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Title: Voice of the White House May 6. 2007
Source: The Truth Seeker
URL Source: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=6522
Published: May 9, 2007
Author: TBR Staff
Post Date: 2007-05-09 07:38:24 by Zoroaster
Keywords: None
Views: 293
Comments: 26

Voice of the White House May 6, 2007

TBR http://News.org – May 6, 2007

“Yesterday, I was having lunch in the staff dining room with several friends. Halfway through the meal, Queen Esther (as we call her) came up and wanted to sit at our table. She is the most obnoxious bitch on the staff and everyone goes out of their way to avoid her but in this case, she just sat down and began her rant. It seems she was furious with Lew Dobbs from CNN because he was engaging in “hate speech.” Everyone knows Dobbs is very concerned about the enormous flood of illegal aliens, mostly Mexicans, who have increased our population by 13 or 20 millions, loaded up our welfare rolls, jammed our hospital emergency rooms, filled our jails and are now loudly demanding we make them all citizens.

According to the raucous Queen Esther (named after the CIA’s John Deutsch’s vile alter ego) “this Nazi evil has to stop!” She then launched into her favorite topic, The Sacred Holocaust. She has been ranting about this gloriously funny fiction for the past five years and without a stop. At the height of her wailings, one of my guests, who happens to be of Armenian background, asked her, very politely, if the slaughter of huge numbers of Armenians by the Turks was a holocaust? This set her off and she screamed that there were all lies; that only the Jews had a holocaust and we couldn’t talk about anything else. My friend then told her, very solemnly, that his uncle had died in Auschwitz.

She became hyper at this information. She wanted to know if the uncle was a Jew? Had he been gassed? My friend replied that no, his uncle was not a Jew and that he had gotten drunk on Hitler’s birthday, fallen out of a guard tower and broken his neck!

My God, what a reaction! She screeched like a parrot on fire, jumped up from the table and fled from the room, howling “Nazi, Nazi!” at the top of her lungs.

Everyone in the room was staring at her but we were too busy laughing to notice. It seems that one Gideon Arnoff, the DC rep for the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society said that "Mr. Dobbs has crossed the line between responsible television commentary and hate-speech propaganda of his own. Keeping him on the air is essentially sanctioning by CNN — which is why we're asking CNN to remove Dobbs from his very public platform."

This rant is absolutely typical and we here in Washington hear it every day. There is a swelling mantra coming from Jewish groups and their allies that they have been the victims, millennia long, of suffering and persecution. Because of this, they cry, they must be given special consideration and, above all, Israel, their Very Own Sacred Country, has to be given anything it wants.

In spite of the think tank garbage and the many books and magazine articles, we here all know exactly what the actual cause of the disastrous Iraqi was: It was the repeated and imperious demands on the part of the Israeli government and their well-organized, very well-funded and fanatic American supporters.

Israel hated Saddam Hussein. During the Gulf War, he had fired rockets at Israel and killed a number of Jews. For this, they ordered, Saddam must be destroyed. The famous “yellowcake” uranium story is an acknowledged Mossad plant and a very crude one at that (Names were misspelled and dates were years off) but the pro-Israeli neocons (many of whom are Israeli citizens) gleefully used this to prod the willing Bush administration into a war that has destroyed the power of the Republican party, energized the Arab world against us and caused thousands of dead Americans. As if this successful, bloody ploy were not enough, now Israel is eagerly poking at the administration to bomb Tehran flat because that country might have an atomic weapons which, if it had, could well be used against Tel Aviv ( and not as the weird Russian-hating Cheney insists, against “all of Europe.’ Cheney, who ought to seek counseling, has been doing everything he can to attack Russian President Putin because Cheney, with extensive oil industry holdings, views Putin as having thwarted a U.S.-takeover of Russian oil properties after the fall of the Soviet Union. )

It is a matter of firm historical fact that the current Jewish citizens of Israel have no ethnic or historical ties to Jerusalem. They are Ashkenazi Jews, which means their roots are Turkic/Mongolian and not Semitic. The Sephardim Jews, who are descendents of the original occupiers of the Holy Land, do not like their converted brothers and there are very few of them in Israel today.

