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Title: Democrat's war policy: they win; we lose
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/lamb050707.htm
Published: May 7, 2007
Author: Henry Lamb
Post Date: 2007-05-07 11:34:08 by BeAChooser
Keywords: None
Views: 268
Comments: 26

Vietnam, Iraq, withdrawing American troops

Democrat's war policy: they win; we lose

By Henry Lamb

Monday, May 7, 2007

It probably should not come as a surprise, since many of the same people did the same thing during the Vietnam war, but it certainly is a sad commentary on the state of political affairs when a presidential candidate stands before a cheering crowd and calls for the defeat of American forces in the midst of war.

Barack Obama told his admirers that "we are only one signature away from ending this war." And the people cheered. He is actually saying, "we are only one signature away from waving the white flag of surrender." Should the president accept the Democrat's demand for a date-certain schedule for withdrawing American troops, it would be a national declaration of defeat - and a national disgrace.

This disgraceful sentiment rests not on Obama's shoulders; he is simply playing to the crowd that already wants to surrender, regardless of the consequences. Senator Harry Reid, the highest-ranking Democrat in the Senate, has already declared that "the war is lost." Congressman John Murtha is trying to convince people that once American forces surrender, the natives will quit fighting, and all will be well in the world.

What happened to Ronald Reagan's policy during the cold war: "...we win, they lose." America's - indeed, the world's war against terrorism - is as real, and as dangerous as the cold war was a generation ago. If Democrats get their way, America's policy to be: "...they win, we lose."

Many of the people who line up behind the Democrat's position are so blinded by their hatred for George Bush, that they cannot see dangers that would certainly arise in the aftermath of America's premature withdrawal from Iraq. Any sincere appraisal of the consequences of America's premature withdrawal would have to recognize that Iraq would fall, once again, under the control of forces determined to destroy America, whether Sunni, Shia, or Al Qeada.

The new controlling power would likely be worse than Saddam Hussein, and definitely a greater threat to America and her allies. Iraq would become the new pre-war Afghanistan - the center for training terrorists. With Syria to the West and Iran to the East, the entire region could easily fall to the dominance of Islamic extremists.

Nearly 11 million Iraqis said they wanted a representative government based on the Constitution they wrote. This is an undeniable display of the desires of the Iraqi people. It is the Islamic extremists who realize that their power cannot survive, nor their fantasies be realized, under this kind of representative government. But the desires of the people cannot survive, nor their dreams realized, under the scourge of Islamic extremism. American coalition forces are the only hope Iraqis have to achieve the freedom for which they so bravely voted.

George Bush may well deserve criticism for the way the war has been conducted; his vision, and his goal, however, should be applauded. If, and it is a very big if, America can hold off the Islamaniacs long enough for the elected representatives to create a functioning government, civilization will move forward substantially. On the other hand, if the Democrats succeed in forcing the premature withdrawal of American forces from Iraq, the defeat will set back civilization, and fan the flames of terrorism around the world.

Capture Bush's vision of an Iraq with an elected representative government - an American ally situated between Syria and Iran. A government that does not have to contend with daily attacks of suicide bombers, and roadside bombs, could devote its resources to upgrading the infrastructure that Saddam let deteriorate. Children could go to school. Merchants could go to their markets - with a reasonable expectation of returning home safely. People could begin to realize what it means to be free from Saddam's despotic rule, and free from the maniacal militias that kill and maim for the benefit of America's TV audience.

Were such a government to take root in the Tigris-Euphrates valley (the cradle of civilization), the fruits of freedom would fall beyond the borders of Iraq. Young Muslims would have an alternative to the hopeless cycle of Islamic extremism. New freedoms could dispel the myth of martyrdom, as young Muslim boys discover that even a kiss on the cheek of a real live girl is far better than the promise of 72 virgins - after the explosion.

There is no way to calculate the benefits to the people, and to the world, of an elected representative government functioning in Iraq. Neither is there a way to calculate the pain, suffering, death and chaos of Iraq under the control of Al Qeada. Democrats don't seem to be concerned about either of these outcomes. Their only concern appears to be to see how fast America can surrender.

Henry Lamb is the executive vice president of the Environmental Conservation Organization (ECO), and chairman of Sovereignty International. Henry Lamb can be reached at: henry@freedom.org

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#1. To: BeAChooser (#0)

What's wrong with wanting to end this abortion?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-07   11:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BeAChooser (#0)

The new controlling power would likely be worse than Saddam Hussein

Many of us were saying before he was toppled that Saddam Hussein was about as good as it was ever going to get - a secular despot who massacred Islamists who even halfway threatened his rule, but DID allow women's rights and even tolerated Christianity (although if any of them had begun to act "Christianist" a la Pat Robertson, they, too, would no doubt have been liquidated a la the Branch Davidians in this country).

