[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

Whitney Webb: Foreign Intelligence Affiliated CTI League Poses Major National Security Risk

Paul Joseph Watson: What Fresh Hell Is This?

Watch: 50 Kids Loot 7-Eleven In Beverly Hills For Candy & Snacks

"No Americans": Insider Of Alleged Trafficking Network Reveals How Migrants Ended Up At Charleroi, PA Factory

Ford scraps its SUV electric vehicle; the US consumer decides what should be produced, not the Government

The Doctor is In the House [Two and a half hours early?]

Trump Walks Into Gun Store & The Owner Says This... His Reaction Gets Everyone Talking!

Here’s How Explosive—and Short-Lived—Silver Spikes Have Been

This Popeyes Fired All the Blacks And Hired ALL Latinos

‘He’s setting us up’: Jewish leaders express alarm at Trump’s blaming Jews if he loses

Asia Not Nearly Gay Enough Yet, CNN Laments

Undecided Black Voters In Georgia Deliver Brutal Responses on Harris (VIDEO)

Biden-Harris Admin Sued For Records On Trans Surgeries On Minors

Rasmussen Poll Numbers: Kamala's 'Bounce' Didn't Faze Trump

Trump BREAKS Internet With Hysterical Ad TORCHING Kamala | 'She is For They/Them!'

45 Funny Cybertruck Memes So Good, Even Elon Might Crack A Smile

Possible Trump Rally Attack - Serious Injuries Reported

BULLETIN: ISRAEL IS ENTERING **** UKRAINE **** WAR ! Missile Defenses in Kiev !

ATF TO USE 2ND TRUMP ATTACK TO JUSTIFY NEW GUN CONTROL...

An EMP Attack on the U.S. Power Grids and Critical National Infrastructure

New York Residents Beg Trump to Come Back, Solve Out-of-Control Illegal Immigration

Chicago Teachers Confess They Were told to Give Illegals Passing Grades

Am I Racist? Reviewed by a BLACK MAN

Ukraine and Israel Following the Same Playbook, But Uncle Sam Doesn't Want to Play

"The Diddy indictment is PROTECTING the highest people in power" Ian Carroll

The White House just held its first cabinet meeting in almost a year. Guess who was running it.

The Democrats' War On America, Part One: What "Saving Our Democracy" Really Means

New York's MTA Proposes $65.4 Billion In Upgrades With Cash It Doesn't Have

More than 100 killed or missing as Sinaloa Cartel war rages in Mexico

New York state reports 1st human case of EEE in nearly a decade


Immigration
See other Immigration Articles

Title: The Coming Great Divide in American Political Culture
Source: AMERICAN THINKER
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/2007 ... oming_great_divide_in_ame.html
Published: May 15, 2007
Author: J.R. Dunn
Post Date: 2007-05-15 04:26:13 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 507
Comments: 47

Michael Barone's occasional forays into sociology are always a pleasure to come across. Like the rest of his work, they are concise, well-researched, original, and always marked by clarity. Barone goes where the data takes him, and never seems to have an agenda or an ideological ax to grind.

All this is true of his latest such piece, "The Realignment of America" which appeared in the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, May 8. While going through recent census estimates, Barone discovered a pattern until now overlooked: the old coastal cities, or "Coastal Megalopolises" are steadily becoming dominated by immigrants, while at the same time native Americans are repopulating the thriving heartland cities.

Since 2000, Barone tells us, New York City has seen "a domestic outflow of 8% and an immigrant inflow of 6%". Boston, LA, Washington, and San Diego show similar turnovers. The total outflow of native-born Americans from these cities amounts to 650,000 a year.

At the same time, cities such as Orlando, Charlotte, Phoenix, and Tampa have had dramatic leaps in native-born population, in all cases exceeding 10%, and in that of Las Vegas approaching 20%. So while the coastal cities remain static in population numbers despite the turnover, interior cities are booming.

What does this mean for our political culture? Barone touches on the question, noting that "The economic divide in New York and Los Angeles is starting to look like the economic divide in Mexico City and São Paulo", but doesn't go much further. But if the process continues, the implications will be profound.

If Barone is correct - and there's no reason to believe he isn't - then we're headed for an even more serious social schism between the heartland and the coastal metropolises. The heartland (along with smaller cities and towns on the coasts) will be comprised of melting-pot Americans, the coastal cities a bewildering melange of immigrants from all points of the compass, topped with an exceedingly thin layer of ultra-wealthy natives.

Miami, as it has been for the past thirty years, can serve as an example, with these differences: the Cubans represented a single homogeneous group; they had very good reasons - hatred of Fidelista communism above all - to appreciate American society; and they already understood American culture. This will not necessarily be the case with the new arrivals. Above all, PC and multiculturalism have removed all reason for immigrants to adapt to their new country.

With no particular pressure to fit in, the new immigrants will cling to their traditions, worldviews, and customs, many conflicting with ours and with those of other immigrant groups. NYC's asinine decision to establish a madrassah in Brooklyn is only the opening wedge - now all hundred-odd ethnicities residing in New York will demand the same treatment, and they will get it. The result will be Babel.

