4um: Cho’s high school has produced TWO psychotic young adults who went on gun rampages within one year of each other

Title: Cho’s high school has produced TWO psychotic young adults who went on gun rampages within one year of each other
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Published: Apr 19, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-04-22 13:33:39 by robin
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Cho Seung-hui lost his mind. I think the public deserves to know who stole it from him.

Cho gave us lots of hints, and probably a lot MORE hints remain among the pages not yet published by NBC. And he also left us those photos that have run incessantly behind the talking heads of the news networks. I was watching CNN last night and most of the interviews were done split screen with the images of Cho dwarfing the images of whoever was being interviewed. That gun kept pointing right in my face over and over again. I simply had to stop watching.

And I hate to reprint one of those images here except that someone at Something Awful, a discussion board I know nothing about, noticed the similarity between one of Cho’s images and the poster for OldBoy. Here’s the original:

Alone that doesn’t tell us too much. It’s not that strange that a violence-haunted young South Korean would be attracted to a violent South Korean film. However, I think it’s worth noting that the film is not just about violence and revenge, it is also about mind control and manipulation. The hero of the film is kidnapped by an enemy (not the government) and held in a prison for fifteen years while repeatedly drugged and hypnotized to forget aspects of his life and to be “programmed” to carry out a variety of tasks under the illusion that they are of his own free will.

One can be “programmed” in this way by life itself. Given enough trauma in childhood, whole separate selves can split off and carry out lives that the primary personality isn’t even aware of. I don’t know that Cho had multiple personalities. He could simply have been suffering from schizophrenia. However, I do think it is quite reasonable to assume that Cho had experienced some fairly serious abuse. His writings and statements, disjointed as they are, focus very much on this abuse. For some reason, no one is asking many questions about that. Nor does anyone seem to be asking questions about why Cho’s high school has produced TWO psychotic young adults who went on gun rampages within one year of each other. Last May, Michael Kennedy, a student at Westfield High School in Chantilly, Virginia, went on a shooting rampage at a police station, killing two police officers before being fatally shot himself. Authorities consider this just a “horrible coincidence”. Adding to the coincidence is that Michael’s father, Brian Kennedy, was just recently released from jail in charges related to that killing. In fact, he was due in court the day after the Cho killings.

Kennedy was another troubled loner. He suffered, say news accounts, from delusions and grandiose paranoia. Said one friend:

“He thought he was Jesus. He talked about aliens,” said Brandon Baker, a friend of Kennedy’s since sixth grade. Baker said Kennedy told him he sometimes took medication. “He was talking about how he was superhuman.”
Kennedy had also recently changed his MySpace profile name from Kennedy to “Herr Azriel,” in reference to an angel of destruction.

Just before his killing spree, Kennedy text messaged a friend to say that therapy and medication had not worked for him. The only thing he could think of was an “exorcism.”

What didn’t help things much is that Kennedy’s parents, who knew Michael was mentally ill, kept weapons around the house. A LOT of weapons:

The indictment states that Brian Kennedy illegally possessed 20 firearms, including an AK-47 and several bolt-action and semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. He also owned a large variety of handguns — among them a .38 Special Taurus and a 9 mm Luger Commander semi-automatic pistol.
Weapons were everywhere in the Kennedy home; the inventory list of items seized is 10 pages long. Under the mattress in the master bedroom were a Colt 9 mm handgun with one round in the chamber and a leather sheath containing a 9-inch knife. On the nightstand were a bayonet plus high-velocity ammunition for a Remington, semi-automatic shotgun.
A Smith & Wesson knife was under the left, loveseat cushion in the living room, and both a 12-gauge shotgun and a 22-caliber long rifle stood in the corner of the hallway to the basement. An M80 explosive was tucked inside a kitchen cabinet to the right of the stove, and an Atlanta Sharptec knife was stored in the ceiling above the utility-room door.

And his mom did what any concerned mother might do…she took him to a firing range to practice with his new AK.

Strangely, news accounts calling the two shooter’s connection via Westfield High a “coincidence” suggest that they were not at the school at the same time:

Cho and Kennedy lived in Centreville and graduated from Westfield High School, said Officer Courtney Thibault of the Fairfax County Police Department. She said Cho graduated four years ahead of Kennedy.

I’ve only had one cup of coffee this morning, but help me with this math. Michael Kennedy graduated in 2005 and Cho Seung-hui graduated in 2003. Probably just an oversight.

I’ve seen no evidence that these two knew each other. But I also haven’t seen much evidence that anyone has bothered to check it out.