In short, the same sort of secular strongman Washington, D.C., has been searching for, so far in vain, as a replacement since April 2003.

The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2007-05-07   12:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Sam Houston. JT. all (#2)

As Mike Gravel noted in the dem debate: "We lost Iraq the moment that we went in."

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   12:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Gravel Kicks ASS -

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   12:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lodwick (#4)

He nails it. And it isn't like the Ds didn't give Prince George the authorty nation build, but who can blame them for dumping on the Rs? The war is over and we lost. Badly.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-07   12:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#4)

Gravel addresses the DNC - sweet

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   12:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BeAChooser (#0)

Judas Priest, succubus. You are so thickheaded and obviously conscienceless. You and your fellow neocons continue the same war rhetoric and the same blame the democrats bullshit no matter the obvious failure of this war. Yeah, keep "bringing 'em on," eh? It's not lamb's or BeAChooser's blood being spilt afterall.

Nostalgia  posted on  2007-05-07   12:54:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Nostalgia (#7)

You and your fellow neocons continue the same war rhetoric and the same blame the democrats bullshit no matter the obvious failure of this war. Yeah, keep "bringing 'em on," eh?

bump it

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   12:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: BeAChooser (#0)

Remember the advice from the GOP of 1972!

When all arguments to justify the war have been exposed as lies, and when the goobers no longer believe the propaganda engines, and when the rest of the world laughs up their collective cuffs as the US President is exposed as a common criminal - revive the domino theory!

Instead of telling the goobs that all of Southeast Asia will fall to to the boogeyman if the loss of the war isn't pushed off onto the next administration, tell the goobers that the whole middle east will fall to the bogeyman if the war isn't pushed off onto the next administration.

While you are at it, leak some silly and unsupported WMD stories in the goob fooler press. There are still some gullible morons among the 28% that still buy this crap.

.

...  posted on  2007-05-07   13:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ..., Nostalgia, all (#9)

Gravel in the Situation Room -

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   13:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull. all (#5)

The war is over and we lost. Badly.

A sick stupid situation created by sick stupid individuals.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   13:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BeAChooser (#0)

Democrat's war policy: they win; we lose

It's better than the Republicans policy: Chevron and Texaco win, Americans lose.

Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-07   13:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: ... (#9)

Revive the domino theory!

More like Hitler's "stabbed in the back" theory after WWI. The "R"s are just as desperate the shift the entire blame of the failed war to the opposite party when there is plenty of blame to go around to everyone.

However, the "D"s held the white house when Korea and Vietnam were kicked off. Gulf war II started with the "R"s holding the White house and both the house and senate. Yes, "D"s helped them along, but in the mind of the average American Dubya's war is the doing of the GOP. Hence they are more deserate than ever to shift the blame to the opposite party and trot out the "hippies cost us the war" line.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2007-05-07   13:58:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ... (#9)

Remember the advice from the GOP of 1972!

Uh huh. Good nailing of the succubus.

Nostalgia  posted on  2007-05-07   14:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BeAChooser (#0)

Glenn Greenwald has a good column this We Win They Lose stuff: Have Bill Frist and right-wing bloggers plagiarized their new Iraq plan?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-05-07   15:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine, Zipporah, robin, All, Is there a Priest in the house? (#0)

4um is in need of an exorcism!!!

Nostalgia  posted on  2007-05-07   15:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Nostalgia, Coral Snake, Greg Szymanski, Fr. O'Mally, the Flying Nuns, et al (#16)

I could probably help by securing the services of a member of my Jesuit army, but I think we're dealing with a common Dick Head rather than a straight up succubus.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-07   16:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lodwick (#10)

It's nice to hear someone tell the truth.

Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-07   16:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Nostalgia, Jethro Tull (#16)

lol

christine  posted on  2007-05-07   16:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: The Poster of This Article, EnemiesoftheRepublic, Treasonous Neocons (#0)

The Inexplicable Enrichment of Bush Cronies

The Iraq Money Trail

By Evelyn Pringle

04/17/08 "ICH " -- -- - It's time for Americans to face the cold hard truth that nothing will be accomplished by allowing the daily carnage in Iraq to continue, and if Bush has his way, our young people will be dying in this war profiteering scheme until hell freezes over. Congress needs to authorize funding to pull our troops out of that deathtrap and not one dime more.

It apparent that Bush is a madman who will listen to no one. After Bush's speech on January 10, 2007, about the plan to send more troops, retired Army Col Doug McGreggor, a former advisor to Don Rumsfeld in 2003, said in a broadcast interview, "There seems to be a complete failure to understand that we have been trying to suppress a rebellion against our occupation."

