until her fake BB persona was revealed...
#35. To: Zipporah, christine, Neil McIver, robin, *Music Club* (#0) (Edited)
How bout me not blaming you for everything Alanis Morissette - Thank You :P
How bout me enjoying the moment for once
Thank you thank you ;)
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#36. To: Paul Revere, Mekons4, scrapper2, SKYDRIFTER, bluedogtxn, Kamala, nolu_chan, roughrider (#0)
Just for the record, I'm perfectly content with my 15 post limit (keeps me from wasting too much time) and there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS and the censorship imposed by folks who bozo'd themselves to avoid facing the facts contained in my posts. ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. In fact, I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC? Well that depends on which side of the issue you are on. There's been many a thread where it was me against THEM. But who's complaining. (wink) I like that aspect of 4um too! ROTFLOL! Except in my case? ROTFLOL!
bluedogtxn - No posting limits (unless you are a known trash talking shill).
bluedogtxn - No censorship (unless you go completely insane like Leveller did, or start out completely insane like BAC).
SKYDRIFTER - [Speaking of turkeys, BAC is conspicuous by his absence, today. More disinformation school, I suspect. If Bush attacks Iran, we can be certain.]
Paul Revere - This is the only forum I've seen that allows 9-11 discussion without a beatdown as part of it.
scrapper2 - And 4um offers "characters" a place to post their opinions - 4um as the last refuge for characters?
Mekons4 - The main thing is that people with very different political views can talk rationally without being called commie or nazi. When someone goes beyond the pale, the posters tend to quash it, rather than calling for banning.
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Aren't you lucky. You get to receive one of the 15 posts I'm allowed each day.
#37. To: lodwick (#31)
Hasn't he? He's been a uniter, all right. Everyone is uniting against him.
smirkco has done more to bring thinking people of all stripes together than anything I've ever seen.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#38. To: BeAChooser (#36)
You'd have been banned elsewhere. If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.
15 posts
#39. To: BeAChooser (#36)
ROTFLOL! No, SKYDRIFTER, I'm still around. ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL! Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.
... there has been no censorship of my posts other than my VOLUNTEERING not to call folks KOOKS
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#40. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
Funny that you'd mention comic books...isn't that the source for much of his material?
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#41. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.
#42. To: christine (#41)
Well, if he ever gets banned and comes back with another identity, it won't be hard to figure out who he is! Tata, chris. Off for home.
i've asked him to quit and told him he comes across as maniacal and deranged. obviously he is cuz he can't stop it.
It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.
#43. To: Mekons4 (#38)
The real news is on the blogs/forums and late night comedy shows.
If we want Bush talking points, we can read the papers.
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
#44. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#35)
I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette. Have you seen her singing Fergie's song? It's a classic, and is funny, sharp, sexy, and musically pleasing.
#45. To: All (#44) (Edited)
Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump
#46. To: bluedogtxn (#39)
Could you volunteer not to type "ROTFLOL" all the damn time? I mean, aside from sounding like the arch villain monologueing in a 1950s Marvel comic book, it is the second most annoying habit you have.
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#47. To: Paul Revere (#44)
I like her music, and I also like her "Lady Godiva" act in the "Thank You" video. :P
I just LOVE Alaniss Morrisette.
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#48. To: robin, All (#43) (Edited)
1 thru 43 (except 36) Actually ooser shouldn't be restricted to reply. Stil waiting to see aircraft parts at Shanksville.
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
#49. To: BeAChooser (#36)
There comes a point when we realize that trying to talk sense to you is fruitless. It reminds me of King Arthur fighting the black knight in the Holy Grail. BeAChooser: None shall pass.did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: None shall pass.
9/11 Truther: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir Knight, but I must cross this bridge.
BeAChooser: Then you shall die.
9/11 Truther: I command you, as King of the Britons, to stand aside!
BeAChooser: I move for no man.
9/11 Truther: So be it!
9/11 Truther and BeAChooser: Aaah!, hiyaah!, etc.
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's left arm off]
9/11 Truther: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BeAChooser: 'Tis but a scratch.
9/11 Truther: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BeAChooser: No, it isn't.
