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National News See other National News Articles Title: Gonzales Faces Anger From Both Sides on Senate Panel WASHINGTON, April 19 Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales encountered anger and skepticism from senators today as he insisted that he had nothing to hide in the dismissals of eight United States attorneys, an episode that has cast a shadow on the Justice Department and brought calls for his resignation. I am here today to do my part to ensure that all facts about this matter are brought to light, he told the Senate Judiciary Committee this morning, noting that the panels inquiry into the dismissals had already yielded thousands of pages of internal departmental communications and hours of interviews with department officials. These are not the actions of someone with something to hide, Mr. Gonzales said in his opening remarks. His reception from Democrats and Republicans alike, at a hearing that was widely seen as a make-or-break event, did not seem to augur well for Mr. Gonzales. But at the end of the day, the White House issued a statement that President Bush thought Mr. Gonzaless testimony had gone well, and that he had full confidence in the attorney general. It was no surprise that Democrats were generally critical of him, but so were several Republicans. Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania questioned Mr. Gonzaless honesty as well as his competence, while Senator John Cornyn of Texas said the handling of the dismissals had been deplorable. And Senator Tom Coburn, a conservative Republican from Oklahoma, said Mr. Gonzales should suffer the consequences of the bungled dismissals and resign. Mr. Gonzales has been battling amid accusations that he has been less than forthcoming, at best, about his role in the firing of the federal prosecutors. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said the attorney general had a tremendous credibility problem. Senator Patrick J. Leahy, the Vermont Democrat who heads the Judiciary Committee, said the Justice Department is experiencing a crisis of leadership perhaps unrivaled during its 137-year history. The Department of Justice should never be reduced to another political arm of the White House this White House or any White House, Mr. Leahy said. The Department of Justice must be worthy of its name. Mr. Leahy made it clear that he was not persuaded by the repeated assertions from President Bush and his allies that the dismissals of the United States attorneys, who are political appointees and serve at the pleasure of the president, were above board. Indeed, Mr. Leahy said, the apparent reason for these terminations had a lot more to do with politics than performance. Democrats have questioned whether at least some of the eight prosecutors were fired because they were being too aggressive in investigating possible crimes linked to Republicans, or not aggressive enough in going after Democrats, or both. I did not do that, the grim-faced attorney general told the senators. I would never do that, nor do I believe that anyone else in the department advocated the removal of a U.S. attorney for such a purpose. But Mr. Leahy pressed Mr. Gonzales on conversations he had with Karl Rove, President Bushs chief political adviser, about removing David C. Iglesias, the United States attorney in New Mexico. So, when was David Iglesias added to the list of U.S. attorneys to be replaced? Mr. Leahy asked. When Mr. Gonzales said he did not remember, although he thought Mr. Iglesias was slated for removal between Oct. 17 and Dec. 15, Mr. Leahy responded: He was added either before or after the elections, but you dont know when. Is that what youre saying? Mr. Gonzales insisted that he did not recall the timing. So Mr. Leahy asked why Mr. Iglesias was let go, since Mr. Gonzales himself had earlier expressed confidence in him: When and why did he lose your confidence? Mr. Gonzales said in reply that Senator Pete V. Domenici, Republican of New Mexico, had expressed concerns about Mr. Iglesias. He called me and said something to the effect that Mr. Iglesias was in over his head, Mr. Gonzales said, adding that the senator was concerned that Mr. Iglesias was not focusing enough on public corruption cases. The circumstances surrounding Mr. Iglesiass firing have aroused particular interest, since Mr. Domenici is known to have queried Mr. Iglesias about the prosecutors refusal to pursue a possible voter-fraud case. In insisting that politics has played no part in the departments decisions about whom to prosecute and when, Mr. Gonzales noted that Representative Bob Ney, an Ohio Republican linked to a lobbying scandal, pleaded guilty to federal corruption charges six weeks before last Novembers elections. We could have taken the plea after the election, and Im sure when we took that plea, there were some Republicans around the country probably scratching their head, wondering, what in the world are they doing? Mr. Gonzales said. Well, what were doing is doing whats best for the case. Thats what we do. We dont let politics play a role partisan politics play a role in the decisions we make in cases. Another dismissal in the spotlight is that of Carol C. Lam, who was the United States