"As long as we are there," he warned, "we are the number one public enemy for the Muslim-Arab world."

"We were after all," he points out, "a Christian army occupying a Muslim Arab country, something which in the Middle East, is essentially a disaster."

This decorated combat veteran says Bush's strategy will never work. "We did not go to Iraq originally," he explains, "to dismantle the state, dismantle the army, the police, and the government, to occupy the place with the object of changing the people that lived there into something they did not want to become."

After Bush's speech, military families also spoke out publicly against the decision to send more troops. "I don't have words for it," said Nancy Lessin, of Military Families Speak Out, a group of 3,100 families, including 100 who have lost a loved one in the war.

"This is a war," she said, "that should never have happened, that has wreaked so much havoc on our loved ones, Iraqi children, women and men, and now to be facing, almost four years into it, this news of an escalation of the war, is just unbearable."

An Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed that 70% of Americans opposed sending more troops, but Bush went right ahead and did it anyways. And then to make matters worse, this month he announces the plan to extend the 12-month tours to 15-months to allow his 30,000-troop buildup in Baghdad to stay for another year.

This war is going to bankrupt the US. A January 2007 study by Columbia University economist Joseph Stiglitz, who won a Nobel Prize in economics in 2001, and Harvard lecturer Linda Bilmes, estimated that the total costs of the Iraq war could be more than $2 trillion when the long-term medical costs for the soldiers injured so far are factored in.

The only people who are benefiting from Bush's war on terror are members of the Military Industrial Complex. Since 9/11, the pay for the CEOs of the top 34 defense contractors in the US has doubled, according to the August 2006 report, "Executive Excess 2006," by the Institute for Policy Studies, and the United for a Fair Economy.

The bill is rising so fast because the level of war profiteering is unprecedented. The Excess Report lists George David, CEO of United Technologies, as the top earner, making more than $200 million since 9/11, despite investigations into the poor quality of the firm's Black Hawk helicopters.

Halliburton CEO David Lesar made $26.6 million in 2005, and nearly $50 million since 9/11, an amount that even beats the $24 million that Dick Cheney received in exchange for the guarantee that Halliburton would be the number one military contractor during the Bush administration.

Cheney himself is also taking in war profits, contrary to what he told Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" in 2003, when he denied making any money off his former employer. "Since I left Halliburton to become George Bush's vice president," he said, "I've severed all my ties with the company, gotten rid of all my financial interest."

"I have no financial interest in Halliburton," Cheney told Tim, "of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."

Those statements were proven false when financial disclosure forms showed that Cheney had received a deferred salary from Halliburton of $205,298 in 2001, $262,392 in 2002, $278,437 in 2003, and $294,852 in 2004.

In 2005, an analysis released by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), reported that Cheney continued to hold over 300,000 Halliburton stock options and said their value had risen 3,281% over the previous year, from $241,498 to more than $8 million.

"It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it," Senator Lautenberg said.

Cheney may be the most visible profiteer to those who find it difficult to follow the war on terror money trail, but many other members of the administration with insider knowledge set themselves up to profit early on as well.

For instance, there was the Undersecretary of Defense, Doug Feith, largely credited for fabricating the tales that got the US into the war to begin with, along with his fellow neocons and best buddy, Ahmed Chalabi.

Feith was a partner with Marc Zell, in the Feith & Zell, DC law firm before joining the administration. After he left for the White House, Zell renamed the firm, Zell, Goldberg & Co, and teamed up with Salem Chalabi, Ahmed nephew, to solicit contracts for clients in Iraq. This scam operated under the name, "Iraqi International Law Group."

At the time, the National Journal quoted Salem as saying that Marc Zell was the firm's "marketing consultant" and had been contacting law firms in Washington and New York to ask if they had clients interested in doing business in Iraq.

According to its web site back then, the IILG was made up of lawyers and businessmen who "dared to take the lead in bringing private sector investment and experience" to the war-torn country and offered to "be your Professional Gateway to the New Iraq."

"The simple fact is," the site stated, "you cannot adequately advise about Iraq unless you are here day in and day out, working closely with officials at the CPA, the newly constituted governing council and the few functioning civilian ministries [oil, labor and social welfare, etc]."

It is highly likely that the preceding statement was absolutely true when made because Feith helped set up the Coalition Provisional Authority in May 2003, with its leader Paul Bremer, and Feith's office and the CPA were in charge of awarding reconstruction contracts with Iraqi money.

For his part, Salem was a legal adviser to Iraq's governing council, of which his Uncle was a member, and Bremer even tried to appoint him to lead the tribunal that would try Saddam.

Uncle Chabali footprints in the profiteering racket can be traced back to September 2003, when the CPA awarded an $80 million contract to Nour USA, a company with ties to Winston Partners, which is a whole other story in itself because Winston Partners is headed by none other than Marvin Bush, the brother to the president.