It is the Ashkenazi who poured into Poland and Russia and then tried to infiltrate into Europe in the 1920s. It is the Ashkenazi who then flooded into Jerusalem, inflicting a wave of terror on the British military stationed there and on the Arabs who had lived there for two thousand years.

It is the Ashkenazi who have spied on and betrayed America, first to Soviet Russia, where they ran the country until recently, and then to Israel. This offshoot of Judaism is loyal only to itself and to the state of Israel and will do anything in her behalf, including treason and, in the case of 9/11, to support and encourage the Arab terrorists who blew up the WTC and the Pentagon.

As cases in point, we could consider the Rosenbergs or Pollard but instead, let us look at one Lawrence Anthony Franklin, who was employed by the United States government at the Department of Defense (DoD) in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), International Security Affairs (ISA), Office of Near East and South Asia, Office of Northern Gulf Affairs, Iran desk, and held a Top Secret security clearance with access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI). FRANKLIN'S office was located within the Pentagon, in the Eastern District of Virginia. FRANKLIN was also a Colonel in the United States Air Force Reserve (USAFR). (Note: This material comes directly from the official Federal indictment of Franklin, which is public record, though not easily located. We will publish it in a future edition. ed.)

The Offense

Between on or about August I S, 2002 and continuing until on or about June 30, 2004, in the Eastern District of Virginia and elsewhere, defendant LAWRENCE ANTHONY FRANKLIN, an employee of the United States, did unlawfully and knowingly conspire, confederate, and agree, with persons known and unknown iv the Grand jury, to commit the following offense against the United States: to communicate in a manner and by a means, to a person whom defendant FRANKLIN knew and had reason to believe was an agent and representative of a foreign government, information of a kind which had been classified by the head of a United States agency with the approval of the President, as affecting the security of the United States, said defendant having known and having had reason to know that such information had been so classified, a violation of Title 50, United States Code, Section 783(a).

On January. 20, 2006, a federal judge sentenced former Defense Department analyst, Lawrence A. Franklin, to more than 12 years in prison after Mr. Franklin admitted passing classified military information to two pro-Israel lobbyists and an Israeli diplomat.

This critique is not aimed at the bulk of America’s Jewish population but at the so-called Likudists and Zionists. Most of America’s Jewish community are Reformed Jews and there is no love lost between the two but unfortunately, the majority often suffers the consequences of the actions of the minority.

The Zionists are personified by the rabid so-called neocons who have basically taken over control of America’s foreign policy and whose sole goal is to guarantee full and unconditional American support for the state of Israel. Their loyalty is only to that state and to date they have embroiled this country in a series of confrontations with their enemies that has cost America billions of dollars and the lives of thousands of her young soldiers.

If this is not checked, and checked immediately, in the end, Israel will cheerfully drag everyone into a series of violent conflicts with ultimately fatal results for all the participants.

We can always learn from history. I dug this quote from Benjamin Franklin: out of my files. It sums the matter up very cogently but I doubt if you can find it in any public school history book or even on Wikipedia. Under the circumstances, especially on Wikipedia

‘I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.

In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.

For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.

If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.

If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.

Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.

(Statement made in "Chit chat around the table during intermission", at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.” http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2680.htm

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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)

well this has gotten to a point i never imagined, and i know the jews utterly shudder at this information reaching critical mass.

they have screwed the pooch, cashed their check, burned their last log.

notice how people are becoming more unified in the face of this now evident monster.

"Inability to accept the mystic experience is more than an intellectual handicap. Lack of awareness of the basic unity of organism and environment is a serious and dangerous hallucination. For in a civilization equipped with immense technological power, the sense of alienation between man and nature leads to the use of technology in a hostile spirit---to the "conquest" of nature instead of intelligent co-operation with nature." -Alan Watts /

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-05-09   7:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: gengis gandhi (#1)

notice how people are becoming more unified in the face of this now evident monster.

Will people, i.e non-Jews, get the message or will they submit to the slavery of Jewish supremacy?

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2007-05-09   8:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zoroaster (#2)

the zionist jews have never been able to actually conquer anything. the zionist power holders have always had to exist in the shadows.

look, the jews as a race are not going to win the 'most popular kid in school' award any time soon.

they have zero PR, have built nothing but ill will amongst practically every culture they've ever met, which is more than a few, and haven't a pot to piss in other that the neo con cabal.

i would have to say that this is the fat lady singing.