9/11 Truther: Well, what's that, then?
BeAChooser: I've had worse.
9/11 Truther: You liar!
BeAChooser: Come on, you pansy!
[clang] Huyah! [clang] Hiyaah! [clang] Aaaaaaaah!
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right arm off]
9/11 Truther: Victory is mine!
[kneeling]
We thank Thee Lord, that in Thy mer--
BeAChooser: Hah! [kick] Come on, then.
9/11 Truther: What?
BeAChooser: Have at you! [kick]
9/11 Truther: Eh. You are indeed brave, Sir Knight, but the fight is mine.
BeAChooser: Oh, had enough, eh?
9/11 Truther: Look, you stupid bastard. You've got no arms left.
BeAChooser: Yes, I have.
9/11 Truther: Look!
BeAChooser: Just a flesh wound. [kick]
9/11 Truther: Look, stop that.
BeAChooser: Chicken! [kick] Chickennn!
9/11 Truther: Look, I'll have your leg. [kick] Right! [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's right leg off]
BeAChooser: Right. I'll do you for that!
9/11 Truther: You'll what?
BeAChooser: Come here!
9/11 Truther: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BeAChooser: I'm invincible!
9/11 Truther: You're a looney.
BeAChooser: The BeAChooser always triumphs! Have at you! Come on, then. [whop]
[9/11 Truther chops the BeAChooser's last leg off]
BeAChooser: Oh? All right, we'll call it a draw.
9/11 Truther: Come, Patsy.
BeAChooser: Oh. Oh, I see. Running away, eh? You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!
A new truth movement friendly digg type site: Zlonk it!
#50. To: BeAChooser, ROTFLOL, christine, ALL, skydrifter, critter, randge (#36) (Edited)
BAC, you're a legend in your own mind.
"ROTFLOL! I just got done thoroughly demolishing a claim by Kamala about FDS and did you notice that no one has even attempted a rational response to my destruction of nolu_chan's and roughrider's posts yesterday regarding the WTC?
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
In a CorporoFascist capitalist society, there is no money in peace, freedom, or a healthy population, and therefore, no incentive to achieve these.
- - IndieTX
"Peace? There's no money in peace! What we need is a war!"
--Three Stooges
#51. To: Paul Revere (#0)
I agree that the 'no smileys' is a big plus. Another plus is the 'no breaking news' section. Sites like LP have people arguing a lot about what is and what is not 'breaking news' instead of having some more interesting discussions. I also like that there is not explicit prohibition of 'racism' or 'anti-semitism'. People are what they are and they think what they think. If a site is to tolerate those who pray that 'we' nuke various 'Mooslum' countries then there's nothing wrong with a little racism or anti-semitism. I'm a confessed anti-Bulgarian and I'd feel embarrassed to see that no one cares about my Bulgarian bashing while those who warn us about various Jews conspiracies are supressed. Another thing that I like is the 'ignore' feature. I'm glad it's there even though the level of discussion here is civilized enough not to make me ignore anyone. So, I too thank the owner for keeping this good site alive.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#52. To: Paul Revere (#45)
Excellent! A diva with a sense of humor: rara avis in terris ;P
Here is that Alaniss Morrisette cover of Fergie's tune My Hump
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
#53. To: Paul Revere (#0)
Oh, there is one thing that I don't like. It is allowing the members to include large, psychedelic graphics as part of their signature. This can be very distracting and extremely annoying when someone makes 15 posts on a thread and drops these redundant nonsense to no one's benefit or pleasure. There was someone at FR, I believe, who was including the head of a feline with huge canines in all of his posts. Even though his graphics were not animated, it was quite pathetic and gratuitous. Also, adding a 10-line SIG to a 2-word post... not good.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#54. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#53)
I hate signatures. Is there a way to opt out of seeing them? It's not the content, it's the repetition. But to each his own. I have high tolerance for those kind of annoyances. It's the prohibitions on free thought and expression that trouble me at most message boards. I'm not crazy about puking smilies, either. At DU they have a bunch of people that use that smilie to express their displeasure. I call them cyber bulimics.
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