In May 2003, Nour was founded by, Abul Huda Farouki, whose financial ties to Ahmed Chalabi date back to 1989, when Chalabi was CEO of the Petra Bank, and helped Farouqi finance projects around the world.

Nour's website at the time described the firm as an "international investment and development company" with more than 100 employees based in Iraq, and listed expertise in telecommunications, agribusiness, internet development, recruitment, construction materials, oil and power services, pharmaceuticals and fashion apparel.

In January 2004, Nour picked up another contract to equip the Iraqi armed forces and police worth $327 million. However, shortly thereafter, Nour came under fire when a shady deal surfaced involving the first $80 million contract and Ahmed Chalabi.

Newsday reported that Chalabi had received $2 million for helping to arrange the contract, but as it turned out, the contract was actually awarded to Erinys International, a firm set up in Iraq immediately after the invasion. The problem arose, Newsday said, because within days of receiving the contract, Erinys became a joint venture operation with Nour.

Next, the $327 million contract was in jeopardy after it was revealed that Nour had no experience providing military equipment and Nour claimed that it planned to subcontract its weapons procurement to Ostrowski Arms. However, the army soon learned that Ostowski had no license to export weapons.

The contract was finally axed in March 2004, after six of the 17 firms that bid on it complained that Nour's winning bid was impossibly low.

Following the money trail on this insider deal turned up the names of a few more suspects. According to the National Journal, a Nour executive said the Cohen Group "introduced us to people in the U.S. government who were involved in oil-industry security."

Former Republican Congressman and Secretary of Defense under President Clinton, William Cohen, sits at the helm of the Cohen Group, and according to a report by David Hilzenrath in the Washington Post on May 28, 2006, when he left office in January 2001, Cohen was saddled with debt and his final financial disclosure form, "listed tens of thousands of dollars of charge-account debts at interest rates as high as about 25 percent."

However, within a matter of weeks Cohen and his wife were residing in a $3.5 million mansion. It seems Cohen had wanted this house but was still in office and had no way to finance the purchase, so Frank Zarb, then chairman of the Nasdaq Stock Market, sold the house to Michael Ansari, chairman and CEO of defense contractor MIC Industries, in October 2000, and the Cohen took up residence in January or February of 2001, according to the Post.

From there, Cohen went on to join the board and audit committee of the Nasdaq Stock Market, and 11 days after he left office, MIC announced Cohen's appointment as chairman of its board of advisers in a press release.

In no time at all the Cohen Group was raking in mega-bucks. In applying for one contract, that earned the Group $490,000 over seven months, the firm bragged that it had helped Lockheed win a $3.6 billion contract for the sale of F-16 fighter jets to Poland, financed by the US government.

The Group's proposal said its efforts for the Lockheed deal included "advocacy with key decision-makers in the White House, Office of the Vice President, National Security Council, Department of Defense and the State Department during an 18-month campaign," according to the Post.

In regard to helping Nour get contracts in Iraq, according to the Post, where the government disclosure form for Nour asks the firm to identify "Specific lobbying issues," the Group's filings say: "Exploring overseas business opportunities."

When it comes to war profiteering, members of the Bush administration have given a whole new meaning to the "revolving door." A whole gang of thugs has been robbing us blind in Iraq since day one and nobody seems to be able to stop it.

Congress knows what's going on. Back on September 30, 2003, during the Senate debate over the first Iraq spending bill, Senator John Edwards said he refused to funnel the $87 billion to Cheney and other Bush cronies after learning that Bush's former campaign manager, Joe Allbaugh, who was later appointed to head FEMA, had quit his job 3 weeks before the bombs began to fall in Iraq to start the consulting firm, New Bridge Strategies, for clients seeking contracts in Iraq.

"First, Vice President Cheney's Halliburton receives more than $2 billion in Iraq reconstruction contracts," he said, "and now this."

He called it outrageous and disrespectful to the young people serving in Iraq. "President Bush should start addressing this credibility gap by calling on Joe Allbaugh and his friends to stop using their influence to secure government contracts in Iraq," he said.

Senator Edwards said there used to be talk about money for Iraq being a blank check but we now "know the president is writing it out to Joe Allbaugh and Halliburton and it's all endorsed by Vice President Cheney," he said.

In hindsight, Edwards should have expressed outrage at a few more people because the profiteering team at New Bridges was stacked with Republicans. The company's address was the same as a lobbying firm run by Haley Barbour, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee that went under the name of Barbour Griffith & Rogers.

And as luck would have it, Lanny Griffith was the CEO of New Bridge, and Ed Rogers was the vice president.

