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Title: "now that we're there" or "now that they're here"
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Published: Apr 28, 2007
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2007-04-28 16:41:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 485
Comments: 9

Let's see who can come up with the most interesting or comical rebuttals to the following:

Well... maybe starting the war in Iraq was a mistake but... now that we're there...

Yes, entering the country illegally is... well... illegal but... now that they are here...

These are the standard idiot talking points in support of continuing the Iraqi war and accepting the reality of tens of millions of Third World illegals in the country.

"well... he did rape her and he did keep her locked up in the basement for 10 years but... now that they've been living together for all this time..."

"yes, after we burned their house and killed their children, we did learn that they were innocent but... now that we are sitting on the smoking ruins... shouldn't we finish the job and kill them all?"

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

"yes, after we burned their house and killed their children, we did learn that they were innocent but... now that we are sitting on the smoking ruins... shouldn't we finish the job and kill them all?"

That's the mentality I'm hearing, but it's couched in words like "reconstruction".

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." — Albert Einstein

robin  posted on  2007-04-28   17:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

Other popular talking points:

Even if the war was started on false premises and no one can explain why we should continue the occupation, it would make the sacrifice of those who fought in this war and died seem to be meaningless so more should die to give a meaning to the deaths of those who died before them. The Pentagon just announced the death of 9 more young Americans in Iraq.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-28   17:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Well... maybe starting the war in Iraq was a mistake but... now that we're there...

"Yes, driving drunk was a crime and a bad idea, but since we hit those people, we might as well drag the survivors out of their car and finish the job!"

Paul Revere  posted on  2007-04-28   17:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#2)

it would make the sacrifice of those who fought in this war and died seem to be meaningless so more should die to give a meaning to the deaths of those who died before them.

That's an unspoken, almost taboo, underlying message. Maybe we should look at examples in history of important retreats, that saved a civilization.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." — Albert Einstein

robin  posted on  2007-04-28   17:19:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Paul Revere (#3)

Dead men tell no tales...

Which means we're just pirates.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." — Albert Einstein

robin  posted on  2007-04-28   17:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, robin, all who are appalled here (#2)

Should we be honoring these cretins with a thread here?

But, as long as we're here, we need to stay and finish the job...

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-28   17:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: lodwick (#6)

We need to help them find a way out of the morass. And we can't do that w/o understanding how they think.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." — Albert Einstein

robin  posted on  2007-04-28   17:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#4)

The thing is that invading Iraq was a mistake if not a crime backed by a lie. No one disputes it, except for a few leftover kooks. Once we established that the invasion was a mistake, the number one goal should be to undo the mistake not to take advantage of the fact that 'we are there' and attempt to get some 'good things' done. Yes, people died and they've been put in harm's way by their reckless leaders. The leaders need to pay for this, not be kept as leaders who continue to have the power to send more people to die there.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-28   17:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)

The leaders need to pay for this, not be kept as leaders who continue to have the power to send more people to die there.

Accountability Now!

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." — Albert Einstein

robin  posted on  2007-04-28   17:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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