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Title: Government Heard 9/11 Plans from Hijackers' Own Mouths
Source: http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/04/government-hear
URL Source: http://georgewashington.blogspot.co ... ment-heard-911-plans-from.html
Published: Apr 20, 2007
Author: GW
Post Date: 2007-04-20 06:52:24 by Kamala
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Thursday, April 19, 2007

Government Heard 9/11 Plans from Hijackers' Own Mouths

Many essays have discussed the U.S. government's foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. Indeed, the number of facts pointing towards likely foreknowledge are so numerous that it is easy to get lost in the details.

This essay focuses solely on the proof that American and allied intelligence services actually heard the hijackers discuss and make their plans before 9/11.

Initially, an FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000.

And a CIA agent allegedly met with Bin Laden in an American hospital in July 2001

Furthermore, Israel tracked the hijackers' every move prior to the attacks, and sent agents to film the attack on the World Trade Centers.

Moreover, the intelligence services of the French and other governments had infiltrated the highest levels of Al-Qaeda's camps, and actually listened to the hijackers' debates about which airlines' planes should be hijacked, and allied intelligence services also intercepted phone conversations between Al-Qaeda members regarding the attacks.

And the National Security Agency and the FBI were each independently listening in on the phone calls between the supposed mastermind of the attacks and the lead hijacker. Indeed, the FBI built its own antenna in Madagascar specifically to listen in on the mastermind's phone calls. The day before 9/11, the mastermind told the lead hijacker "tomorrow is zero hour" and gave final approval for the attacks. The NSA intercepted the message that day and the FBI was likely also monitoring the mastermind's phone calls.

Shortly before 9/11, the NSA also intercepted multiple phone calls to the United States from Bin Laden's chief of operations.

The CIA and the NSA had been intercepting phone calls by the hijackers for years.

Indeed, two days before 9/11, Osama Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her "In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.” US officials later told CNN that “in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded." Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.

Forget complicated arguments about warnings. The government actually heard the plans for 9/11 from the hijackers' own mouths.

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#1. To: Kamala (#0)

The reason there are no comments here is because this article doesn't fit into the whackos' conspiracy fantasies about remote-controlled airplanes, mini-nukes in the WTC and 2000 people involved in an impossibly complex conspiracy.

"Be convinced that to be happy means to be free and that to be free means to be brave. Therefore do not take lightly the perils of war." -- Thucydides

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-04-20   8:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Kamala (#0)

Indeed, two days before 9/11, Osama Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her "In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.”

Indeed. lol.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-04-20   8:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

Have you ever explained to the forum your theory of the 911 Dancing Jews?

Dempsy  posted on  2007-04-20   8:30:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Dempsy, YertleTurtle (#3)

Indeed, two days before 9/11, Osama Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her "In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.”

Indeed, two days before 9/11, Osama Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her "In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.”

And, Oh yeah Mom, I almost forgot to tell ya, I'm gonna have NORAD stand down too !

Yertle is attempting to overthrow BAC as resident shill.

14th Amendment / Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. [You have the right to remain silent, shut up and pay your taxes peasants ... hehehehehe].

noone222  posted on  2007-04-20   8:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: noone222, Coral Snake (#4)

I consider YT a counter weight to Coral Snake who clearly spends too much time soaking up gamma rays from the planet Zeon.

Dempsy  posted on  2007-04-20   8:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

The reason there are no comments here is because this article doesn't fit into the whackos' conspiracy fantasies about remote-controlled airplanes, mini-nukes in the WTC and 2000 people involved in an impossibly complex conspiracy.

You are among the 16% who believe the official story. 84% of Americans do not share your opinion. It isn't necessary to adopt a theory to explore it, and that is what intelligent, open minded people do. Constipated minds like yours are locked up.

Thanks for giving us the White House position. How's life since you left there, Mr. McClellan?

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   9:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dempsy (#3)

Have you ever explained to the forum your theory of the 911 Dancing Jews?

The Dancing Mossad Agents who were held two months then released.

MOSSAD had about 100 agents in the US tracking the "hijackers."