The firm's initial web site told potential clients, "the opportunities evolving in Iraq today are of such an unprecedented nature and scope that no other existing firm has the necessary skills and experience to be effective both in Washington, D.C., and on the ground in Iraq."

And these greedy thugs were so shameless that they didn't even try to hide their elation over all the money they planned to make in Iraq. "Getting the rights to distribute Procter & Gamble products can be a gold mine," one of the firm's partners told Naomi Klein, quoted in an article in Harper's Magazine in September 2004.

"One well-stocked 7-Eleven," the partner said, "could knock out thirty Iraqi stores; a Wal-Mart could take over the country."

There were rumors that a McDonald's might open, a Starwood hotel was mentioned, and General Motors was said to be planning a factory and according to Ms Klein, Citigroup was preparing to offer loans guaranteed against future sales of Iraqi oil.

However since the war never did end, in 2004, Joe Allbaugh abandoned the quest for reconstruction gold mine in Iraq and started a consulting firm with the former director of Cheney's secret energy task force, Andrew Lundquist, and their first client was Lockheed Martin.

The marriage between the ex-campaign manager, Cheney's buddy, and Lockheed apparently worked out much better than the plan to build 7-Elevens in Iraq, because Lockheed stock value has doubled since 2001, and according to the Excess Report, the firm's CEO has made $50 million since 9/11.

It may well have been that Joe's new firm was simply an outgrowth from the many other firms set up by this same gang because Haley Barbour had already worked as a lobbyist for a Lockheed.

On thing is certain, Lockheed was not lacking for administration insiders when Allbaugh came knocking. For instance, before Cheney took over as VP, his wife, Lynne served on the board of Lockheed, receiving deferred compensation to the tune of half a million dollars in stock and fees, according to a January 16, 2007 report by Richard Cummings.

Cummings notes that Cheney's "2004 financial disclosure statement lists Lockheed stock options and $50,000 in Lockheed stock."

In addition, Cheney's son-in-law, Philip Perry, Cummings says, was appointed to serve as general counsel to the Department of Homeland Security, and he had been a registered lobbyist for Lockheed who had worked for a law firm representing Lockheed with the Department of Homeland Security.

According to Cummings, less than a month after 9/11, in October of 2001, the Pentagon announced a $20 billion contract for Lockheed for the development of the Joint Strike Fighter, called the F-35. At the time, Edward Aldridge was Undersecretary of Defense for acquisitions, technology and logistics, which was responsible for the approval of the contract. Aldridge left his government post in 2003, and he now just happens to serve on Lockheed's board of directors.

However, the most stunning revelation in the Cummings report, is that in November 2002, Stephen Hadley, deputy national security advisor at the time, called Lockheed employee, Bruce Jackson, to a meeting at the White House and told him that the US was definitely going to war in Iraq but there was one small hitch, the administration could not decide what reason to use to justify it.

So Jackson formed the "Committee for the Liberation of Iraq," and its mission statement said it was "formed to promote regional peace, political freedom and international security by replacing the Saddam Hussein regime with a democratic government that respects the rights of the Iraqi people and ceases to threaten the community of nations."

According to Cummings, the "pressure group began pushing for regime change - that is, military action to remove Hussein - in the usual Washington ways, lobbying members of congress, working with the media and throwing money around."

Jackson told Cummings that he did not see the point of going on about WMDs or an Al Queda link because he thought the human rights issue was enough to justify the war.

However, Hadley did not agree. "The committee's pitch," Cummings says, "or rationale as Hadley would call it, was that Saddam was a monster -- routinely violating human rights -- and a general menace in the Middle East."

Jackson said he closed down the Committee in June 2003 because its human rights rationale had been abandoned. "We were cut out," he told Cummings, "after the whole thing went to Rumsfeld," and Hadley explained that "terrorism and WMDs" were now the rationale for the war, not human rights.

However, Cummings reports that members of the war sales team that served with Jackson have done well for themselves. The president of the Committee, Randy Scheunemann, became the president of the Mercury Group, and lobbied for Lockheed and others, and then set up the firms, Scheunemann and Associates, and Orion Strategies, which, among other things, consults with companies and countries looking to do business in Iraq.

In November 2003, another Committee member, Rend Al-Rahim Francke, was appointed Iraqi ambassador to the US.

Meanwhile back in Iraq goldmine, the Iraqis have nothing to show for all the torture that they have endured for the past 4 years. On average, Iraqis still get only about two hours of electricity a day, and the situation won't be improving anytime soon because the US has not built a single major power plant.

And despite the $22 billion funneled to the war profiteers for reconstruction, a US official recently said, Baghdad may not have continuous 24-hour electricity until the year 2013.