"Inability to accept the mystic experience is more than an intellectual handicap. Lack of awareness of the basic unity of organism and environment is a serious and dangerous hallucination. For in a civilization equipped with immense technological power, the sense of alienation between man and nature leads to the use of technology in a hostile spirit---to the "conquest" of nature instead of intelligent co-operation with nature." -Alan Watts /

gengis gandhi  posted on  2007-05-09   9:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zoroaster (#0)

I dug this quote from Benjamin Franklin: out of my files. It sums the matter up very cogently but I doubt if you can find it in any public school history book or even on Wikipedia. Under the circumstances, especially on Wikipedia

‘I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.

In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.....

.

If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.

If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.

I have heard this quote many times. If true, either someone is lying, or these two men got "relgion" after they had already let the horse out of the barn. In truth, neither George Washington nor Benjamin Franklin were Christians, nor did they found their government on Christianity.

I read a little book once about the founding fathers, which said that George Washington used to rewrite his speeches, even after he had given them [damage control?]. He could also tell a bawdy joke with the best of them, contrary to the sanitized history we always hear. Remember he was a Mason, and freemasonry is a front for Judaism. They've taken over through their practice of SECRECY.

At any rate, the above quote conflicts with the record of Wahington's 'Lasting Gift to the Jews':

NEWPORT, R.I. – In most of Colonial-era New England, it would have been about as hard to find a Jewish family as a grove of palm trees. But when George Washington visited Newport, R.I., in August 1790, the president found not just one Jewish family, but a Hebrew congregation with its own synagogue. They offered him a warm welcome to their community through a letter written by the leader of their congregation, Moses Sexias.

Four days later, Washington penned a cordial response, assuring them they could enjoy full citizenship in the new United States of America - welcome news to a community whose ancestors had been expelled from the Iberian Peninsula during the Spanish Inquisition.

Today, Jews still worship at the Touro Synagogue in Newport, and every August they - along with other supporters of religious freedom - file into the 18th-century Georgian building to read Washington's letter and to reflect on his words once again.

"It is now no more that toleration is spoken of," Washington wrote, "as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights." He also declared that the government gave "to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance."

After centuries of persecution in Europe, Jews welcomed Washington's message of equality, which set the stage for the US to become home to the largest, most prosperous Jewish community in the world.

Washington's outreach to Jews was revolutionary, notes David Logan, dean of Roger Williams University's law school. America's Founding Fathers were unique in the world when they wrote freedom of religion into the laws of the new country, he says. "It's that pluralism and heterogeneity that make [America] a remarkable place."..................

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0915/p12s01-lire.html

from the wicked wikipedia :)

* .

".....[edit] Religion

Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Some of the 1787 delegates had no affiliation. The others were Protestants except for three Roman Catholics, C. Carroll, D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons. Among the Protestants Constitutional Convention delegates, 28 were Episcopalian, 8 were Presbyterians, 7 were Congregationalists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Dutch Reformed, and 2 were Methodists. Many of the more prominent Founding Fathers were vocal about their opposition to organized religion or anti-clerical, such as Jefferson. Some of them often related their anti-organized church leanings in their speeches and correspondence, including George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson (who created the "Jefferson's Bible"), Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine. However, a few of the more notable founders, such as Patrick Henry, were strong proponents of traditional religion. Several of the Founding Fathers considered themselves to be deists or held beliefs very similar to that of traditional Deists, including Jefferson, Paine and Ethan Allen.

