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Title: Niggers, Jews & Sigma Nus (Kinky Friedman)
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Published: Apr 21, 2007
Author: Kinky Friedman
Post Date: 2007-04-21 03:55:23 by Paul Revere
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Views: 539
Comments: 46

They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Any More

By Kinky Friedman

Well, a redneck nerd in a bowling shirt was a-guzzlin’ Lone Star beer

Talking religion and-uh politics for all the world to hear.

"They oughta send you back to Russia, boy, or New York City, one

You just want to doodle a Christian girl and you killed God's only son.

I said, "Has it occurred to you, you nerd, that that’s not very nice?

We jews believe it was Santa Claus that killed Jesus Christ."

"You know, you don’t look jewish," he said, near as I could figger,

"I had you lamped for a slightly anemic, well-dressed country nigger."

"No, they ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore,

They don’t turn the other cheek the way they done before."

He started in to shoutin’ and a-spittin’ on the floor,

"Lord, they ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore."

He says, "I ain’t a racist but Aristitle Onassis is one Greek we don’t need;

and them niggers, Jews and Sigma Nus, all they ever do is breed.

And wops n micks n slopes n spics n spooks are on my list,

And there’s one little hebe from the heart of texas, is there anyone I missed?"

Well, I hits him with everything I had right, square between the eyes.

I says, "I’m gonna gitcha, you son of a bitch ya, for spoutin’ that pack of lies.

If there’s one thing I can’t abide, it’s an ethnocentric racist;

Now you take back that thing you said about Aristitle Onassis!"

No, they ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore,

We don’t turn the other cheek the way we done before.

You could hear that honky holler as he hit that hardwood floor

"Lord, they sho’ ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore!"

All right!

No, they ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore,

We don’t turn the other cheek the way they done before.

You hear that honky holler as he hit that hardwood floor

Lord, they ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore.

Everybody!

They ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore,

They ain’t makin’ carpenters who know what nails are for.

Well, the whole damn place was singin’ as I strolled right out the door

lord, they ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore!

No, we ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore,

We don’t turn the other cheek the way they done before.

Well, the whole damn place was singin’ as I strolled right out the door

lord, they ain’t makin’ jews like jesus anymore!

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#6. To: All (#5)

This is what I get for posting in the middle of the night.

I can't be the only Kinky Friedman and Randy Newman fan here.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   13:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Paul Revere (#6)

can't be the only Kinky Friedman and Randy Newman fan here.

Sure ya can. Thanks for the post. Heck of a lyric.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-04-21   13:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Paul Revere (#6)

Kinky Friedman and Randy Newman

I like them both. I think it's our age bracket. We laughed at ourselves, others and authority.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-21   13:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Arator (#7)

Thanks.

For those who don't know, Kinky Friedman recently ran for governor of Texas as an independent, and got beat, but showed nicely. In the 1970s he was the front man for the most unusual Country & Western band in the country: Kinky Friedman and His Texas Jew Boys. I always thought he made the name to mimick the famous Texas Governor Pappy Lee O'Daniel and His Dough Boys, who were memorialized most recently in George Clooney's modern day Odyssey, O Brother! Where Art Thou?

Kinky started writing later, and he has become an accomplished author. He's truly one of a kind, and like IMUS, some of his schtick is politically unacceptable.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   13:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Paul Revere (#6)

Political Science
Randy Newman

No one likes us
I don't know why.
We may not be perfect
But heaven knows we try.
But all around even our old friends put us down.
Let's drop the big one and see what happens.

We give them money
But are they grateful?
No they're spiteful
And they're hateful.
They don't respect us so let's surprise them;
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them.

Now Asia's crowded
And Europe's too old.
Africa's far too hot,
And Canada's too cold.
And South America stole our name.
Let's drop the big one; there'll be no one left to blame us.

Bridge:
We'll save Australia;
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo.
We'll build an all-American amusement park there;
They've got surfing, too.

Well, boom goes London,
And boom Paris.
More room for you
And more room for me.
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town.
Oh, how peaceful it'll be;
We'll set everybody free;
You'll have Japanese kimonos, baby,
There'll be Italian shoes for me.
They all hate us anyhow,
So let's drop the big one now.
Let's drop the big one now.