For the people drawn to Iraq to fight against the occupation, this is not a war against Americans; it's a war against Bush. He tore this country apart for no reason and then just as the Iraqis predicted, the greedy gang of thugs swooped in and ripped everybody off.

And there is no reason to believe that the thievery has ended or the situation in Iraq will get better because an audit released on January 31, 2007, by Inspector General, Stuart Bowen, reported that the $300 billion war and reconstruction effort continues to be plagued with waste and corruption, and yet Bush now wants us to hand over another $100 billion to be funneled through Iraq to the exact same gangsters.

We will never win in Iraq no matter how long we stay because the other side will always have more people willing to die for the cause, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if the number of daily attacks continues to escalate as they have for the last 4 years, the US will run out of troops before they do.

christine  posted on  2007-05-07   16:29:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#20)

Great piece, Christine. Did you independently post it, too?

Paranoia is a survival trait in a Decidership.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-07   16:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: christine (#20)

We will never win in Iraq no matter how long we stay because the other side will always have more people willing to die for the cause, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that if the number of daily attacks continues to escalate as they have for the last 4 years, the US will run out of troops before they do.

Thank you, Colonel, but for shit sakes - this has been out there for years, now.

Welcome to the truth party.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-07   21:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lodwick (#22) (Edited)

Another poem from my daughter's friend stationed in Iraq. Heartbreaking. (Link to forum where I saw this.)

I and You Sunday, May 06, 2007

I am in hell
Hell is before me, hell is the street I am walking on, hell is the place I currently am
You are in wonderland
Wonderland is far from my obscured view, nice, pleasant, every day a day
without a death or the sound of gunfire
I am not doing so well
Hours of sleep this week is the total of five fingers, no thumbs, I am numb, I am beyond being on autopilor
You are doing great
You do not have to wake up suddenly in the night with 537 lifeless faces staring back at you, you see smiles where you are
I am balancing upon the fine line between the downside to life and the pit of deep darkness, I miss my own smile, I miss "me"
You get to walk straight lines, to the left, to the right, you have a clean bill of health, your mind is pure of the blackness
I am walking down a path of darkness
You see the clear path before you
I and you
We should be one

http://www.opendiary.com/entrylist.asp? authorcode=D621051 (other poems by this soldier)

"To: Jim Robinson -- "Well I remember the day when you thought George W Bush was unfit for office and a cokehead so you’ll have to forgive me if I hold my own opinions about Rudy’s fitness for the presidency." -- by Peach (Banned)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-05-07   21:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#20)

Help Me Tuesday, May 08, 2007

Help me
You there, pick him up and carry him away from the gunfire
Hey, mister, do not go that way, there is many booms over there
Hi mister, please stay here, too scarey over there
Help me
Hurry up, we might lose him
I've got a bleeder here, I am coming your way
Shit, we lost him
Help me
Praise be Allah, you are safe
God willing I will be here with you to make sure you wake up and see the sunrise
Oh my god that was close
Help me
Someone get on the damn radio, there is a .................................................. (sentence never finished, unfortunately)
Would you take a look at that? You have a lot of blood running down your back,
is that yours or the child you just carried?
Hey my friend, come here, let me shove that AK-47 where the sun doesn't shine
Help me
Wow, that was a big one, someone isn't going to be happy Close your eyes my child, it is ok, just hold on close to me, the bad men will
be gone real soon....sssshhhhhhhh
Stupid me
Help me

http://www.opendiary.com/entryview.asp ?authorcode=D621051&entry=10463&mode=date

"To: Jim Robinson -- "Well I remember the day when you thought George W Bush was unfit for office and a cokehead so you’ll have to forgive me if I hold my own opinions about Rudy’s fitness for the presidency." -- by Peach (Banned)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-05-07   22:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine, ALL (#20)

It's time for Americans to face the cold hard truth that nothing will be accomplished by allowing the daily carnage in Iraq to continue,

There are multiple fallacies in this statement.

First, why does the author think the carnage in Iraq will end just because we surrender? It is widely recognized now that al-Qaeda, not Iraqis, are behind most of the bombings. What makes the author think that al-Qaeda will leave, just because we do? They've openly stated their wish is to turn Iraq into a country patterned after what the Taliban did to Afghanistan. They certainly were using that model in Falluja. So even if we leave, the killing will continue in Iraq ... and probably get much worse.

Second, what makes the author think that our cutting and running won't embolden al-Qaeda to try the same tactic in another locale? Surrender in Iraq, when the outcome is definitely not decided and our military thinks we can still win, will certainly show a complete lack of will on our part. Besides, the author's logic that "the US will run out of troops before they do" applies anywhere. Right? So surrender in Iraq implies we will surrender anywhere, if confronted by al-Qaeda.