Notwithstanding the spectrum of beliefs held by the Founding Fathers, most viewed religion in a favorable light. This is noted through their statements in speeches and correspondences in which they describe its role in molding "national morality" and securing the rule of law (George Washington), its check on human "wickedness" (Benjamin Franklin), and its preservation of a free government such as America (John Adams). Regardless, the division of church and state was always emphasized by the founding fathers. "The government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion," states the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli. This document was ratified by Congress without much debate or contention and stands today as a reminder of the founding fathers' intentions.[9]

Although not a religion, [WRONG: DO SEARCH SEETHING ENERGIES OF LUCIFER...FREEMASONRY IS A RELIGION, AND ITS GOD IS LUCIFER, AS IS JUDAISM'S] a significant number were Freemasons including John Blair, Benjamin Franklin, James Mchenry, George Washington, Abraham Baldwin, Gunning Bedford, William Blount, David Brearly, Daniel Carroll, Jonathan Dayton, Rufus King, John Langdon, George Read, Roger Sherman, James Madison, Robert Morris, William Paterson, and Charles Pinckney......"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_Fathers_of_the_United_States

The reference to 200 years is likewise interesting, as when Cornwallis "surrendered" to George Washington, he purportedly told him among other things, that America's churches would be used to teach THE JEWS' RELIGION, and in 200 years the nation would be a Judeo-Masonic-British amalgamation.

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unionjack_epilogue.htm

It's no secret that Franklin was a double agent:

"3) After Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown Lafayette returned to Paris where he "cooperated closely with Ambassadors Benjamin Franklin and then Thomas Jefferson" (both Illuminists), possibly working out the details of the planned Constitutional Convention in 1787 (As a side note: Thomas Jefferson had commissioned an obelisk to be placed on his grave at his death.)................

continue reading the article and you will see George Washington getting a loan to carry on the war from his Jewish friend Haym Solomon [who was a Rothschild agent], and note that the Declaration of Independence was sent by way of the Jews...............

http://www.sweetliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution18.htm

The United States government was founded apart from, and with the intention of usurping, the government of Jesus Christ [Isaiah 9:6-7/ Psalm 2/ Micah 4/ Ezekiel 17:1-10]

Everyone is entitled to change, but in the beginning......George Washington and Ben Franklin were in cahoots with the Jews.

======================================================

btw,

George Washington's "Jewish" [Rev. 2:9/3:9] "roots":

http://www.asis.com/~stag/uspres.html

If we're going to tell the truth, we should tell the whole truth

======================================================

It is a matter of firm historical fact that the current Jewish citizens of Israel have no ethnic or historical ties to Jerusalem. They are Ashkenazi Jews, which means their roots are Turkic/Mongolian and not Semitic. The Sephardim Jews, who are descendents of the original occupiers of the Holy Land, do not like their converted brothers and there are very few of them in Israel today.

It is the Ashkenazi who poured into Poland and Russia and then tried to infiltrate into Europe in the 1920s. It is the Ashkenazi who then flooded into Jerusalem, inflicting a wave of terror on the British military stationed there and on the Arabs who had lived there for two thousand years.

It is the Ashkenazi who have spied on and betrayed America, first to Soviet Russia, where they ran the country until recently, and then to Israel. This offshoot of Judaism is loyal only to itself and to the state of Israel and will do anything in her behalf, including treason and, in the case of 9/11, to support and encourage the Arab terrorists who blew up the WTC and the Pentagon.

Ashkenazi Jews: THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE [aka Gog and Magog]

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   11:22:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Red Jones, Eoghan, Dakmar, Esso, Lady X, wbales, noone222, christine, Jethro Tull (#4) (Edited)

I dug this quote from Benjamin Franklin: out of my files. It sums the matter up very cogently but I doubt if you can find it in any public school history book or even on Wikipedia. Under the circumstances, especially on Wikipedia

‘I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.

In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.....

.

If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.

If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.

Oh my, and George Washington too. Nothing I learned at school, to be sure.

Here's one more:

"Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born wherethey will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, theywill never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's,and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopardcannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to thiscountry if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by thisConstitutional Convention."

THE FRANKLIN PROPHECY
Recorded by Charles CoteworthPinckney
Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787

BTW, ADL says it's a myth

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-09   11:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

Be

For example, the word ‘homeland’ was not employed by Jews in Franklin’s time. It was created in connection with the Palestine mandate. Beard also showed "positive evidence" that Franklin held Jews in high regard, citing the instance when the Hebrew Society of Philadelphia sought to raise money for a synagogue in Philadelphia. Franklin signed the petition of appeal for contributions to "citizens of every religious denomination" and gave 5 pounds himself to the fund.

all very interesting...

1) whose "homeland" do you suppose Homeland Security proposes to protect?

