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Title: $2.89 a gallon in central PA, and going up, up, up...
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Published: May 6, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-05-06 11:11:30 by Jethro Tull
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OK.......can anyone explain to me why I should worry who the real power behind the NWO/global elite is, when we're powerless to control bread and butter aspects of our daily life?
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#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
It is $3.49 in Silicon Valley. The retail price is beyond what the price of a barrel of oil should reflect because of the war scares in the Mideast. But our real problems are twofold. There are too many people in the world and too many people in the USA. If we had only 150,000,000 people we would not have to import oil, violence in the streets would be less, there never would have been a housing bubble and there would be no trade deficit threatening to cut our wages in half. Our second major problem is the fractional reserve banking system. The dollar was designed to collapse and transfer all wealth from thjose who work to Wall Street. I can guarantee you that the dollar will collapse by 12-31-2009. Wages will be cut and the price of gasoline will continue to rise until half the people in the U.S. can no longer afford to drive cars.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Regular is $3.11 here in Farmington, New Mexico. This is a long ways fron the NWO. http://epistemic- forms.com/Chaco-canyon.gif This is a reconstruction of Pueblo Bonito. The ruins os massive cities in the desert. Quite a humbling place. Here it is today. http://whyfiles.o rg/164cannibal/images/chaco_canyon.jpg We also hiked to see the famous pictroglyph that seem to portray the supernova that exploded in 1054. http://www. explorenm.com/hikes/PenascoBlanco/09/supernova.jpg Lotsa hiking, nice to be in a hotel for a few nights.
Great pictures - thanks.
Should have mentioned the pics are not mine.
I’ve lost all patience for conspiracy minded folks who spin us around like tops, well meaning as they might be. We’re facing greed driven by former capitalists, who have morphed into transnational globalists. Their sandbox isn’t confined to these quickly dissolving borders but rather to entire continents. Adam Smith's vision, for them, died in the late 50s.
Then we (they) have revolution. As jaded as I am, I can't see the sheeple not getting pissed off.
Yep. Countries will, in the future not be bordered, but divided up by corporational control. I paid $3.17 a gal to fill the Maverick V8...not driving it much anymore, just enough to keep it running.
Amazing how they move the number up at will, w/o complaint or explaination by the media. They're corporate owned, of course, but where is the point that it simply won't pay for someone to drive 45 miles to work? I guess the Rec. Vehicle business is dead, along w/anything home delivered.
Count yourself lucky .. it's 3.29 here.. the excuse is that a refinery caught fire? Uh we are in very deep sh** if our supply of gasoline for the entire country can be at such risk that ONE refinery taken out will put us int his position... price gouging is basically what this is IMO.
May China could start selling some cheap fuel here? I mean they sell everything else that we buy.
It's more like $2.95 here, in the Poconos. Can you telecommute? I manage to work from home about half of the time. Given the 75-mile one-way ride to the office, this is very helpful for me.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Yes, and the lack of movement from the sheeple means the price will continue to head North. As I said, if we haven't the unity to stop a simple, obvious screwing like this, what is the point in the lengthy discussions of the men behind the curtains? If we can't stop the programs they advance, it doesn't matter who they are.
That would mean lower CO2 emissions which would reverse the global worming. That would kill those who can't afford to drive cars - they will freeze to death.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
You're lucky. I know the Pocono's well; I'm up on I-80 a few times each month of late. Lots of transplanted NY'ers when I was there in the early 90s. Has that trend continued?
I heard that some had to foreclose and leave. I am a bit south of I-80, not on the commute corridor to NYC.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I don't think that we're ever going to understand exactly what the central planners are doing and why they are doing it, and we we sure as hell can't anticipate it. They are using super computers and highly complicated economic models to tell them which economic buttons to push. Right now, with a weak dollar and the inability to raise interest rates to support it, they are taxing us at the pump to keep global demand for (petro)dollars strong. Oil is traded in dollars. It also supports the treasury bond market which is used to finance the massive government spending. Next time you stop for a fill up, remember, there is no free lunch. Sooner or later you are going to pay. Richard W.
