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Title: Freeway Collapse Bears No Relation To WTC Buildings
Source: www.prisonplanet.com
URL Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/article ... 2007/300407freewaycollapse.htm
Published: Apr 30, 2007
Author: Stop The Lie
Post Date: 2007-04-30 13:21:42 by Mind_Virus
Keywords: None
Views: 254
Comments: 6

Freeway Collapse Bears No Relation To WTC Buildings

Stop The Lie Monday, April 30, 2007

Comment: Debunkers are already using this to attack the 9/11 truth movement in claiming that this explains the collapse of the towers and WTC 7. Syndicated radio host Neil Boortz attacked Alex Jones this morning, claiming that this refutes the controlled demolition hypothesis. In reality, the freeway collapse is completely different and the comparison is ridiculous.

I can already hear defenders of the official account screaming "See, fire can cause a steel structure to collapse-the bridge collapsed!"

Comparing the circumstances surrounding the fire and subsequent partial collapse of this bridge to the circumstances surrounding the fires and subsequent complete collapse of the towers and WTC 7 is flawed from end to end. This fact should be obvious to most people; but let's point out a few things just in case they weren't already noticed.

1. This was an open air environment where flames were able to reach their absolute maximum temperature; white-hot and shooting upwards of 200 feet in the air.

2. Those 200 foot flames were acting on a single support truss that was fastened to the two columns pictured here. That truss (and the connectors that fastened it to the columns) represents a small fraction of the steel that would have been found on a single floor of the towers or WTC 7. So again, far more heat focused on a single truss and no way to redistribute the load once that truss was weakened.

3. You'll notice that despite the intense fires ability to weaken the truss and connectors that there is NO mention of molten metal in the debris. Also, unlike the debris of the towers and WTC 7, it's not likely we're going to hear anything about thermate (specifically used to destroy steel columns) in the bridge debris.

4. You'll notice that the concrete roadway that "pancaked down" on the roadway below did not cause the lower freeway to collapse. Nor has the concrete disintegrated into a fine powder.

5. You'll notice the columns were not torn down by the collapse, nor did they evaporate into thin air, rather they are still standing (having only lost the the truss and connectors that held the roadway to them.)

So to quickly recap:

White-hot 200 foot flames acting on a single truss (and no ability to redistribute the load once weakened.)

No molten metal and certainly no thermate found No column failure No evaporation / pulverization of concrete No "pancake collapse"

-Ending with a paragraph from The 1-hour Guide to 9/11.

For the record, few in the scientific community doubt that it's theoretically possible for a building to experience failure if it is subjected to devastating heat for a sufficient period of time. And additional factors like no fire-proofing, no sprinkler systems, insufficient steel to "bleed off" heat or inferior construction greatly increase the possibility. However, what is "doubted" (or more accurately; considered downright impossible) is that such a failure would resemble anything like what was witnessed on 9/11. -Gradual, isolated, asymmetrical failures spread out over time; perhaps -simultaneous disintegration of all load bearing columns (leaving a pile of neatly folded rubble a few stories high) -no way.

We stand by that assertion. For a more detailed argument see Fire Initiated Collapse - Primary Arguments Against. (5 images)

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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

THANK YOU!!!

christine  posted on  2007-04-30   13:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: DOH! you don't see the pulverization of concrete here like with the Twin Towers (#0)

christine  posted on  2007-04-30   13:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

3. You'll notice that despite the intense fires ability to weaken the truss and connectors that there is NO mention of molten metal in the debris.

I'll know the truth of that statement tomorrow afternoon as I'll be back out there...

Results are late from the sampling we did on Friday right below that point (they want to move dirt, in the way now), and the RE is at this moment periodically calling to chew chunks out of my ass... :-)

"I might have to go do something less stressfull, like core pavement on a busy freeway, at night..."

Axenolith  posted on  2007-04-30   16:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

Also, this was a gasoline fire. Jet engines on large passenger planes do not burn gasoline.

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Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2007-04-30   16:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

I'm reminded of how FDR liked to say that there are no accidents in politcs. This accident at 3:45 AM seems like a way of discrediting the 911 truth movement.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-04-30   16:49:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mind_Virus, red jones (#0) (Edited)

Excellent. Gasoline and kerosene are also quite different. And yes I find the coincidence amazing as well, Red.

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-04-30   17:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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