2) 'Franklin raised money for a synagogue'.....I rest my case.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   11:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

No copy of any such printed Journal has come to light. Not content with these two claims, the forger has further asserted that the original manuscript of Franklin’s speech, apparently from Pinckney’s Journal, is in the Franklin Institute, Philadelphia. The Franklin Institute does not possess the manuscript.

The forger’s authority for his document is nearly as mythical as could be imagined. He cites a manuscript which does not exist, a printed book or pamphlet which nobody has seen, a Journal which has been lost for more than a hundred years.

ADL link

on the other hand, there was a lot of Jewish lightning surrounding the "disappearance" of the original Thirteenth Amendment.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   11:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)

So which is it? Are those quotes a myth? Or was Franklin later brought round?

Their homeland is too small, even if all the Arabs were tossed out; it's more of a pit-stop.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-09   11:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)

The Franklin Institute does not possess the manuscript.

a Journal which has been lost for more than a hundred years.

Why choose Franklin for this myth? He was not religious. I find that odd.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-09   11:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#8)

So which is it? Are those quotes a myth? Or was Franklin later brought round?

I don't know. I'm inclined to think they were a myth, but when the power to create "history" and destroy history is in the hands of the enemy, it's hard to know.

Their homeland is too small, even if all the Arabs were tossed out; it's more of a pit-stop.

my mistake.....didn't make myself clear. should have asked WHO are they protecting the "homeland" for?

"Ambassador Henry Morgenthau declared 'America is our Zion.'"(America Our Zion, Says Morgenthau Assailing Zionism, The World, June, 27, 1921, p. 22).

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   12:00:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#9)

Why choose Franklin for this myth? He was not religious. I find that odd.

confused?

"We Jews have put issue upon issue to the American people. Then we promote both sides of the issue as confusion reigns. With their eyes fixed on the issues, they fail to see who is behind every scene. We Jews toy with the American public as a cat toys with a mouse."

The Protocols Of Zion - Updated The Harold Rosenthal Interview

http://www.rense.com/general49/prot.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   12:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10)

If a myth, it's not a new one; and to choose Franklin over more religious and morally credible ones is strange. Poetic license allows a writer to choose whomever they like; Franklin is a very odd choice. And life is sometimes stranger than fiction.

You would think the ZioNazis would take better care of their golden goose (US). It seems they are out to destroy this nation (illegals, economy, wars, growing list of enemies, loss of liberties).

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-09   12:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)

Well the Protocols of Zion are supposedly another myth.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-09   12:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10)

America Our Zion, Says Morgenthau Assailing Zionism, The World

That was a very common view among upper-class American Jews, especially those of German Jewish descent, in the early years of Zionism. It pretty much disappeared after Israel's victory in the 1967 war.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-05-09   12:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#12)

You would think the ZioNazis would take better care of their golden goose (US). It seems they are out to destroy this nation (illegals, economy, wars, growing list of enemies, loss of liberties).

that's a given.....

Ashkenazi Jews: THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE [aka Gog and Magog]

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

Eze 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

Eze 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

Eze 38:10 ¶ Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, [that] at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

Eze 38:11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages;I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

Eze 38:12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places [that are now] inhabited, and upon the people [that are] gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze038.html#11

Zec 2:4 And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited [as] towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:

Zec 2:5 For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.

Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rev/20/9.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   12:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#13)

Well the Protocols of Zion are supposedly another myth.

I don't believe it for a minute...I think you'll find the roots of it in Ezekiel 8 and 11, I believe.

Furthermore, the MASTER PROJECTIONISTS' own words put the lie to that:

"....Amalek represents the ultimate barrier to the revelation of G-dliness within the physical world. Its descendants have, for thirty-three continuous centuries, carried on their scheming and machinations to rid the world of Jews and Jewish influence. The very presence of Torah in our realm represents an influence that refines and elevates the gentile nations and all physical elements, preparing for the day when Moshiach arrives to lead a purified world. The Amaleki conspire to send the Torah back into the heavens and reduce the world back to the darkest, most primitive state of idolatry and evil.......