I heard that there was a huge real estate scam up there. Suckering in unhappy city dwellers. Even promised them a future commuter train which of course never happened. Richard W.
I heard about that scam 7, 8 years ago. The mortgage companies were in bed with the real estate industry and over assessed property big time. The last I looked the market was back up, but that was more than a year ago. With gas prices what they are, the concept that it's a suburb of NYC is out the window. Translation: lakefront property soon to be reduced drastically.
Lets shrink this hypothesis down a bit. Take the Soviet Union for instance. What did they use to keep the people in check? bread and circuses, cheap food, cheap gas, and high paying jobs? Or a healthy dose of potential starvation? I'm not saying you are wrong, really. You are right that your way would be the better way to keep us peacefully in check, but maybe tyrants don't see that as being true? Most tyrants in the history of mankind have used the healthy dose of starvation to keep their surfs in line.
That's incredible! What became of the Anasazi, I have to wonder? I'm fairly certain that they weren't the same who later roamed the plains and were considered savages by pioneers and their (our) land greedy govt.
It helps me forget her, so the louder the better.... Hey mister, turn it on, turn it up, turn me loose."__Dwight Yoakam
That and plenty of cheap vodka...
wow, those are great pictures!
I don't even know what gas costs here these days. I never look. I mean, I have to buy it. if we had public transportation I would use it, but we don't. so I don't look at the sign and I use a credit card and don't look at the receipt. I'm not pretending the problem doesn't exist - I'm just already freaking out about too many other things. and I don't feel like there's anything I can do about this particular thing. I keep getting emails about some gas-out day where people are not supposed to buy gas for a day. I can't see that as effective, as people will simply fill up the day before.
My psychological tactic is to never allow the tank to drop below 3/4 full - it makes the pain more bearable at the pump - but the bill at month's end is still brutal.
I keep getting emails about some gas-out day where people are not supposed to buy gas for a day. I can't see that as effective, as people will simply fill up the day before. I hear you. Any attempt to change things would take organization, unity and leadership, qualities our side either ignores or lacks. I gave up long ago. When they knock on my door looking for things, I'll react alone in a yet to be determined way.
Food shortages and hunger. That's what juniors ethanol fiasco is all about. Hamburger will be ten bucks a pound when it is available. Doubtful that there will be enough corn for both ethanol and livestock. The price of corn will then make ethanol a non starter but after the damage is done. Bush could not run a baseball team but this idiot thinks he can come up with a national energy policy.
Yep. Road trips are a dream of the past, and look for postage rates to soar, as well as UPS/FEDEX, etc. Hell, it could put a crimp on i-net buying, ebay Amazon, etc.
They are already predicting a big rise in meat prices at the grocery.
Not to mention pizza deliveries (g)
I'm fairly certain that they weren't the same who later roamed the plains and were considered savages by pioneers and their (our) land greedy govt They are the Puebloians of today. Resettled from the four corners area probably due to a hundred year or so drought to Taos, Acoma, San Ildefonso etc, as town (Pueblo)dwellers. It was the Apaches who were the fairly wild nomads allong with all the sub groups speaking Abthabaskan language, migrating from Canada to the South West, loosely from the early 1500's. Najavos came later (1650's?)and were much more pastorial. The Pueblo nation are most likely descendents of the original Amerindians who migrated here 10,000 yo. So the Anazazi really didn't go much of anywhere, just abandoned the untenable cities of the southwest. The modern Pueblo Indians certainly have no doubt about their Anazazi ancestorship, none whatsoever. The above is not necssarly what happened, as the knowledge is really pretty limited, but seem to be to be the current best guess of the experts.
Yes. It is just silly. Even a boycott of a paticular oil co is not likely to be effective because of the cross contracts that exist in all major markets. IOW - you can think you are boycotting say Texaco, but at the Conoco station you may very well be buying Texaco fuel marketed by a Conoco station.
Interesting post. But, untenable, why?
No one had a perfect answer - drought seems to be the driver. One of the many mysteries of the South West.