Will Afghanistan be next? After we run from Iraq, perhaps al-Qaeda will increase their efforts in Afghanistan? And why wouldn't we cut and run from there for the same reasons? Afterall, Afghanistan is geopolitically and economically far less important that Iraq. If shedding American lives to establish a democratic and western leaning republic is not worth doing in Iraq, it certainly isn't worth spending American blood to do in Afghanistan. Right?

And after that? They'll focus on destabilizing and bringing down any governments in the region that are friendly to the US and the West. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Jordan. al-Qaeda has openly stated they want to bring down the west and establish islamic republics everywhere. So if you surrender in Iraq, when your military leaders are telling you that we can still win, al-Qaeda is sure to think we have no will and will surrender no matter where they attack next. So running from Iraq will not end the carnage but, in fact, increase it elsewhere.

But then, perhaps the ONLY concern of the author (and those complimenting her views) is the death of American soldiers and the waste of US funds in Iraq. So let's examine whether surrendering in Iraq will actually reduced either.

There is something overlooked in the article. A recognition that we are at war on a global scale with forces that have an ideology that does not allow for mutual coexistence and (if the author is correct) have more people willing to die for their cause than we have people to defend ours. Al-Qaeda calls for replacing the West's political and religious structures with islamic theocracies. And there seems to be significant support within the muslim world for this goal if you believe the polls (even in places like London), the statements of their religious leaders and the place religion has in their governments. Running from Iraq is not going to change that situation for the better. It will only embolden our opponents.

Instead of fighting them intensely in a few locales, we may soon be facing challenges in dozens of places. Once they learn that their tactic of mass bombings can bring a great power like the US to its knees, they will surely try the tactic elsewhere. Will we run from those challenges if that happens? Because if we don't, American soldiers will surely die and we will spend resources fighting those doing it. Who is to say that even more won't die than are now dying in Iraq?

Before the invasion, al-Qaeda planned a mass casualty attack on Jordan and the US embassy in Amman from Baghdad. The goal of that attack was to kill tens of thousands of Jordanians and everyone in the US embassy. If al-Qaeda is able to establish safe havens where such attacks can be meticulously thought out and trained for (as they were doing in the camps in Afghanistan before we invaded there), how can you be confident (given the statements of al-Qaeda) that we won't see many more such mass casualty attacks?

If al-Qaeda is able to get access to oil resources, that funding may allow them to purchase weapons of mass destruction in the black market. Or develop it themselves. And if they have it, do any of you honestly think they wouldn't use it? And then what will you advise we do? Surrender to whatever demands they are then making? Bomb Mecca?

"As long as we are there," he warned, "we are the number one public enemy for the Muslim-Arab world."

This statement overlooks the fact that before the US invaded Iraq, al-Qaeda already viewed us as enemy number one and polls showed that a very large portion of the Muslim-Arab world already viewed us as public enemy number one. So what isn't acknowledged in the article is that the hatred a large portion of the population has for us and the West is not due to Iraq. It is due to much wider policies than that.

In which case, to eliminate that source of hatred, what will we have to do? What do you folks advise? That we withdraw all our forces from the Muslim-Arab world? That would, of course, include Israel. Right? Tell me, what percentage of the population in a given country or region has to be Muslim-Arab before its considered part of the Muslim-Arab world? Indications are that al-Qaeda doesn't consider that to require a very large percentage. So tell me as specifically as you can, what countries in the world do you advise the US and West withdraw all its forces from? In the interests of harmony with the islamofanatics ...

And it's not just military forces that are the problem. The fanatical leaders of al-Qaeda object to the influence of Western culture as well. And Western companies too. So what countries in the world do you want the West to put off limits to tourism, business and sale of its corrupting, western products? Because the way I see it, that's the ONLY action that would satisfy the islamofanatics behind the WOT.

This war is going to bankrupt the US. A January 2007 study by Columbia University economist Joseph Stiglitz, who won a Nobel Prize in economics in 2001, and Harvard lecturer Linda Bilmes, estimated that the total costs of the Iraq war could be more than $2 trillion when the long-term medical costs for the soldiers injured so far are factored in.

NONSENSE. This was is not going to bankrupt the US. $2 trillion dollars over 20 or 30 years is a small FRACTION of our total economy. And those $2 trillion dollars may save costs far in excess of that. What would be the cost of a successful WMD attack by islamofanatics on the US? Some economists have indicated that 9/11 cost the US nearly a trillion dollars in direct and indirect damages. What would be the cost of fighting insurgencies in a dozen countries (which may be the result of surrending in Iraq)? Probably far in excess of $2 trillion dollars. The problem with the anti-war movement is they never want to honestly examine the potential benefits of winning in Iraq and the costs of losing or having done nothing about Saddam.