During the time of the first Temple, the dream of eventually refining and transforming the gentiles was reflected in the presence of ten menorahs in the Temple sanctuary — for a total of seventy lights — representing the elevation of the seventy gentile nations. But when the Temple was destroyed, the Jews had to influence the gentiles in a more quiet, gradual manner. Although causing the gentiles to observe the Seven Noachide Laws is itself one of the 613 mitzvos of the Torah, the exile at times sank to such depths of harshness and oppression that Jews simply could not fulfill this mitzvah for fear of death. In such times, Judaism was forced to adapt itself to mere survival; conquest was simply out of the question.

That situation has completely reversed itself today. The very fact that Amalek can stir up such chaos in the world is proof that gentile society no longer presents true opposition to Jewish teachings. One now sees anti-Semitism only where Amalek is provoking trouble, which is precisely where gentiles are the most desperate for guidance. As Christianity spirals downward into strife and theological confusion, it becomes a vacuum unable to defend itself against either the lies of Amalek or the truth of Torah. Amalek can exploit the worldwide collapse of Christianity only by default — that is, only when the Jewish people do not seize the unprecedented opportunity....... [compare with the plot for three world wars to destroy Christianity:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social-cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute-atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time." ILLUMINATI AND COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS]

EXCERPTS FROM FINAL WAR FOR JERUSALEM http://www.noahide.com/finalwar.htm

[and it should be noted that Pat Robertson, Hagee, Abe Foxman, and others are in a plot to destroy Palestine using Iran].

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   12:42:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#16)

the exile at times sank to such depths of harshness and oppression that Jews simply could not fulfill this mitzvah for fear of death. In such times, Judaism was forced to adapt itself to mere survival; conquest was simply out of the question....

meant to highlight that.....the plot went underground, but it never died.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   12:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: aristeides, robin (#14)

It pretty much disappeared after Israel's victory in the 1967 war.

Maybe that was for the benefit of their 'lesser brethren'. The current plot appears to be to get them back to Palestine to fulfill the Armageddon Plot, to put the British Monarchy on the 'throne of David' as a religious front for the NWO.

Antichrist and a Cup of Tea

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/PrinceCharles/

Psa 2:1 ¶ Why do the heathen rage [i.e, CONSPIRE], and the people imagine a vain thing?

Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],

Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Psa 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion......[America]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#1

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-09   12:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#13) (Edited)

Well the Protocols of Zion are supposedly another myth.

And that myth has a mighty high co-incidence with reality.

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-05-09   23:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: wbales (#19)

same with Franklin's prediction

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-09   23:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#12)

It seems they are out to destroy this nation

The evils of multiculturalism and globalism.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-05-09   23:43:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: aristeides, robin, Brian S, noone222 (#18)

It pretty much disappeared after Israel's victory in the 1967 war.

Maybe that was for the benefit of their 'lesser brethren'. The current plot appears to be to get them back to Palestine to fulfill the Armageddon Plot, to put the British Monarchy on the 'throne of David' as a religious front for the NWO.

I just ran across another little tidbit regarding that:

JEWISH RULE

............

Did Zionists, Or Jews, Murder The Romanovs

The horrors mentioned below were mainly committed by Jews who were not Zionists. The Romanoffs and twenty million Russians were not murdered by Zionists, but by Communist Jews. The Hungarians and Ukrainians were destroyed by Communist Jews

The banking and business depredations mentioned below were committed by Rothschild gangsters who were not Zionists. Now, of course, our government has been taken over totally by Zionist Jews and Zionist non-Jews, but the glue holding them all together is Judaism.

***** What if Israel implodes or is just no longer viable as a safe haven and the persecuted ones must once again depart for friendlier lands? That would be the end of Zionism but not the end of Judaism. Jews would still gravitate to Capitol Hill and the White House to demand special exemptions for themselves and unearned, unnatural powers over the rest of us.

The Zionists have pressured and even terrorized other Jews into supporting Zionism - the secular religion justified only by the grimmest fairy tale of all, the Holocaust. It has become an obsessive compulsion for some Jews and the most terrible problem for many more who see a nightmare coming. They know that the nightmare was designed by Jews and was tacitly supported by virtually all Jews, Zionist or not.