It gets worse, of course, as these things always do. First, have a look at Cho’s literary efforts. Two very short plays that were so horribly written it does make one wonder how he made it to his senior year at Va Tech. One is called “Mr. Brownstone“. In that play, three young people at a casino complain that they can’t find anywhere safe from “Mr. Brownstone.” That name is used by band Guns-n-Roses to mean heroin, but in this case it is a math teacher who has “ass-raped probably half the kids in the school.” That, after all, says one character, is “what high school teachers do.”

When Brownstone does show up, one character asks: “I feel a satanic presence around me. Do you guys feel it?” They then sing much of the Guns -’n-Roses song. Then the main character John wins at the slot machine only to have his winnings taken by Brownstone.

In Richard McBeef, the abuser is this time “John’s” stepfather. In this play, John is only 13. While having a talk with John, Richard puts his hand on the boy’s lap and John explodes, calling him a pedophile and a “Catholic priest.” He then claims that this step-father had murdered his real father and covered it up like “the government has done to John Lennon and Marilyn Monroe.”

Really all I have done here is show that two troubled young adults came out of the same school. But what a school. Westfield High School happens to be in the second richest county in the country. In fact, the median income is over $94,000 per year. And a lot of that cash is coming from defense contractors…with a large subset of THAT being from companies who outsource for the CIA and other intelligence agencies. You may be familiar with “Booz Allen Hamilton” who is called in this article a “huge supplier of intelligence contracting.” They were a primary contractor for the officially defunct “Total Information Awareness Program” as well. Another contractor of interest to readers of this blog who is a big employer in Fairfax is Science Applications International Corporation. These are the folks who took over the remote viewing program, with help from our old friend Jolly West (from Jim Schnabel’s Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America’s Psychic Spies. For more on West, you can check out this previous post.

Now, West died in 1999 and I have no idea if he ever even visited the Virginia branch of SAIC. I am merely giving you a sense of the flavor of the dark world of intel and defense contractors in which both Cho and Kennedy, were raised.

A final intelligence contractor of interest here is Northrup Grumman’s Intelligence Group. Not only does Northrup Grumman have a presence in Fairfax, they in fact have a “business partnership” with Cho’s alma mater, Westfield High. As you can see from that last wiki link, the school has a very high level of academic achievement, including even an Aerospace Science program. So it makes sense that a military and intelligence contractor would “partner” with them in order to help steer students into helpful directions and perhaps engage in outright recruitment. Perhaps this is how Cho’s sister ended up working for McNeil Technologies, another contractor who also has an intelligence division which provides services for clients including Northrup Grumman. She now is working on the “reconstruction” of Iraq in some unnamed capacity.

This is the world Cho grew up in. None of this proves anything about why, ultimately, Cho did what he did. He and Kennedy were both outsiders, as far as I can tell, even though Cho’s sister made it to Princeton and into a defense contractor herself. But here, with overt ties to an intelligence contractor and in the very heart of the military industrial complex, we have a not-so-secret school which has now produced two young men haunted by demons that only mass murder will quiet. With rumors of Satanism (Kennedy) and sexual abuse of children (Cho) and the uncomfortable recognition of both of these themes within that same military/intel complex, it’s time to have a longer look at these latest lone gunmen.

(Note, this is a draft. I do not have time to revise or edit until later but I wanted to put this up now. Comments on typos or inaccuracies are welcome.)

Um, to advocate publicly the destruction of America??? Though I must point out that you inserted the bombing part.

You stated that you want the same thing to happen to America that we did to Serbia. Bombing was exactly what you meant.

By the way - why is it I hate America but you claim you love it yet you are the one claiming the US govt is creating brain washed killers like Cho.

1. Don't answer a question/assertion about you with a question.
2. I never said I believe Cho was brainswashed. Never. I am merely open to the possibility. We've all made this clear to you multiple times.

Logic problem there - how can you love your country when that is what you claim they are up to behind our backs? Maybe you don't love America as much as you think you do.

One can love one's country and despising one's government when it has run amuck. A child can understand the difference. My questions to you remain unanswered. If you want the same thing to happen to America that we did to Serbia, then why are you here?

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

And with a name like "Destro" (only one letter short of "Destroy"), his intentions can't be good.

I can't help but notice that for someone who dislikes Americans so much, he seems very fond of the Bush regime's positions. And will even argue for them.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

With all due respect I am sick and tired of seeing your ass trolling these threads, IF it's such a stupid and absurd topic of discussion, why are you posting here???????????????

When my oldest son was a toddler, about 2-3, he had a way of letting me know he thought I needed to stop reading my morning newspaper and pay some attention to him. He'd suddenly come crashing through the paper I was holding up and reading.

My son had a good reason and was a little kid. Destro? Who knows? He sures seems to hate America, hate Americans, but hate anyone who questions our government. WTF is that? His posts and positions are incongruous.

We all believe that any shooting, accident, tornado, flood or even an acne outbreak must be a government op.