attorney in San Diego and who successfully prosecuted former Representative Randy Cunningham, a Republican, on corruption charges. Still another high-profile dismissal was that of H.E. Cummins III in Arkansas, removed to make way for J. Timothy Griffin, a protégé of Mr. Rove. Mr. Gonzales conceded that his accounts of the firings, and his role in them, had been marked by imprecision and misstatements. But his expression of contrition did not seem to help him this morning. Mr. Leahy and Mr. Specter, the panels ranking Republican, had already recalled inconsistencies in Mr. Gonzaless recollections in their opening remarks, especially the fact that Mr. Gonzaless former chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson, testified that Mr. Gonzales was incorrect in his earlier declarations that he was not involved in discussions about letting the prosecutors go. Id like you to win this debate, Mr. Specter told Mr. Gonzales. But youre going to have to win it. Mr. Specter wondered aloud whether Mr. Gonzales had been candid more bluntly, truthful in his earlier assertions that he was not involved in the dismissals, or at least not deeply involved. Were you prepared for the press conference where you said there werent any discussions involving you? Mr. Specter said, alluding to the attorney generals March 13 news conference at the Justice Department. Senator, Ive already said that I misspoke, Mr. Gonzales said. It was my mistake. That did not satisfy Mr. Specter at all. I dont think youre going to win a debate about your preparation, frankly, he said. Lets get to the facts. Shortly thereafter, Mr. Specter asked Mr. Gonzales if he thought it was a fair, honest characterization to say that you had only a limited involvement in the process? Senator, I dont want to quarrel with you, Mr. Gonzales replied. I dont want you to, either, Mr. Specter said. I just want you to answer the question. When Mr. Gonzales insisted that his involvement in the firings had been limited, Mr. Specter told him that his description of his role was significantly, if not totally, at variance with the facts. It was clear that, for at least some members of the committee, there was no longer a debate about whether Mr. Gonzales should stay. It cannot make anyone happy to have to question the credibility and competence of the nations chief law enforcement officer, said Senator Charles E. Schumer, a New York Democrat and one of Mr. Gonzaless harshest critics. This is, however, a predicament strictly of the attorney generals own making. The circumstantial evidence is substantial and growing, Mr. Schumer said, alluding to allegations of political interference with prosecutions, and the burden is on the attorney general to refute it. The attorney general said each of the eight fired prosecutors is a fine lawyer and dedicated professional, and that the dismissals should have been handled more gracefully. Mr. Gonzales got a friendly reception from Senator Jeff Sessions, Republican of Alabama and a former United States attorney, who urged Mr. Gonzales to be honest and direct and predicted that the attorney generals basic goodness will show through. But, perhaps ominously for Mr. Gonzales, even Mr. Sessions said he thought Mr. Gonzales had been less than candid about his part in the firings, and that the entire affair had hurt the Justice Department. It has raised questions that I wish had not been raised, because when United States attorneys go into court, they have to appear before juries, and those juries have to believe that theyre there because of the merit of the case, and that they have personal integrity, Mr. Sessions said. So this matters taken on a bit of life of its own, it seems, he added. Your ability to lead the Department of Justice is in question. I wish that werent so, but I think it certainly is. President Bush has continued to voice support for Mr. Gonzales, his old friend from Texas, but has said that Mr. Gonzales must re-establish faith in his leadership. Todays hearing was widely regarded as a make-or-break event for him. I have learned important lessons from this experience, which will guide me in my important responsibilities, Mr. Gonzales said. I believe that Americans focus less on whether someone makes a mistake than on what he or she does to set things right.
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Somehow, the Times missed the actual quote. "You're doing a heckuva job, Gonzo." The surest sign of political death is for Bush to offer his support. Sorta like the Harvard Lampoon's "Bored of the Rings," where the doomed prince, with vultures circling above, a black X on his forehead, puts a farthing into a fortune machine. "Five-seven's your height 180 your weight You cash in your chips On page 88."
Bush went on to state, "And besides that, I want y'all to know that we are winning in Iraq, I only drink Diet Coke these days, and I love my wife Laura." :P
War and Slavery go together, just as Peace and Freedom do.
I dont want you to, either, Mr. Specter said. I just want you to answer the question. good one
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either but right through the human heart." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
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