Zionism was at first rejected by reactionary Western Jews, who had been trying to assimilate themselves into Gentile society for centuries...........

http://www.judicial-inc.biz/JB.Campbell.htm [great read....it discusses the difference between Shepardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews, Communist Jews vs Zionist Jews. I haven't finished it yet]

I'm trying to understand all this. This seems to tie in with the Armageddon Plot promoted by Hagee, Pat Robertson, the ADL, Bush, et al. They promote a 'homeland for the Jews in Palestine' and hit Christians up for paying to transport Russian Jews there, and at the same time, are goading Iran and Russia into nuking Israel. If Israel is destroyed, the poor sainted wandering Jews must have a new Zion, so of course it would be America. Their little Armageddon Plot also entails destroying the East and West Coast of America. How far inland is Denver, anyway. I've read that the New World Order thinks Britain is going to be destroyed [Genesis 15:13-14?], and so they have been setting up shop in Denver, witness the Satanic Denver Airport.

I tried to figure out how they fathomed this, and would justify it Biblically, because they must, if they want to mollify and dupe further the Zionist Christians [unless they plan to kill them all, witness all the new concentration camps ready and waiting, and gestapo laws waiting, and 'hate laws' around the corner] and all I can come up with is:

Mic 4:1 ¶ But in the last days it shall come to pass, [that] the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mic/Mic004.html

[God wasn't talking about Denver [isn't Denver caled the mile-high city?], He was talking about Christian America: http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/ojnj6.htm and http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/ojnj7.htm . Index: THE OLD JERUSALEM IS NOT THE NEW JERUSALEM http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/index.htm . Please forgive; it errs in thinking Israel is WHITE Christians, otherwise, it is pretty good in explaining the Holy War that has been going on against us, that Cornwallis was referring to.]

Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-10   9:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Zoroaster (#22)

bump.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-10   9:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)

The horrors mentioned below were mainly committed by Jews who were not Zionists. The Romanoffs and twenty million Russians were not murdered by Zionists, but by Communist Jews. The Hungarians and Ukrainians were destroyed by Communist Jews

The banking and business depredations mentioned below were committed by Rothschild gangsters who were not Zionists. Now, of course, our government has been taken over totally by Zionist Jews and Zionist non-Jews, but the glue holding them all together is Judaism.

I always think of them as Zionists though. The average Jewish family has no clue about this anymore than the average WASP family is involved in a cabal.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-10   10:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#24)

The average Jewish family has no clue about this anymore than the average WASP family is involved in a cabal.

That is true. They have been enslaved by the Talmud though.

Jhn 8:31 ¶ Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed;

Jhn 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free....

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn008.html#32

As long as they blaspheme Him, and reject Him and HIS Word, they are going to be victims of their own doing.

Mat 27:20 But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus.

Mat 27:21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.

Mat 27:22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? [They] all say unto him, Let him be crucified.

Mat 27:23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.

Mat 27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but [that] rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed [his] hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye [to it].

Mat 27:25 — Then answered all the people, and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/27/25.html

Barabbas = "son of a father or master"

1) the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ

They rejected the Son of the Heavenly Father, and chose the 'son of' ANOTHER 'father'. How symbolic is that?

Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it......

Jhn 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn008.html#44

Abe Foxman hates to hear it about 'let His blood be upon us, saying it brings persecution on the Jews, yet but he is one of the ones that is trying to round them up to Jerusalem, where they can be slaughtered once again in the nwo Armageddon Plot.....here, entire thread:

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=51712&Disp=10#C10

Abe also thinks it's 'antiSemitic' to preach the gospel to them, probably afraid IF THEY KNEW THE TRUTH IT WOULD SET THEM FREE.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-10   10:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)

Now, of course, our government has been taken over totally by Zionist Jews and Zionist non-Jews, but the glue holding them all together is Judaism.

I suggest that these vermin are not bound by any philosophy but will utilize whichever philosophy best suits their immediate needs. [Any means to an end].

Communism, capitalism, socialism, fascism and Judaism are all instruments played by the Babylonian vermin like a skilled musician. Religion and politics are used to accomplish this single end, a global plantation.

Some say freedom isn't free; I agree, but submission to fascism costs you everything including your pride

noone222  posted on  2007-05-10   20:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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