I believe Osama was in on the planning of some attacks on the US, but it is our government which allowed it to happen, which did not stop it, and which made it happen much more successfully and much more dramatically than it would have.

A plan for attacks may have been contemplated by Osama, and put into action, but the spooks stole the operation, took over it, and made it happen as they wanted it to happen. He may have had an idea, and an action plan, but Mossad, the shadow government, and the Neocons in government made it happen, and certainly planted the explosives that took down the WTC.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   9:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#4)

Yertle is attempting to overthrow BAC as resident shill.

I thought they were the same guy! Conservative, queer, and Bush shill.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   9:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

The reason there are no comments here is because this article doesn't fit into the whackos' conspiracy fantasies about remote-controlled airplanes, mini-nukes in the WTC and 2000 people involved in an impossibly complex conspiracy

Exactly. There is a govt connection to the 9/11 conspiracy but it does not involve the demolition teams, remote controlled planes, landlord Silverstien operating a commando team to knock out WTC 7, etc.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   9:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Paul Revere, YT (#7)

I believe Osama was in on the planning of some attacks on the US, but it is our government which allowed it to happen,

That's my position - subject to change as new information is received. YT won't address the Israeli question, nor will religious people who hold Jews as Chosen people. It runs counter to their belief system, a system they refuse to modify despite new and mounting evidence.

Dempsy  posted on  2007-04-20   9:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Destro (#9)

Please explain the role of the Dancing Jews, and the subsequent arrest of numerous Israelis immediately post 911.

Dempsy  posted on  2007-04-20   9:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Dempsy (#10)

If one looks at the actions and non actions of the Bush administration between Jan 20 and Sept 10 of 2001, it is clear they knew what was coming and went to great lengths to keep decent, honest FBI and counterterrorism agents from stopping the attacks.

The operation probably originated with the spooks, who got it sold to Osama.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   9:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Paul Revere, Dempsy, noone222, YertleTurtle (#7)

I believe Osama was in on the planning of some attacks on the US, but it is our government which allowed it to happen, which did not stop it, and which made it happen much more successfully and much more dramatically than it would have.

Paul is somewhat correct.

The Israelis were here to monitor the 9/11 cell - all intel agencies in the world knew an attack was coming. The Russians warned us so did the Germans and so did the Serbs!!!

The dirty secret of 9/11 is that the USA was running a massive training operation for jihadis all over the world - the CIA's own jihad armies. They fought in Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya, Central Asia and everywhere!

Why was the USA and the UK funding these groups and allowing freedom to organize and recruit? Because by exporting war along pipeline corridors you created instability thus giving the USA and NATO a pretext to send in forces and turn those nations into client states under American control.

Now was 9/11 a case of 1) the CIA's pet terrorist cell turning rogue and double agent and attacking America to the surprise of the CIA intel types? Or was it a case that 2) the CIA intel types knew these guys were double agents and pulled back and gave them room to do their deeds - leaving our defenses off on purpose so we can take a hit (which is what we are said to have done before Pearl Harbor).

Many people misunderstand the Pear Harbor remark by the PNAC think tank. Pearl Harbor was not planned by the USA in partnership with the Japanese. Pearl Harbor was a case of the USA learning about the planned attack and not doing anything to stop it or prepare for the hit.

That is the real clue. So I will go with my theory number 2.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   9:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Paul Revere, YertleTurtle (#6)

You are among the 16% who believe the official story.

So the "official story" now is that the government knew it was coming and didn't do anything about it in order to capitalize on it?

OK, so now that we have that out of the way, are we going to dump all the POS bastards in the next election??? I'm not gonna risk anything on that bet...

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2007-04-20   10:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Axenolith (#14)

So the "official story" now is that the government knew it was coming and didn't do anything about it in order to capitalize on it?

I"m not sure why you drew that conclusion.

The official story is well known, and it's not what you said.

Only 16% believe that lame, official story. The shills like to pretend they are the dominant view, but they're not. They're a small minority.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-20   10:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Destro (#13)

Many people misunderstand the Pear Harbor remark by the PNAC think tank. Pearl Harbor was not planned by the USA in partnership with the Japanese. Pearl Harbor was a case of the USA learning about the planned attack and not doing anything to stop it or prepare for the hit.