So thank the Archangels you're not living in NYC. But there are implications that may affect us all. Many of these people will have emigrated from failed polities of one type or another. Too many of the countries of Africa and Asia and Latin America, are operating in something resembling free fall, to put it kindly. Government is whoever has the most guns; civil society goes its own way with little reference to governmental activity; whatever political entanglements that can't be avoided are dealt with in the most primitive manner conceivable, through processes characterized by kinship and tribal relations, bribery, and paternalism. It's those conditions many people were fleeing when they came to the United States.

But it's those same conditions that, even with the best will in the world, they are going to bring with them. People cannot shed elements of their culture the same way they may change the dishdash for slacks and shirt. They are going to look for the Big Man. They are going to wonder whom to bribe, and how much. They are going to gravitate toward whoever operates in the manner closest to their country, region, or tribe. They will, without the least intending to, recreate in the U.S. the same situation they were fleeing from back home. With the added complication that dozens of other ethnicities will also be trying to grab the political levers to ensure that things are done their way, all at once.

It's difficult to see how this is particularly congruent with American democracy as we understand it today. Nor that there is any way to make it compatible with any form of democratic practice. So something will have to give. And it seems likely that what will give will be the members of America's sole native criminal class, the politicians.

What politician could resist such an opportunity? Masses of helpless, ignorant, and needy people requiring guidance, requiring a protector, requiring a leader. We've seen this before. Consider how the black vote has been manipulated by Democratic politicians since the days of the New Deal. Multiply that by a few dozen ethnicities, and the magnitude of the problem becomes manifest. (What's that? New immigrants can't vote? Do you really think so?)

But let's not be unfair to Democrats. If you think the GOP would hesitate a minute to leap into the same role, your introduction to practical politics remains before you. All the same, the Democrats are the prime suspects here, seeing how they control the surviving political machines in cities up and down the Eastern seaboard. Many of these machines have been in operation since the last big immigration wave early in the 20th century. Adapting them to the new conditions will simply be a matter of integrating the new arrivals into the places once held by Italians and Irishmen.

But there's another factor at work as well - even as the pols are gathering in the new flock, the new flock will be exerting pressure on them to conform more to the style that they're used to. How are they going to resist becoming something along the lines of a tribal chieftain? Many of them think of themselves in similar terms in any case. And with that shift will come a level of corruption that will make New Jersey or Louisiana look like the Palace of the Just. If you think that New York resembles a third-world country now... you ain't seen nothing yet.

At the same time, we'll have a native-born American population that has reconnected with its roots, and very likely, after years of dealing with terrorism, undergone a resurgence of patriotism, much as Great Britain did in the course of the lengthy Napoleonic Wars. (And, as Barone points out, will have grown more Republican, too.) This will represent quite a contrast to the teeming multilingual coasts, and create inevitable and unavoidable grounds for conflict.

We can dismiss any thoughts of civil war. Conflicts in advanced societies aren't settled that way, and a situation in which isolated urban areas are opposed to the country at large doesn't lend itself to such an outcome. But there are plenty of other ugly possibilities. (And some benefits as well - the coastal cities, which wield far too much influence today, will find their sway over the rest of the country dwindling, no doubt a good thing.) Most of the downside factors will involve native politicians released from any responsibility to the population of the country as a whole, a nightmare in and of itself. Corruption will grow to proportions not easy to imagine today, particularly as it takes on an international dimension.

Mayors, representatives, possibly even governors and senators, will be running their own sub rosa foreign policies in order to fulfill the wishes of their foreign-born constituencies. Foreign groups and organizations of all types -- religious, political, social, and criminal -- having no current connection to American society will establish strong beachheads by manipulating and playing off native politicians. This will create new challenges for law enforcement, particularly as it shades into foreign intelligence. Questions of national security will begin to take in the policies of the administration the next town over.

Potential solutions are less than obvious. Education of new immigrants as to what the American system is and how it works would appear to be the key, but who would handle that? With the educational system as it exists, enraptured with the doctrines of multiculturalism, the cure would be worse than the disease.

It may in the end merely be a matter of muddling through, of using law enforcement and social pressure to hold the fort while the new immigrant masses ever so slowly adapt themselves to this country (or, rather, their children and grandchildren do). It doesn't seem like much, but it may be the best we can hope for.

Of course, we could always return to a sane immigration policy. I have yet to hear what would be wrong with that.

J.R. Dunn is contributing editor of American Thinker.


Poster Comment:

Government is whoever has the most guns;

Universal Truth.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 47.

#6. To: noone222, Jethro Tull, Tauzero, who knows what evil, IndieTx, bluedogtxn, BTP Holdings, robin, kiki, karelian, Diana, Nostalgia, HOUNDDAWG, Arator, ..., blackeagle (#0)

With no particular pressure to fit in, the new immigrants will cling to their traditions, worldviews, and customs, many conflicting with ours and with those of other immigrant groups. NYC's asinine decision to establish a madrassah in Brooklyn is only the opening wedge - now all hundred-odd ethnicities residing in New York will demand the same treatment, and they will get it. The result will be Babel.

the death of a nation...

christine  posted on  2007-05-15   10:35:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#6)

the death of a nation...