The only people who are benefiting from Bush's war on terror are members of the Military Industrial Complex. Since 9/11, the pay for the CEOs of the top 34 defense contractors in the US has doubled

This is just more nonsense. Just last year CEOs of the 500 biggest companies got an average 38% pay raise over the year previous (http://www.forbes.com/2007/05/03/ceo-executive-compensation-lead-07ceo-cx_sd_0503ceocompensationintro.html ). Is Apple computer a defense contractor? Theirs was the highest paid executive. How about Occidental Petroleum? IAC/Interactive Corp? Fidelity National Financial? Yahoo? Those were the next biggest four. Given the above, I will bet that the pay for CEOs in many areas of our economy ... not just defense ... have doubled since 9/11. Instead of trying to draw erroneous conclusions because she won't look at the bigger picture, the author should be happy that the economy has performed so well ... especially given that it was in recession when Bush took office, it suffered the effects of 9/11 and Katrina, and given the ongoing costs to keep islamofanatics from doing worse harm to it.

The bill is rising so fast because the level of war profiteering is unprecedented. The Excess Report lists George David, CEO of United Technologies, as the top earner, making more than $200 million since 9/11

Read the article I linked above. Steve Jobs realized $647 million LAST YEAR alone. There are lots of executives in lots of economic areas earning big bucks. Folks ... be honest. Is defense and the war the issue here or your unhappiness that ANYONE can make hundreds of millions of dollars?

Halliburton CEO David Lesar made $26.6 million in 2005, and nearly $50 million since 9/11, an amount that even beats the $24 million that Dick Cheney received in exchange for the guarantee that Halliburton would be the number one military contractor during the Bush administration.

More nonsense. These folks claim that Halliburton has made exorbitant profits because of its connection to Cheney. But if you check out the performance of Halliburton with respect to other companies, you find that in January of 2003, the NYSE Composite index (consisting of over 2000 US and non US stocks) was at (see http://www.nyse.com/pdfs/composite_brochure.pdf ) 4500. In mid 2005, it was at about 7500. Today, the index is at 9700. So Halliburton's stock is currently doing about 50% better then the average stock on the NYSE. Not all that remarkable. Afterall, one can easily name hundreds of companies on that exchange that have done just as well or even better. And that have not had to take near the risks that Halliburton had to take. Nor had hundreds of employees killed.

How about looking at just the Halliburton's sector of the market? PHLX is a price weighted index composed of 15 companies that provide oil drilling and production services, oil field equipment, support services and geophysical/resevoir services. The index's value in January 2003 was about 80 (http://www.phlx.com/market/advcharts.asp?SYMBOL=OSX ). In mid 2005 it was 150. And currently it is 225. So up until mid 2005, Halliburton stock was doing about 50 percent better than its average competitor. Since then however, Halliburton has been flat while the competitors have done great. Their stocks today have increased almost as much a Halliburton's. And have they taken the risks and suffered the deaths that Halliburton has? No. So why single out Halliburton and ignore this? Out of dishonesty?

To put it bluntly, the assertion that the Military Industrial Complex and friends of Bush have done better than the rest of the corporate community in the US since 9/11 is just plain rubbish.

When it comes to war profiteering, members of the Bush administration have given a whole new meaning to the "revolving door." A whole gang of thugs has been robbing us blind in Iraq since day one and nobody seems to be able to stop it.

The revolving door has been a fact of life since the MIC came into being. It is the nature of politics. Politicians and people in government have ALWAYS used their positions to benefit themselves and their friends. And democRATS have been just as guilty as anyone. To claim the Bush administration is worse than past administrations in this regard is as dishonest as the claiming the democrats under Clinton were models of ethics (as we've heard the media tell us recently). Yes, there is waste and fraud, but there always has been.

The marriage between the ex-campaign manager, Cheney's buddy, and Lockheed apparently worked out much better than the plan to build 7-Elevens in Iraq, because Lockheed stock value has doubled since 2001, and according to the Excess Report, the firm's CEO has made $50 million since 9/11.

Like I said. So what? Hundreds and hundreds of firms stock value has doubled. And hundreds of CEO's have made $50 million or more since 9/11. And most of them had nothing directly to do with defense, Iraq or Bush. This is false logic that is being promoted here.

And despite the $22 billion funneled to the war profiteers for reconstruction, a US official recently said, Baghdad may not have continuous 24-hour electricity until the year 2013.

Well gee ... do you think that might have something to do with the actions of those islamo-fanatic terrorists that you folks now want to give Iraq to on a silver platter?

For the people drawn to Iraq to fight against the occupation, this is not a war against Americans; it's a war against Bush.

Evelyn Pringle has her head in the sand.

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BeAChooser  posted on  2007-05-08   14:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

Powerful words from hell.

Thanks for bringing them here.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-08   16:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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