You dissenters are just way too smart for us dumb hick tin foil hat wear'n types.

It was a narrow escape. If the sheep had been created first, man would have been a plagiarism. -- Mark Twain

No group of professionals meets except to conspire against the public at large. -- Mark Twain

RUN AMUCK???? What you claim about your country makes it seem that it is run by monsters worse than Stalin who have killed how many thousands of Americans now? And carry out random killings via poor brainwashed victims who are abused for years to make them zombie killers all to get some laws passed or move news out of the spotlight. Run amuck, indeed. What you going to do about it?

Were did you get that I am fond of the Bush regime. Do you make stuff up as you go along - are you delusional? You mean not thinking the VT killings were done by a zombie killer is shilling for the Bush regime? Nuts.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"Heh he..There you go again." [a la Ronald Reagan] Another little catalyst to "action" ...I still think you're a disinformationist and agent provacateur SPOOK trying to get people to "take action." You are so predictable.

In other words - you will do nothing so you are full of it and you know deep down this is BS. But you like the mythology of it all.

And you never answered my question to you about psyops; you do seem eager to discount any mentioned on this 4um.

Thinking the killer was a govt trained/brainwashed killer is far from intelligent. It is absurd.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Can you not read? Has your foreign education made you illiterate? How many times must I say I do not believe he is a black ops; I am merely open to the possibility. Stop throwing up your lies and BS. You've failed to answer my question Spook...why ARE you here????????? A very simple question actually. Let the forum know.

The description of how the towers fell etc is not an explanation of 9/11. It is the effect of 9/11.

I discount the govts story up till the planes crashing. The rest is meaningless except to autistic types stuck like a record.

And I do not bear false witness. I have witnessed your consistent arguments against any govt conspiracy theory about 9/11, including how the towers fell. You know full well that the govt's explanation of 9/11 is the 9/11 Commission as to how the buildings fell, and that according to the govt the cause of 9/11 is OBL, al-Qaeda and 19 Arab Muslim terrorist hijackers. IOW, how the buildings fell and who caused 9/11 are tied together.

Have you ever argued against the govt's explanation for the fall of the buildings OR against the govt's explanation for the cause of 9/11? If so, I haven't read it here. I could have missed it. If so, you could easily post a link to where you have.

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Yea, it does - but they are the kind that is not based on bad comic book stories.

For example - having Pentagon psyop agents work at CNN as 'interns' during the Kosovo war to skew the reporting to the official line.

A real world example of a blackop is carrying out a massacre or arranging the bodies after a battle to blame the 'enemy' like the USA did in Kosovo in the so called Racak massacre.

Have you not stated multiple times in this forum you are an American citizen from Europe...a "european-american" as you have put it so many times??

Now I see you refer to us Americans in the THIRD PERSON. You are a damned liar and should go back to wherever it is you came from asshole. . Stay away from Texas scooter.

You hate America, you've stated you hope we are attacked "like we did to Serbia" [bombed} and you despise us, YET YOU ADVOCATE THAT WE "TAKE ACTION" in many of your posts just as a SPOOK would who is trying to incite illegal behavior.. Be damned glad you aren't in Texas.

Get fucking lost. You have now become the only bozo on my list.....PERMANENTLY. You are a treasonous liar and a Fraud. You no longer exist on this forum. Your picture is below.

He's a pretty sloppy shill, huh? Since his position seems to always be anti-muslim, maybe he's one of those Israeli forum trolls?

We are Americans. Go home and join the invading army when it comes. then we will kill you.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

I've spotted this creep trying to do that before. Good call on the filter. Destro behaves more like a mole who is engaged in action as an agent provocateur than anything else.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

The enemy must be seriously lacking when they send shills like Destro and BAC here to try and disrupt things.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

Are you one of those "Next-Generation Nazis?" Are you one of BAC's "buddies?"

I don't know if I should take as a compliment being considered a spook or find it funny.

I don't support Israel nor do I support the Palestinians - nor do I support America's foreign policy under Clinton and Bush2 and I was too young to remember much of Bush1 nor do I support the EU.

It tends to be pro-Bush AND pro-Israel. Although my stance is anti-Bush Regime and pro-Palestinian rights (which does not include moving all the Israelis to Madagascar). Jewish people are thriving on several continents, I don't see why they cannot keep to the original borders of the land given to them by Lord Balfour (even after they were killing British soldiers).

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I am pro-Pali rights as well - I am for reducing Israel somewhat and ending American backed settlements and making the Westbank and Gaza the Pali state. Israel then must modify Zionism which is an ethno- racist concept so as to conform with modern concepts.

With that said - you are also guilty of making stuff up about my views in regards to supporting Bush.

When I encounter such thinking how can I be positive toward American abilities at analysis?

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either — but right through the human heart." — Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn