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Title: In the market for a small sporty 4 wheel drive vehicle. Suggestions?
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Published: Apr 29, 2007
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2007-04-29 11:50:01 by christine
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We're looking at country property and I'll be traveling on dirt/gravel roads. Safety, gas mileage, durability, comfort afa feeling the bumpity bumps, etc important.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Too many choices! Good luck deciding. Who has the best deals in town?

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." — Albert Einstein

robin  posted on  2007-04-29   11:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

How about one of the Jeep models? Not the real-short wheelbase model, but the sedan-types. ?? Sure are nice lookin'...I'm thinking about one - and that should be reason enough for you guys. Pardon...youse guys.

Bub  posted on  2007-04-29   11:59:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#0)

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-04-29   11:59:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Bub (#2)

yes, jeep is a consideration except that years ago we had a Cherokee and it was the biggest lemon we've ever had. maybe they're improved them. in general, i've not been happy with the American manufactured cars we've had, but we've been extremely happy with all our Japanese cars/trucks.

christine  posted on  2007-04-29   12:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4) (Edited)

Glad you found that out. You can pull up reviews on the net and Jeeps get consistent reviews as being POS lemons. Probably won't go wrong with one of the Toyota 4x4's however, beware: If it does need repair, you'll pay through the nose. My Ford Explorer has 138K on it, is 10 years old, and at 110K needed a new clutch [manual trannie], a new trannie and that's been it so far. One of the most reliable vehicles I've ever driven. Stay away from ANY GM product!!!!!!!!!!!!! Biggest lemon I ever owned was a 1986 Chevy Camaro. GM? NEVER AGAIN. If I had to get a new one which I won't, I'd test drive the Toyota line of SUV's and the Fords and go for the one that feels the best. The Toyota will probably have a much easier shift, a more solid truck feel. The Explorer is just a sedan chassis. I'd avoid it for that reason if I had to do it again because its suspension can NOT handle off road or bumps and its clearance is way too low. TRY THE TOYOTAS.

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-04-29   12:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#0)

I've got 2 for you, will deliver 2002 Lexus RX300 dream car 30K miles mint condition. Looks like this:

Or a loaded 1999 Chevy Suburban Cowboy Cadillac with 90K miles.

Isn't there something you're dieing to tell me right now? ..........I'm waiting.....

Don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash. -- Winston Churchill

Hmmmmm  posted on  2007-04-29   12:51:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#0)

Toyota and Honda are top-rated for reliability - I'll try to find a recent ConsumerReport on this question.

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Lod  posted on  2007-04-29   12:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#4)

My brother bought a Hundai a couple of years ago because he was broke at the time and they were cheep. 365,000 miles later, he still uses it to run every day from Long Island to Philadalphia, PA every day. He's not broke any more, and he just bought another one. He still uses the old one to go to Philly though.

I drove the old one last time I was down there. You'd be hard pressed to notice it had that kind of mileage on it. They are some well built machines.


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Critter  posted on  2007-04-29   12:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All, christine, car buyers here (#7)

Toyota RAV4 - top rated by CR

$20 - 30K depending on trim level and options.

The V-6 engine delivers 23mpg, overall, on regular fuel.

They go on and on about the quiet, comfortable ride, agile handling, spacious back seat, etc. etc.

The newly redesigned Honda CR-V is "a good runner-up."

This information is in the April '07 CR magazine - their annual automobile issue...it also lists the "best" and "worst" and those to totally avoid.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-29   13:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#4)

happy with all our Japanese cars/trucks.

Those fine folks sure do make fine machines. An article in one of my recent woodworking magazines said, essentially: "stop your whining - almost all equipment now comes from China, Japan, or wherever". So, I whine no more. My Honda equipment was peerless.

Bub  posted on  2007-04-29   13:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All, christine (#9)

Link to the new Nissan Rogue which will compete with the RAV 4 and the CR-V -

http://www.egmcartech.com/2006/12/28/nissan-unveils-rogue-cuv/

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-29   13:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

An excellent selection for those days when gas sells for NINE DOLLARS a gallon (not as far away as you think).

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-04-29   14:13:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lodwick (#11)

hmmmm..that could be a possibility! thanks for your research, jim. i appreciate it.

christine  posted on  2007-04-29   14:20:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Critter, christine, all (#8)

Excellent review for the new Hyundai SUV -

A Lexus-like seven-seat SUV that should continue to convert Hyundai skeptics.