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-04-21   13:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

I started listening to Randy Newman about 30 years ago, before he made it big with Short People. He wrote a number of soulful tunes about the South, and his song Rednecks was a classic among his fans and other free thinkers in the 1970s politically correct atmosphere. He and others properly resented the arrogance with which people outside the South acted as if they were treating blacks properly.

My favorite lines in Rednecks are not about blacks at all, but about the denizens of the South.

The line about LSU boys: "went in dumb, come out dumb, too" is hilarious to a Texan.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   14:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: DeaconBenjamin (#10)

Ha! Another of my favorites by Randy Newman one doesn't hear much in proper company.

Let's drop the big one and see what happens!

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   14:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Paul Revere (#12)

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

Mr. President (Have Pity On The Working Man)
Randy Newman

We've taken all you've given
But it's gettin' hard to make a livin'
Mr. President have pity on the working man

We're not asking you to love us
You may place yourself high above us
Mr. President have pity on the working man

I know it may sound funny
But people ev'ry where are runnin' out of money
We just can't make it by ourself

It is cold and the wind is blowing
We need something to keep us gong
Mr. President have pity on the working man

Maybe you've cheated
Maybe you've lied
Maybe you have finally lost your mind
Maybe you're only thinking 'bout yourself

Too late to run. Too late to cry now
The time has come for us to say good-bye now
Mr. President have pity on the working man
Mr. President have pity on the working man

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-04-21   14:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Paul Revere (#11)

Sounds like we're in the same church, slightly different pews - age wise that is :)

Newman is wonderful. He still does movie scores with Seabiscuit (a neat movie) his latest.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-21   14:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Randy also hates "short people"

Short People got no reason Short People got no reason Short People got no reason To live

They got little hands And little eyes And they walk around Tellin' great big lies They got little noses And tiny little teeth They wear platform shoes On their nasty little fett

Well, I don't want no Short People Don't want no Short People Don't want no Short People Round here

robnoel  posted on  2007-04-21   14:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Paul Revere, bluedogtxn (#0)

Niggers, Jews & Sigma Nus

You used the forbidden "N" word?

Well blewnigtxn has decreed that the word is not allowed here, and I'm gonna tell!

(PS: When he comes for you get him, Paul! ;) )

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-21   14:15:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

One of my godsons loved Toy Story, and he was always asking people to watch Toy Story with him. Randy did that one.

He's really become the prolific movie tune writer. My fav was the one used in LA Story, with Steve Martin. "Big nasty redhead at my side ..."

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   14:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16) (Edited)

You used the forbidden "N" word?

Well blewnigtxn has decreed that the word is not allowed here, and I'm gonna tell!

(PS: When he comes for you get him, Paul! ;) )

Someone has declared the word unacceptable here?

Why?

In my view, here is when it is not acceptable: When used meanly.

And its modern variation "nigga" is widely accepted. The funniest line on television the past 3 years probably came from Dave Chappelle's show and probably included either "nigger" or "nigga." As in ...

"I'm broke, nigga, I'm broke!!"

The most outrageous, perhaps, was his skit of an old black man who is blind and thinks he's white, because he was raised in an orphanage for blind kids and they never told him. He married a white woman, and became a best selling White Power author. Eventually, he learns he is black, and divorces his wife. "I had to," he says. "She's a nigger lover!"

As Larry the Cable says, that's funny, I don't care who you are!

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   14:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Paul Revere (#17)

He's really become the prolific movie tune writer.

It runs in the family.

His uncle Alfred Newman:

Airport (1970) (musical director)
Camelot (1967) (conductor) (music supervisor)
How the West Was Won (1962) (conductor) (uncredited)
State Fair (1962) (musical director)
Flower Drum Song (1961) (conductor) (music supervisor)
South Pacific (1958) (conductor) (music supervisor) (orchestrator)
The King and I (1956) (conductor) (music supervisor)
Carousel (1956) (conductor) (music supervisor)
There's No Business Like Show Business (1954) (conductor) (music supervisor)
How to Marry a Millionaire (1953) (musical director)
The Desert Rats (1953) (musical director)
Call Me Madam (1953) (music supervisor) (uncredited) (musical director)
All About Eve (1950) (musical director) (uncredited)
My Friend Irma (1949) (composer: stock music) (uncredited)
Call Northside 777 (1948) (musical director)
Miracle on 34th Street (1947) (musical director)
13 Rue Madeleine (1947) (musical director)
My Darling Clementine (1946) (musical director)
Sentimental Journey (1946) (composer: additional music) (US release)
State Fair (1945) (musical director)
The Sullivans (1944) (musical director)
... aka The Fighting Sullivans (USA: reissue title)
A Yank in the R.A.F. (1941) (musical director)
Tin Pan Alley (1940) (musical director)
The Mark of Zorro (1940) (musical director) (uncredited)
The Grapes of Wrath (1940) (musical director) (uncredited)
Made for Each Other (1939) (composer: stock music) (uncredited)
Alexander's Ragtime Band (1938) (conductor)
... aka Irving Berlin's Alexander's Ragtime Band (USA: promotional title) Stella Dallas (1937) (musical director)
Folies-Bergère (1936) (musical director)
Broadway Melody of 1936 (1935) (musical director)
Indiscreet (1931) (musical director)
City Lights (1931) (musical director)

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-04-21   14:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robnoel (#15)

Randy also hates "short people"

Hilarious robby. As you prob. know that song has been deemed politically incorrect and subsequently removed from the airwaves for our protection and that of the children. That said, I'd like to hear it in your musical rotation next week :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-21   14:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

Heres one he did about the old country

Every night In jungletown All the boogies in the street Radios turned up very loud Playin dancing queen They love our music

This english girl from the north somewhere Is stayin with me at my place Drinkin up all my beer Talkin about the poor niggers all the time Its a real disgrace, she says I tell her, darling, dont talk about things You dont understand I tell her, darling, dont talk about something You dont know anything about I tell her, darling, if you dont like it here Go back to your own miserable country

Its christmas in cape town but it aint the same Oh, the boys on the beach are still blowin And the summer wind still kicks the clouds around

You know my little brother, babe Well, he works out at the diamond mine I drove him out there at five this mornin The niggers were waitin in a big long line You know those big old lunch pails they carry, man With a picture of star wars painted on the side They were starin at us real hard with Their big ugly yellow eyes You could feel it You could feel it

Its christmas in cape town but it aint the same The stores are open all the time And little kids on skateboards cut in and out of the crowd And the christmas lights still shine Myself, I dont like to drink the way I used to, man, you know It dont seem to get me high And the beer dont taste the way it Ought to taste somehow And I dont know why

Dont talk to me about the planes Man, Ive heard it Just take a look around What are we gonna do, blow up The whole damn country?

Its christmas in cape town Its christmas in cape town Its christmas in cape town

robnoel  posted on  2007-04-21   14:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Paul Revere (#17)

Toy Story

Was Jackie Gleason in that? He grew up in Bed Sty, and whenever possible I used to pass his old house a give the Moose Lodge salute.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-21   14:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Its in the rotation maybe they are being PC down in Round Rock....even Christmas in Cape Town on the list :-)....later off to watch the ponies

robnoel  posted on  2007-04-21   14:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robnoel (#23)

Before you go, here's one from Roger Whittaker.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-21   14:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Paul Revere, lodwick (#6)

I can't be the only Kinky Friedman

lodwick is! ;)

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-21   15:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: RickyJ (#3)

that's a Kinky Friedman song, Ricky. PR isn't the author.

Kinky Friedman, Independent Texan

Free Speech on Freedom4um

christine  posted on  2007-04-21   16:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: DeaconBenjamin (#19)

I had no idea that was his uncle. Thanks.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   16:28:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robnoel (#21)

Randy Newman can really write lyrics well. He strains to sing, but the words are solid.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-21   16:30:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#25)

I can't be the only Kinky Friedman

lodwick is! ;)

Yep - The Texas Jew-boy got my money and my vote (as well as everyone else that I've spoken with) and all I got was the assclown HelmetHead and some cool t-shirts.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-21   17:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lodwick (#29)

some cool t-shirts.

No bumper stickers?

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2007-04-21   19:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: DeaconBenjamin (#30)

No bumper stickers?

Yeah, but most all those were passed out at the local coffee shop.

The blackboxvoting machines could elect HowdyDowdy president - oops, they already have.

Sick of it all, cheers, Deac.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-21   19:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16)

Niggers, Jews & Sigma Nus You used the forbidden "N" word?

Well blewnigtxn has decreed that the word is not allowed here, and I'm gonna tell!

(PS: When he comes for you get him, Paul! ;) )

There's a huge difference between the way Paul Revere used the word nigger in his post and the happy way you use it. Maybe if you'd read the post instead of just that one word which got you all salivating you'd have understood that.

Nigger away, DAWG.

It is not a Justice System. It is just a system.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-23   9:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: bluedogtxn (#32)

There's a huge difference between the way Paul Revere used the word nigger in his post and the happy way you use it. Maybe if you'd read the post instead of just that one word which got you all salivating you'd have understood that.

Nigger away, DAWG

So, I wrote "nig....I mean, African American" and enjoyed it, and that's what I was called down for?

Okay, I'll take that hit.

If there are a lot of white people who feel that way I'm not aware of it because they seldom (never) speak up.

I expect and mostly ignore attacks from those "other" people.

It would be interesting to know who agrees that, well, agrees with you.

"DAWG shouldn't post the "N" word or any variant in a manner as to indicate he enjoys its gratuitous, offensive, racist intent or meaning"

I AGREE_____

I DON'T CARE___

I DISAGREE___

PLEASE VOTE

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-24   9:24:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#33)

I am very much in favor of our generation recognizing there are new generations behind us, and this is increasingly their world, not ours. The torch is passing, and this will be last the last Boomer president, if the next president is a Boomer.

When we grew up, "nigger" was about the most charged word in the country, and we all knew it was used to describe blacks in a derogatory manner. But life evolves, music evolves, culture evolves.

I have two grown sons who are in their twenties. I raised them both, had sole custody, and neither one of them has ever been in any trouble, because old dad doesn't take any shit. I had an atmosphere in which they wanted to bring friends over and those friends wanted to come over. And I never once had a moment's trouble with any of them, because I told them: "there will be no violence here, and there will be no loud or angry shouting, and if you do, I'll personally kick your ass out for good. Now yall have fun, and don't let me feel the base on the other side of the house."

Some of their friends were black, and it is unsettling for a person of my generation to hear young guys using all manner of the N word, which has become part of their culture. They do not speak it with prejudice, however. Like this ....

To express exasperation: Negro, are you out of your mind?!

To express brotherhood upon greeting: What's up, my nigga?

To express very close friendship: You know you're my nigga.

To express one's lack of money: I am one broke ass nigga!

To express a loving relationship with a woman: "Do I wanna fuck, or do I wanna be her nigga?" This one is actually a lyric by Obie Trice, talking about a girl he meets. He's saying "do I want to just hit it and have sex one time, or am I more interested in a real relationship with this girl I've been getting close to?"

When the word is not slung around like a mace, it has many wonderful meanings. We as a generation need to see that, but we also need to recognize that it's still not funny or amusing when used in anger or to inflict pain.

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-24   9:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Paul Revere, bluedogtxn (#34)

To: HOUNDDAWG, all

I am very much in favor of our generation recognizing there are new generations behind us, and this is increasingly their world, not ours. The torch is passing, and this will be last the last Boomer president, if the next president is a Boomer.

When we grew up, "nigger" was about the most charged word in the country, and we all knew it was used to describe blacks in a derogatory manner. But life evolves, music evolves, culture evolves.

I have two grown sons who are in their twenties. I raised them both, had sole custody, and neither one of them has ever been in any trouble, because old dad doesn't take any shit. I had an atmosphere in which they wanted to bring friends over and those friends wanted to come over. And I never once had a moment's trouble with any of them, because I told them: "there will be no violence here, and there will be no loud or angry shouting, and if you do, I'll personally kick your ass out for good. Now yall have fun, and don't let me feel the base on the other side of the house."

Some of their friends were black, and it is unsettling for a person of my generation to hear young guys using all manner of the N word, which has become part of their culture. They do not speak it with prejudice, however. Like this ....

To express exasperation: Negro, are you out of your mind?!

To express brotherhood upon greeting: What's up, my nigga?