Came first.

Dying nations are always plagued by more vigorous foreigners.

The foreign plague that befell China was both inevitable and necessary for China's renewal. Rotten wood cannot be carved. Let the termites eat it.

In this sense, I welcome the little buggers.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-05-15   11:07:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tauzero (#11)

In this sense, I welcome the little buggers.

yep, they'll renew our nation and make it a better place for our kids.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-15   11:28:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bluedogtxn (#15)

yep, they'll renew our nation and make it a better place for our kids.

Why don't ya speed the process and move to Tijuana.

noone222  posted on  2007-05-15   11:29:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: noone222 (#16)

yep, they'll renew our nation and make it a better place for our kids.

Why don't ya speed the process and move to Tijuana.

A border town? No thanks. The border towns suck shit. They are all lawless hellholes, and unfortunately that is all people think of when they think of Mexico. Give me a nice inland village, far from the cities in highland Mexico anytime. The people are friendly and decent, the policia are generally far away, and it's ...

Hell, it's like living in a free country.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-15   12:41:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: bluedogtxn (#19)

Hell, it's like living in a free country.

I guess the illegals just can't stand the freedom anylonger, so they're invading the U.S. by the millions.

Makes sense to me ... duh !!!

noone222  posted on  2007-05-15   12:46:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222 (#20)

Hell, it's like living in a free country. I guess the illegals just can't stand the freedom anylonger, so they're invading the U.S. by the millions.

Makes sense to me ... duh !!!

They come over here and work because Mexico, although a relatively free (in the sense of not much govierno) country, is also a POOR country. Very poor. Which is why my Gringo dollares go very far there.

I'd move to Mexico in a minute if I could make the kind of money there that I do here and if my kids could go to a decent school. Desfortunado, that is not the case. El oportunidad is much better in el Norte. El libertad is better in El Sur, and Mexican kids never have to worry about being drafted to fight some war in the middle of Asia for God's sake.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-15   12:58:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: bluedogtxn, ALL (#22)

and Mexican kids never have to worry about being drafted to fight some war in the middle of Asia for God's sake.

ROTFLOL! Apparently you unaware that Mexico, unlike the US, actually has a draft. All males at 18 must register for military service for one year. Who serves and how you serve depends on a lottery with a color scheme. With their armed forces numbering about 600,000 and 1 million males reaching 18 annually, you stand a pretty good chance of serving in some capacity. But most conscripts serve in a civil capacity and have but one practice shooting session their entire year.

And as for fighting some war in the middle of Asia, it's true that's not very likely since the Constitution requires a specific declaration of war before Mexico's military can fight outside the borders of the country. However, unlike the US, Mexico does not forbid the regular military from operations within its country's borders. That's a necessity since they have several wars going on inside their country at this time. One is the VERY nasty drug war we've all heard about. Another is against the EZLN guerillas in the southern state of Chiapas where there have been repeated armed uprisings since 1994. Still a third is against the EPR (Popular Revolutionary Army) in Guerrero and other states. Now if drafted, the likelihood of you fighting in those wars is small because it's mostly the voluteers who are doing that. Just as it's volunteers who are serving in the middle of Asia in the US military.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-05-15   13:36:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: BeAChooser (#35)

ROTFLOL! Apparently you unaware that Mexico, unlike the US, actually has a draft. All males at 18 must register for military service for one year.

ROTFLOL right back at you, dreaded villain!

I have literally dozens of Mexican nationals who are clients of mine, and NOT ONE has had to serve time in the Mexican Army! ROTFLOL!

And the children of foreign nationals are exempt from the Mexican draft!

ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL! ROTFLOL!

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-05-15   16:17:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: bluedogtxn, ALL (#46)

I have literally dozens of Mexican nationals who are clients of mine, and NOT ONE has had to serve time in the Mexican Army!

Maybe they got lucky and didn't get selected or perhaps they violated Mexican law and just didn't register.

But Mexico DOES have a draft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_service

http://www.photius.com/countries/mexico/national_security/mexico_national_security_recruitment_and_cons~511.html

http://www.wri-irg.org/co/rtba/mexico.htm

http://www.wri-irg.org/pubs/br61-en.htm

According to the above sources, one receives an identity card upon completion of the year's service. Until recently, that card was apparently required for a passport, driver's license or employment with the government. In 2002 they dropped the requirement as far as getting a passport. I don't know whether the ID card is still required to get a driver's license or government employment. I do see from one of the sources below that I was wrong ... only 60,000 recruits are needed a year so your chances of not having to serve are high.

And the children of foreign nationals are exempt from the Mexican draft!

No doubt true but don't think for one minute your children, if you go there, will be first class "citizens". They will not have many of the rights that Mexican here in the US are afforded. And neither will you.

BeAChooser  posted on  2007-05-15   19:54:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 47.

        There are no replies to Comment # 47.


End Trace Mode for Comment # 47.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]  [Register]