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Title: Internet Calls Subject To Phone Tapping -- Starting May 14th VoIP Calls Will Be Easier To Tap
Source: abclocal.go.com
URL Source: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=assignment_7&id=5286424
Published: May 9, 2007
Author: Eric Thomas
Post Date: 2007-05-09 23:31:31 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 763
Comments: 14

May 8 - KGO - Companies that provide Internet phone service have just six days to meet a deadline from the Justice Department. By next Monday, they'll have to make their systems easier to tap. That's right -- make it easier to secretly listen in on your phone calls, or face daily fines of $10,000 dollars.

FBI phone taps helped bring down the teflon don, John Gotti. Police phone taps helped put Scott Peterson on Death Row for murdering his wife, Laci. Phone taps are also a major weapon in the war on terror.

Whatever the crime, law enforcement is seeking more and more warrants to listen in -- 1,800 federal warrants last year, and thousands more at the local level.

Charles Cullen, Palo Alto Police Dept.: "We don't have the resources to keep up with all of the emerging technology, and as you know, it changes every day."

Rather than try to keep up with new technology, the FBI and Justice Department convinced Congress to pass a law in 1994 called CALEA -- the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act. It says phone companies have to configure their systems so police can easily tap in, even if that police technology is 15 years old, and it often is.

But the law seemed to exempt phone calls made over the Internet.

Lee Tien, Electronic Frontier Foundation: "At least that's what most people thought."

Not the FBI or Justice Department. In 2004, they convinced the FCC to expand the law to cover Voice over Internet Protocol or VoIP calls.

Lee Tien: "Every privacy group was against it because we thought there were major problems there, but we lost."

Now VoIP providers find themselves hurtling toward an expensive deadline to install hardware that will keep hackers out, but let law enforcement in.

Bryan Martin, 8x8 CEO: "We're being required by the FCC to implement CALEA by May 14th this year. That costs us money to do that and frankly kind of slows down the development of Voice over IP."

8x8 Communications is based in Santa Clara and provides Voice over Internet telephone and picture phone services. CEO Bryan Martin says making the required changes will be expensive and customers will inevitably foot the bill.

That's one of the few things everyone agrees on when it comes to CALEA. There are disagreements about privacy. Law enforcement and phone companies say they can tap into the intricate information structure of the Web without violating the privacy of other phone customers. Privacy groups disagree.

Lee Tien: "With the Internet phone or Internet communications it's much harder to isolate one particular communication because they're all traveling like water through pipes and everyone's calls are mixed together."

Charles Cullen: "That certainly is a concern for the citizens, but I think there is a way to work through that and get what law enforcement needs and still maintain privacy of the citizen."

A big limitation of CALEA is that currently it only allows law enforcement to intercept audio, not video, so a determined terrorist could use sign language. Even that may not be true for long. There's no question that phone taps are a necessary law enforcement tool, but the Voice over IP requirements are so new that many provisions aren't clear, and may have to be hammered out in court.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Whatever the crime, law enforcement is seeking more and more warrants to listen in -- 1,800 federal warrants last year, and thousands more at the local level.

If they listen to me they will hear the same things I post here. No difference.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-05-09   23:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

I hope they listen to me, my calls wil bore them to death. ;-)

Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-05-09   23:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Internet Calls Subject To Phone Tapping -- Starting May 14th VoIP Calls Will Be Easier To Tap

Three Words:

Anonymous Trac Phones.

If you want justice, go to a whorehouse. If you want to get fucked, go to the courts.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-10   10:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Open source, public key encryption of voip should render voip taps moot. All they'd intercept is encrypted voice signals. The latest mandriva linux provides some kind of voip ability, but I've not seen it yet. Then there's the asterisk software with that guy on youtube simulating a conversation with OBL, but doing so live over his phone software and internet.

zphone, put out by the guy that made PGP, is also out there and provides encrypted communications.

I think privacy will ultimately win this one.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2007-05-10   11:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Neil McIver (#4)

Yes,we have been talking about this at Free Geek which is a computer rebuilder/recycling cooperative that give machines to poor people and political and social organizations.

Linux rules there and Windows is viewed with loathing by everyone in the block sized building. They were talking about Mandriva, but they are in the process of making sure Debian -- which is what is used for the OS on all computers coming out of there -- is configured at default network download to provide maximum security against big brother's nosiness.

I'll let you know what the geeks there ultamately decide on for the store, geek and grant boxes made there.

Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-05-10   14:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike, BTP Holdings, Diana, Tauzero, Coral Snake, Critter, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, lodwick, Zipporah, Dakmar (#5)

Yes,we have been talking about this at Free Geek which is a computer rebuilder/recycling cooperative that give machines to poor people and political and social organizations.

Thanks for the link.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-10   14:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

Ferret Mike, BTP Holdings, Diana, Tauzero, Coral Snake, Critter, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, lodwick, Zipporah, Dakmar

Wow, robin, you flagged almost everybody! ;)

(I understand, really I do!)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-05-10   14:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: HOUNDDAWG (#7)

ping!

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-10   15:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#8)

ping!

Whew, that was close!

I thought I goosed my way off your ping list! ;)

Thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-05-10   15:08:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

FBI phone taps helped bring down the teflon don, John Gotti.

Why if it wasn't for unConstitutional phone taps you'd be speaking German right now. Really. :)

"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-05-10   19:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Neil McIver (#4)

All they'd intercept is encrypted voice signals.

And that's fine for techies and hobbyists, but I really prefer the 4th Amendment.

That should be the rallying cry of what's left of the old right. And even some in the new left, am I right?

"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-05-10   19:42:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Dakmar (#10)

Habla Español?

or

http://www.newswithviews.com/Craig/roberts6.htm

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-10   19:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#12)

And a happy Felix Rodriguez to you, too. :)

"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-05-10   19:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#13)

Felix Rodriguez is presumed to have been one of the CIA agents who captured Ernesto “Ch” Guevara in Bolivia and who was involved in his assassination in 1962.

Si.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-10   20:02:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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