To express very close friendship: You know you're my nigga.

To express one's lack of money: I am one broke ass nigga!

To express a loving relationship with a woman: "Do I wanna fuck, or do I wanna be her nigga?" This one is actually a lyric by Obie Trice, talking about a girl he meets. He's saying "do I want to just hit it and have sex one time, or am I more interested in a real relationship with this girl I've been getting close to?"

When the word is not slung around like a mace, it has many wonderful meanings. We as a generation need to see that, but we also need to recognize that it's still not funny or amusing when used in anger or to inflict pain.

Alright, that's one vote for I AGREE.

This is really going well so far, don't you think?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-24   10:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: HOUNDDAWG, all (#35) (Edited)

Dawg, I'm not really voting, I'm just expressing how I feel in narrative form.

I don't want to vote, but I could vary my delivery vehicle.

How about a haiku?

Nigger is a word

that can be fun when it's used

appropriately

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-24   10:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Paul Revere (#34)

Hey PV, in my lifetime African Americans have been called darks (Dusky Sally), niggers, colored, Negros, and now people of color. When the whites and blacks finally agree on a term they like perhaps we can tag and label them.

Chime in politically correct. You’re the folks who have us in the mess.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-24   10:28:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Paul Revere, Dakmar (#34)

It would be hard to pick a subject of discussion that is more likely to cause a dispute between libertarians and liberals.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-24   10:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Paul Revere, bluedogtxn (#36)

Dawg, I'm not really voting, I'm just expressing how I feel in narrative form.

I don't want to vote, but I could vary my delivery vehicle.

How about a haiku?

Nigger is a word

that can be fun when it's used

appropriately

Clever!

I use it to beat up on the bruthas and bluedogtxn uses it to best up on me so, fun is a good word!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-24   10:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

I generally believe that all gods should be pissed on, including the god of ritual adherence to someone's vision of the acceptable. We need more irreverence and less conformity.

As a reference to a recognized figure, but not a religious invocation, I would simply point to the teachings of Jesus, when he says "come on, nigga, you know you want others to treat you right, so do a brother a solid, too."

Did I mention Jesus was black, or at least, a man of color?

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-24   10:45:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: HOUNDDAWG, Paul Revere, aristeides, whomever (#39)

I use it to beat up on the bruthas and bluedogtxn uses it to best up on me so, fun is a good word!

This has obviously become a bit of an obsession with you. I've explained why I find your use of the term nigger objectionable, and you want to turn it into a censorship or PC issue or whatever.

Have your day in the sun, like I said.

Nigger away.

Does the yellow hurt your eyes? Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-24   10:54:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: bluedogtxn (#41)

I use it to beat up on the bruthas and bluedogtxn uses it to best up on me so, fun is a good word!

This has obviously become a bit of an obsession with you. I've explained why I find your use of the term nigger objectionable, and you want to turn it into a censorship or PC issue or whatever.

Have your day in the sun, like I said.

Nigger away.

Aren't you the least bit curious if you speak for others?

I know I am.

if you speak only for yourself then perhaps we should have discussed this privately, and with no embarrassment.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-24   11:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: HOUNDDAWG (#42)

Aren't you the least bit curious if you speak for others?

No.

Does the yellow hurt your eyes? Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-24   11:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Paul Revere (#40)

I'm not sure what color Jesus was, and I honestly don’t care…. but I never understood why any MAN would endure such punishment. I’d have told them to shove their cross and crown of thorns. Governments do have the power to kill us, but not humiliate us.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-04-24   11:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull (#44)

By making the cross its symbol, Christianity reversed the meaning of the cross.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-04-24   11:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: aristeides (#45)

By making the cross its symbol, Christianity reversed the meaning of the cross.

I don't think so. The cross was the symbol of the "criminal" the despised outcast that the state murders.

I think if Christ came back (and I'm not a dispensationalist, I don't think he's coming back corporeally any time soon) and walked around doing what he did back then and challenging authority and materiality and basic moral assumptions he'd be murdered by the State all over again.

I think Christ branded the state for what they are with the cross. He never changed the meaning of the cross, he changed the meaning of who WE are.

Does the yellow hurt your eyes? Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-04-24   11:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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