Well we did sell Japan the steel they needed to conduct the assault, but on to your larger point. Both PH and 911 (add the Gulf of Tonkin too) were conspiracies used to engage this nation in global war. YT chooses to believe in happenstance, and I suppose other fairy tails.

Dempsy  posted on  2007-04-20   10:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: YertleTurtle, Kamala, christine, BeAChooser, aristeides, all (#1)

The reason there are no comments here is because this article doesn't fit into the whackos' conspiracy fantasies about remote-controlled airplanes, mini-nukes in the WTC and 2000 people involved in an impossibly complex conspiracy

I've always thought that Osama ordering the attacks made the most sense. That doesn't mean the attacks weren't a CIA sponsored event. Osama was an asset of the CIA and his organization was receiving CIA funds right up to the spring of 2001. From what I understand, AQ affiliated outfits like the MEK are recieving CIA funding again. Apparently the CIA is quick to forgive a little deal like the Twin Towers getting knocked down. And nevermind the fact that OBL hasn't been caught and looks like dying of old age is his doom. I don't think anyone is trying too hard, frankly.

Building 7 sure bothers me, though. That sure looked like a controlled demolition to me. And the owner of the WTC complex having double indemnity insurance coverage in the event of 2 attacks? Squares with the Mossad knowing everything that was about to happen, letting him know, and him planting explosives during the evacuation drill the week before. I mean, if the buildings are gonna be hit by planes anyway, why not make a buck or two?

Certainly the attack was nothing but a win-win for Israel and Mossad. Why would they tell the US about it coming? After the attacks the Afghan opium fields were opened up, so the CIA comes out a winner. The US military walks out of Saudi Arabia and into Iraq, so Osama Bin Ladin comes out a winner. The oil companies make out like bandits, what with higher prices and the return of the Iraqi oil concession. Halliburton comes out a winner. The military industrial guys come out winners.

The people being investigated whose files were in WTC7 come out winners in a big way.

Who loses in a LIHOP or MIHOP scenario? Seriously, didn't everyone who could have participated and made it happen come out a winner? The long run grind has caught up with some of them, but certainly only the CIA guys running OBL and the Mossad guys keeping tabs need have been aware of the plot to MIHOP it.

These are the same cats who shot JFK, remember? The same guys who are currently running dope out of South America and most likely running dope out of Afghanistan now, too. The same guys who lost 2 BILLION dollars in reconstruction funds. The same guys who re-read Machiavelli every year.

No complex conspiracy is required here, Yertle. No more than a couple dozen CIA, MOSSAD, and MIC guys needed to be in on it. A couple dozen guys can't keep something like this secret you think? That's pretty odd. Because the government's official version of what happened involved at least 21 guys keeping this secret, didn't it? OBL and the 20 hijackers and whoever trained them and whoever supplied them with money and whoever gave them transportation, right?

So a bunch of crazy Muslims can keep a secret but a couple dozen trained CIA dudes can't?

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   10:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Destro, Paul Revere, Dempsy, noone222, YertleTurtle (#13)

The Israelis were here to monitor the 9/11 cell - all intel agencies in the world knew an attack was coming. The Russians warned us so did the Germans and so did the Serbs!!!

The dirty secret of 9/11 is that the USA was running a massive training operation for jihadis all over the world - the CIA's own jihad armies. They fought in Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya, Central Asia and everywhere!

Why was the USA and the UK funding these groups and allowing freedom to organize and recruit? Because by exporting war along pipeline corridors you created instability thus giving the USA and NATO a pretext to send in forces and turn those nations into client states under American control.

Now was 9/11 a case of 1) the CIA's pet terrorist cell turning rogue and double agent and attacking America to the surprise of the CIA intel types? Or was it a case that 2) the CIA intel types knew these guys were double agents and pulled back and gave them room to do their deeds - leaving our defenses off on purpose so we can take a hit (which is what we are said to have done before Pearl Harbor).

