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Title: Biblical Question
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Published: Apr 20, 2007
Author: KJV
Post Date: 2007-04-20 14:35:03 by intotheabyss
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Comments: 124

I was wondering about Mathew 5:18-19.

5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

When you read the 4Th commandment it says:

KJV - 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

My question is:

Why don't most churches worship on Saturday and why do most people feel compelled to use Sunday (the day of sun worshipers) as a day of worship and rest?

When the bible seems to me to be very clear on this. In Jesus's own words: (one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law)

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven

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#41. To: intotheabyss (#0)

Well .. Jesus was and IS the fulfillment of the Law.. "one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.".. He fulfilled the law..the law is no longer for those in Christ written as it's said on stone tablets but written in the hearts of those who are called by His name..

Therefore, the Sabbath (part of the law) is fulfilled in Jesus .. remember when the veil was torn when Jesus died? Men no longer had to go to the temple etc to be with God.. but the Spirit was released.. SO if we are in Christ Jesus.. we are keeping the Sabbath for He IS the Sabbath. It's not a day or a rule..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-04-20   20:18:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was and IS the fulfillment of the Law

Many Old Testament scriptures relate that believers are to keep the seventh day Sabbath (forever it says) as a sign between them and God. And I don't want to get into a dispute about it either, but the above analysis of the Law being fulfilled by Jesus doesn't meet the "forever" requirement. The temple veil being torn and representing the end of the law requires some interpretation.

Keep the Sabbath forever as a sign between ye and me is straight forward and stands without reference to interpretation.

This has been an issue for debate for a long time and by many ... someone is right and someone is wrong.

noone222  posted on  2007-04-20   21:00:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#48. To: noone222 (#47)

Sorry I disagree.. in a way.. of course we are to keep the Sabbath.. but not in the way you are meaning.. Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath.. therefore if we are 'in' Him .. everyday is the Sabbath .. we are keeping the Sabbath if we are called by His name.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-04-20 22:18:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Many Old Testament scriptures relate that believers are to keep the seventh day Sabbath (forever it says) as a sign between them and God. And I don't want to get into a dispute about it either, but the above analysis of the Law being fulfilled by Jesus doesn't meet the "forever" requirement. The temple veil being torn and representing the end of the law requires some interpretation.

Under the Law, a sinner could never approach or be in the presence of God....the veil between the Holy Place and Most Holy of Holies blocking them. Even the sacrifice given didn't buy access. The High Priest himself was a sinner and had to make sacrifice for himself before he could even take the nations' sacrifice into the Holy of Holies.

OTOH, Christ fulfilled completely the Law--he obeyed it heart and mind, and he became the sacrifice to cover or atone (die for) all sins, past, present, and future. At his death, the veil in the temple was torn apart which meant that individuals how had access to God through the Messiah. God looks at us through how he views Christ.

If the Law was still active, it would void what Christ has done. The Law was a type or picture or pattern of what was to come with the new covenant. The Israelites didn't obey the old, just rejecting GOd as their God; and hence, He would reject them as His people--for a time. I don't believe it is permanent rejection--at least not right now.

The 'old' doesn't replace the 'new'; it is the reverse. IIRC, it is Hebrews Chapter 8 that discusses the old decaying away because of the new covenant....and speaking of the Messiah in the process.

rowdee  posted on  2007-04-21 15:50:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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