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Title: Biblical Question
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Published: Apr 20, 2007
Author: KJV
Post Date: 2007-04-20 14:35:03 by intotheabyss
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I was wondering about Mathew 5:18-19.

5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

When you read the 4Th commandment it says:

KJV - 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

My question is:

Why don't most churches worship on Saturday and why do most people feel compelled to use Sunday (the day of sun worshipers) as a day of worship and rest?

When the bible seems to me to be very clear on this. In Jesus's own words: (one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law)

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven

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#2. To: intotheabyss (#0)

Why don't most churches worship on Saturday and why do most people feel compelled to use Sunday (the day of sun worshipers) as a day of worship and rest?

That's what the 7th Day Adventist church is for, people who get excited about this one.

The traditional answer I've heard is that Christ arose on the 3rd day, Sunday. Which as a child bothered me, because I only counted 2 days.

robin  posted on  2007-04-20   14:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The traditional answer I've heard is that Christ arose on the 3rd day, Sunday. Which as a child bothered me, because I only counted 2 days.

Yes, he was dead Friday, the Sabbath and for part of Sunday when he arose.

Like going to a hotel where they charge the sign out day as a full day. Mostly Protestants who forgot Christian history have to re-learn all this stuff over again since they make up their religious traditions as they go along.

Destro  posted on  2007-04-20   14:46:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, he was dead Friday, the Sabbath and for part of Sunday when he arose.

Like going to a hotel where they charge the sign out day as a full day. Mostly Protestants who forgot Christian history have to re-learn all this stuff over again since they make up their religious traditions as they go along.

There you go again Destro - spreading falsehoods and backing up the teachings of man as opposed to what the Scriptures actually say. "Like going to a hotel"... What a load of horseshit.

In this instance you are going against what the Messiah Himself told us. I suppose He was LYING though...

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Friday - day
Friday - night
Saturday - day
Saturday - night
Sunday - day
3 days and 2 nights. What happened to Sunday night??? Oh well, I guess the Messiah never was one to be too big on prophesies or telling the truth.

Edited to include echo5sierra

innieway  posted on  2007-04-23   6:31:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As I posted earlier, this bothered me as a child, but then in Sunday School I learned a little more. Do you really think you're going to stumble across something new, after 2,000 years?

http://www.carm.org/diff/Matt12_40.htm

The Jewish day was measured from sun down to sun down. If Jesus was in the grave for three 24 hour periods, then He could not have been raised on the third day because the third day had not yet been completed. He would have to be raised on fourth day for three 24 hour periods to have been completed and that wouldn't make sense to then say He was raised on the third day. So, what is going on?

The solution is simple when we learn that according to Jewish custom any part of a day, however small, is included as part of a full day.¹ "Since the Jews reckoned part of a day as a full day, the “three days and three nights” could permit a Friday crucifixion."² This phenomena is exemplified in scripture in the book of Esther. "Go, assemble all the Jews who are found in Susa, and fast for me; do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I and my maidens also will fast in the same way," (Esther 4:16 ). Then, in Esther 5:1 it says, "Now it came about on the third day that Esther put on her royal robes and stood in the inner court of the king’s palace in front of the king’s rooms, and the king was sitting on his royal throne in the throne room, opposite the entrance to the palace." We can see that even though the three days and nights had not been completed, Esther went in to see the King on the third day even though she said to fast for three days and nights. We see that "on the third day" is equivalent to "after three days."

Additionally, Mark 8:31 says, "And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again." Yet, 1 Cor. 15:4 says, "and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures." Also, Luke 24:5-7, "and as the women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, "Why do you seek the living One among the dead? ⁶"He is not here, but He has risen. Remember how He spoke to you while He was still in Galilee, ⁷saying that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again." Here we can see that "after three days" is equivalent to mean "on the third day."

Therefore, we can see that because of the Jewish usage of counting any part of a day as the whole of the day, the term "three days and nights" is idiomatic and not literal.

robin  posted on  2007-04-23   10:51:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#96. To: robin (#75)

The Jewish day was measured from sun down to sun down.

Still is - for all of us, even if we don't want to recognize it as such.

The solution is simple when we learn that according to Jewish custom any part of a day, however small, is included as part of a full day.1 "Since the Jews reckoned part of a day as a full day, the “three days and three nights” could permit a Friday crucifixion.

I'm not buying it. The Messiah SPECIFICALLY stated 3 days and 3 nights...

The ONLY way to work that would have been if the crucifixion happened EARLY Friday - which would have been AFTER sundown Thursday and BEFORE sunrise.

innieway  posted on  2007-04-23 21:36:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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