So, let me get this straight, a huge shitload of all the "you're a shill planted by the government or some special interest group or were part of the conspiracy" is over disagreement on how the government went about facilitating or actually conducting 9-11 to screw us over or facilitate unconstitutional national objectives!?!?

WTF?, over. Does anybody but me see something wrong with this picture??? We're WAY past how the hell it happened. It's stale, the sides are drawn and set in stone and hashing it out over and over serves only one entities purpose (can you guess whose?). The one thing we've apparently gotten out of it is that everbody seems to agree that most of government is filled with worthless bags of shit. Ya' think we might go forward figuring out how to get something done about that?

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2007-04-20   10:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Destro (#13)

Now was 9/11 a case of 1) the CIA's pet terrorist cell turning rogue and double agent and attacking America to the surprise of the CIA intel types? Or was it a case that 2) the CIA intel types knew these guys were double agents and pulled back and gave them room to do their deeds - leaving our defenses off on purpose so we can take a hit (which is what we are said to have done before Pearl Harbor).

You left out the third possibility, which is that OBL never stopped being a CIA asset and did what they encouraged, directed and told him to do. Which was to recruit 20 crazy Saudis to fly some buildings into the Twin Towers and various other targets around Washington, DC.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   10:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Axenolith, Kamala, all (#18)

The one thing we've apparently gotten out of it is that everbody seems to agree that most of government is filled with worthless bags of shit. Ya' think we might go forward figuring out how to get something done about that?

Now there is a pertinent question.

Thanks, Axenolith.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-20   10:44:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Paul Revere (#15)

I"m not sure why you drew that conclusion.

The official story is well known, and it's not what you said.

I didn't "say" anything with regard to the story. Yert commented on the posted article which clearly implicates government complicity.

You carped at him essentially because that isn't the "bombs were also set off" or whatever the hell the intracacies are theory.

My bitch is that each are equally indictive of corrupt and evil people running the show. There's nothing else to be gained in picking nits over the mechanism, it's moot. The conclusion from either line, regardless of which is totally right, is that the government does NOT have its citizens best interests at heart.

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2007-04-20   10:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Axenolith (#18)

We're WAY past how the hell it happened

everbody seems to agree that most of government is filled with worthless bags of shit. Ya' think we might go forward figuring out how to get something done about that?

I don't know about everyboy agreeing. Hell, I overhead some ladies last week discussin Anna Nicole and her mother like they were family. WTF.

Anyway, if you got a plan, I'm all ears.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma K. Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-04-20   10:56:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dempsy (#16)

Well we did sell Japan the steel they needed to conduct the assault, but on to your larger point.

That is a stupid point. Japan hit us because we cut off supplies of steel to them. Cutting off trade is an act of war.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   11:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Axenolith, Paul Revere, Dempsy, noone222, YertleTurtle (#18)

So, let me get this straight, a huge shitload of all the "you're a shill planted by the government or some special interest group or were part of the conspiracy" is over disagreement on how the government went about facilitating or actually conducting 9-11 to screw us over or facilitate unconstitutional national objectives!?!

Yea, because I disregard the demolition theory and the rest of the 'loose change' mechanics of how the buildings fell.

You must understand I go back on watching these jihadis when the uS govt was using them in the Balkans. So when I find out that Muslims jihadis who fought for the CIA armies in the Balkans and Chechnya are in the USA training and they carried out 9/11.

Also the Indian intel services pretty much answered 9/11 - the Indians also were monitoring all these American backed jihadis because of their fight with Pakistan - these American jihadis were attacking Indian targets as well as Russian and Serb and Chinese ones.

You can read about 9/11 via B.Raman online - who he is is explained when you look him up.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   11:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: YertleTurtle (#1)

And a CIA agent allegedly met with Bin Laden in an American hospital in July 2001

Furthermore, Israel tracked the hijackers' every move prior to the attacks, and sent agents to film the attack on the World Trade Centers.

Moreover, the intelligence services of the French and other governments had infiltrated the highest levels of Al-Qaeda's camps, and actually listened to the hijackers' debates about which airlines' planes should be hijacked, and allied intelligence services also intercepted phone conversations between Al-Qaeda members regarding the attacks.

Is this what they are saying on FR?

Sure, there was a trail of "evidence" in order to pin the psyops on OBL and Atta. Big surprise. Daniel Hopsicker's articles on this have been posted on this 4um over a year ago.

There must be a cover story, or even stories.

The truth is out there, but none of it is coming from the Bush regime.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

robin  posted on  2007-04-20   11:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bluedogtxn (#19)

You left out the third possibility, which is that OBL never stopped being a CIA asset and did what they encouraged, directed and told him to do. Which was to recruit 20 crazy Saudis to fly some buildings into the Twin Towers and various other targets around Washington, DC.

I think its more realistic to think he was once a CIA asset and looked at the CIA playbook and decided to make it his own. Why fight all these wars along pipeline routes for the USA when we can take over the training and distribution base (which is all al-Qaeda means in Arabic) and do this for ourselves.

That is why you saw in some places around the world al-Qaeda cooperation with the USA and other places conflict.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   11:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: angle (#22)

Anyway, if you got a plan, I'm all ears.

Well, let me get the stick and find that horizontal horse :-)

The plan has to be like rot. Slow, and inexorable, just like we've gotten it since ~ the 1850-80 period.

People with core Constitutional beliefs need to work their way into local offices, and/or support those striving for it.

Folks need to wean themselves from debt and encourage others to do so. 1%, 5%, 10% per year. That can have a huge impact overall, the system feeds on debt creation and getting out from under it is a primary means of changing things. If one is disciplined, arbitrage your credit down by switching between ultra low interest balance transfer offers and use the saved difference on principle. When the cards are done, hit the cars, when the cars are done, work on the house, or start buying hard assets (which can range from precious and base metals to items like, liquor, land, etc... Hell, if you're going to save, save in something like nickels even, at this point the metal content values them at $3.56/roll.

Review your taxes. Can you itemize? Are you missing anything you're due? There's a phone tax credit for EVERYONE who had a packaged long distance carrier since February of 2003. Rather than nit pick the rebate, filers are give the option of taking a straight credit of 30, 40 or 60 dollars or of itemizing it with their old bills. Make sure the politicians don't keep that!

Own stock in a company? Disagree with their policies? VOTE THE SHARES! Encourage others to do so to. Call. Bitch! If they're close, attend the meetings.

Make it a point to encourage EVERYBODY to avoid voting for ANY politician with "secret society" membership or ties. Remember how much air and sweat everyone on both sides wasted in 2004 over 2 freakin' Skull and Bones members??? Does anyone truly think we'd have been better off with the other one? The next time you and a political opposite are squaring off over your parties candidates who both happen to belong to [insert organization whose members cavort naked around bonfires or have other bizarre rites and hate America here], try to pick a third party to BOTH vote for, you're gonna negate your votes anyway, so why not throw a bone to the Libertarians, or Constitutionalists, or Independants, etc...

Shoot? Got a friend who doesn't? Invite them to a range sometime. Give them a rundown on the safety and handling of your particular iron of choice, or if your not comfortable with that try to hook them up with a good instructor. Grow the pro side!

Grow something, even if it's in a box. You get experience, personal satisfaction and a lead on to when you have more space.

Fix something, or try, if it's broken and you'd replace it anyway, it's good practice to learn how stuff works.

I can probably expound on this, but I've got some early rising to do... More later.

"I might have to go do something less stressfull, like core pavement on a busy freeway, at night..."

Axenolith  posted on  2007-04-21   2:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Paul Revere (#6)

YT is a light weight pantload. His claim to fame here is his pugbowling thread or pugs with yogart cups on their heads.

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-04-21   8:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Kamala (#28)

Pugs.

Fine for women. GAY for men.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   8:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Kamala (#28)

STOP PUG BASHING!

Pugs serve a vital role in nature's food chain. Besides making tasty morsels for larger dogs, some newer Americans find them a treat for their Kwanzaa and Juneteenth celebrations.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-21   8:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull, kamala (#30)

ooser's not going to like this

but then again we're all going to be lucky

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-04-21   8:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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