We are down .09 cents from last weeks high of $3.25....
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Ah....the corporate borg met resistance? They must have noticed a drop in sales at the additional 9 cents. $3.25 a gal. seems to be the max they can squeeze out of you and your neighbors. For the moment, at least.
I'm sure that there is a computer figuring out just the right price to maximise profits. Richard W.
for sure. nothing a multinational does is by happenstance.
The prices have gone up for a simple reason: They can get away with it.
Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.
That price set the local record. Last highest price paid (last summer) was $3.19.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
You have just stated the essence of the market. If nobody is compelled to pay, (and in a market no one is) they must have a better alternative. The other side of the market equation is if someone provides a similar service or product for a lesser price, the higher price marketeers will find fewer customers for their merchandise. Im my rainy and windy and snowy filled vacation to Chaco Canyon recently I had ample time to study "Fernad Bruweldells" (sp) "Wheels of Commerce" Though a high minded toumb indeed, many of his insights I could relate to in my very humble management of a liquor store in Colorado Springs. Money velocity for exmple, was only thought abought in the 1720"s.
The postal rate going up 40% is worrisome.
#5. To: Jethro Tull, christine, zipporah, diana, tommythemadartist, wbales, kiki, (#0)
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#6. To: tom007 (#5)
#7. To: All, lodwick (#5)
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#8. To: YertleTurtle, all (#2)
Instead, what we have are a bunch of competing special-interest groups, each trying to gain control of the government. That's a far cry from the NWO/Illuminati/Masons/British bankers nonsense.
#9. To: Horse (#4)
Wages will be cut and the price of gasoline will continue to rise until half the people in the U.S. can no longer afford to drive cars.
#10. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
We’re facing greed driven by former capitalists, who have morphed into transnational globalists. Their sandbox isn’t confined to these quickly dissolving borders but rather to entire continents. Adam Smith's vision, for them, died in the late 50s.
#11. To: Sodie Pop (#10)
I paid $3.17 a gal to fill the Maverick V8
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#13. To: All (#12)
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#15. To: (#12)
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price gouging is basically what this is IMO.
#16. To: Horse (#4)
Wages will be cut and the price of gasoline will continue to rise until half the people in the U.S. can no longer afford to drive cars.
#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#14)
I manage to work from home about half of the time.
#18. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#19. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
Lots of transplanted NY'ers when I was there in the early 90s. Has that trend continued?
#21. To: Arete (#20)
#22. To: YertleTurtle (#2)
If there really was a powerful global conspiracy they would keep everyone happy with bread and circuses, with cheap food and cheap gas and good-paying jobs. But they can't, because they don't exist.
Enemies of the Republic
#23. To: tom007 (#5)
#24. To: Critter. YT. JT. all (#22)
Or a healthy dose of potential starvation?
#25. To: tom007 (#5)
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#27. To: kiki. all (#26)
#28. To: kiki (#26)
I'm just already freaking out about too many other things. and I don't feel like there's anything I can do about this particular thing.
#29. To: Critter (#22)
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
Rec. Vehicle business is dead, along w/anything home delivered.
#31. To: willyone (#29)
enough corn for both ethanol and livestock
#32. To: Sodie Pop (#30)
#33. To: HOUNDDAWG (#23)
What became of the Anasazi, I have to wonder?
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#34. To: kiki (#26)
some gas-out day where people are not supposed to buy gas for a day. I can't see that as effective, as people will simply fill up the day before.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#35. To: tom007 (#33)
"...just abandoned the untenable cities of the southwest."
#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)
But, untenable, why?
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#38. To: Brian S (#37)
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
#40. To: Arete (#39)
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
$2.89 a gallon in central PA, and going up, up, up...
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#38)
$3.25 a gal. seems to be the max they can squeeze out of you and your neighbors. For the moment, at least.
#43. To: bluedogtxn, indrid cold, diana, robin, tommthemad artist, (#41)
The prices have gone up for a simple reason: They can get away with it.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#44. To: tom007 (#43)
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