BY ERIK JOHNSON, March 2007

Plop down into the driver’s seat of the Hyundai Veracruz, and you’ll find yourself in the middle of a quiet, comfortable, content-rich revelation. With a smooth, competent powertrain and luxury touches everywhere you look, it’s not hard to convince yourself that you’re behind the wheel of a Lexus. That’s hardly a shock, of course, given that Hyundai chose the Lexus RX350 as the benchmark for its seven-passenger Veracruz, which is now the largest SUV in Hyundai’s lineup.

A Smokin’ Deal

We tested an upscale front-wheel-drive Limited model, but all-wheel drive is available on any trim level for a $1700 premium. Ours was $33,120, with the only extra a set of floor mats for $125. Those luxury touches we mentioned? Mood lighting, heated leather seats, a six-CD Infinity stereo, a power liftgate, a sunroof, and auto-dimming rearview and side mirrors are all standard. Granted, many of those items are optional on lesser trim levels, but even the base Veracruz includes second-row climate controls, satellite radio, six airbags, and defroster-equipped side mirrors for $26,995, $100 less than an entry-level Honda Pilot and $500 or so less than a similarly outfitted Toyota Highlander. (A base Highlander costs some $1500 less than a Veracruz but doesn’t include a V-6 or third-row seating.) Should you feel particularly self-indulgent, available packages will add anything from a rear-seat DVD entertainment system to an upgraded, 605-watt stereo to power-adjustable pedals to hands-free keyless entry. Refined and Smooth: Hyundai Hallmarks?

A 3.8-liter, 24-valve V-6 is the only engine for the Veracruz, no matter which trim level you choose—GLS, SE, or Limited. Its 260 horsepower provides acceleration that we can’t call particularly fast or ridiculously slow. Figure on about eight seconds for the 0-to-60-mph benchmark. But power delivery is very linear, and there’s a respectable 257 pound-feet of torque. The big Hyundai is quiet, too. Very little engine noise makes it into the cabin, and at idle, the Veracruz is so quiet and vibration-free that, if you’re like us, you’ll need to double-check that you’ve twisted the key before slipping into gear. Fuel-economy ratings are 18 mpg city and 25 mpg highway, on par with the Pilot and Highlander. As refined as the V-6 is, the best part of the drivetrain is perhaps the Aisin-sourced six-speed automatic, Hyundai’s first. Upshifts are hiccup-free and quick, and the box operates so seamlessly, you hardly know it’s there. There’s a manumatic shifting feature, although tipping the lever toward the passenger side to activate it rather than toward the driver seems backward.

The strut-front and multilink-rear suspension delivers a plush, comfortable ride, especially on the freeway, and we found body control to be exemplary. Sure, there’s some lean when you pitch the Veracruz into a corner with any aggression, but it’s taken care of so quickly that you hardly care. This is certainly no bobbing oceanliner, and there’s little of the rear-end wiggle that usually accompanies soft-riding vehicles with a high center of gravity. The steering has luxury-grade heft but unfortunately is as dead as Orson Welles; you’d be better off looking for feedback from a room full of mimes than from this rack. The brakes are nothing special, although at least there’s no dead zone in initial pedal travel—when you call on the brakes, you get brakes.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-29   14:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#13)

You're welcome.

Let's go test drive some of these bad-boys - it seems there are lots of solid contenders for you.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-29   14:26:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#13)

The Russians are making a 4 wheel drive vehicle called The Bear.

It gets 18 kilometers to every quart of kerosene! ;)

"“The meek shall inherit the Earth, but not its mineral rights.”___ J. Paul Getty

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-04-29   14:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

We're looking at country property

If you need a well-armed EXPERT marksman [officially] and security/LEO professional, as well as black belt to assist in guarding the retreat premises, I'm available. I'm also an excellent chef which will come in handy in expedient food situations when you need insects and small mammals and fowl to be prepared properly and actually taste palatable. :P [That's a foul bet!]

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-04-29   14:56:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lodwick, christine (#9)

Toyota RAV4 - top rated by CR

That is a good choice.

Many people where I live have them, and we have very rough roads, many unpaved with lots of potholes, tough driving conditions, and they don't break down much, they have a reputation for being very hardy.

Diana  posted on  2007-04-30   2:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Diana, christine, drivers here (#18)

Many people where I live have them, and we have very rough roads, many unpaved with lots of potholes, tough driving conditions, and they don't break down much, they have a reputation for being very hardy.

Good information - from what I've learned, subject property is definitely "off the well beaten path."

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-04-30   13:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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