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Title: Ron Paul vs. Rudy “The Thug” Giuliani
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AntiWar.com
URL Source: http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/05 ... aul-vs-rudy-the-thug-giuliani/
Published: May 16, 2007
Author: Justin Raimondo
Post Date: 2007-05-16 13:14:26 by Brian S
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Views: 839
Comments: 74
In response to Ron Paul’s reasonable and informed contention that our interventionist foreign policy created the “blowback” that gave rise to Al Qaeda, and 9/11, Rudy Giuliani burbled “I don’t think I’ve ever heard that!” Of course he hasn’t heard it: he’s so busy pandering to the worst instincts of “I believe the CIA is correct when it warns us about blowback. We overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and their taking the hostages was the reaction. This dynamic persists and we ignore it at our risk. They’re not attacking us because we’re rich and free, they’re attacking us because we’re over there.” In effect: screw you, Rudy! As even the dumbos over at http://FreeRepublic.com acknowledge, Rep. Paul is factually correct. Bin Laden’s fatwa gave his reasons for the attack, and the savaging of Iraq — pre-invasion — is front-and -center..
red-state fascists Republicans, calling for a national ID card, and drooling at the thought of torture that he has no time for a reality-based assessment of American foreign policy. That bullying would-be Mafia don, who looks and acts like someone out of “The Sopranos,” demanded that Ron Paul “withdraw his remarks and tell us he didn’t mean it.” Paul’s answer,
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#4. To: Brian S (#0)
Rude Giuliani has never heard of or read what Gen. Smedley Butler testified to Congress about, "American intervention". Paul needs to read some of Butlers words to the MSM who also are ignorant by choice.
The recent debate and flare-up between Jew-Liani and Ron Paul has caused the pussies in the MSM like Beck, Hannity, Blitzer, Shill I'sraeli and others to foam at the mouth. Each is vying for a chance to bring Paul down, hoping to get a pat on the head from their globalist masters ... but the facts are on Ron Paul's side ... not that these whores recognize any value in truth or facts.
If Ron Paul cannot be trashed by the Zionist attack dogs before the upcoming presidential election, he will suffer a fatal accident.
Our Jew controlled government cannot afford to have anyone prying open the eyes of American sheep and encouraging them to engage their brains.
After reading these two pages (15-16) of Jewish published (poopaganda for their own Jewish soldiers) info, is it difficult to imagine that a (secret) deal was cut in the very beginning between Washington and the war profiteer Jews ??? (See last paragraph page 16) Haym Solomon, always portrayed as a "patriot" ... never been a Jew patriot to any cause other than Jewish causes, but there have been a ton of Jew spies, murderers and infiltraitors. Who backed Haym Solomon and what was the pay-off ?
Jew and Zionist are completely different things. There's a big difference between being anti-fascist and anti-semitic. I have several Jewish friends who despise Bush and Israel as much as I do. Stick to verifiable facts; Jews do not run this country, nor are they all in some secret cabal aimed at (fill in the blank). I don't know how many Jews you know, but they are as varied as any other cultural group. It has been an article of faith to support Israel among many of them; like them, I grew up just assuming Israel was a noble experiment. And like many of them, I am appalled at the way Israel has been behaving over the past two decades. You really have to look at the situation more. There is nothing "Jewish" about fascism. Catholics, Protestants, Islam, and every other religion/culture have their fascist elements.
That is good in theory but in fact all one has to do look to see who runs the country. Whitewashing here will not be accepted. Nothing Jewish about fascism??? That is ludicrous, not even worth comment.
Now you're getting silly. Who was the last Jewish president? Vice president? How many Jewish senators or congressmen are there? Jews are over-represented in law, entertainment, medicine and finance. That is part of their culture, not some evidence that they run the country. There is nothing particularly Jewish about fascism. Catholics (Italy, Argentina, El Salvador, Colombia), Protestants (Germany, South Africa), Atheists (USSR), Muslims (Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt) and any other religion you pick have an equal or far more impressive fascist history. Falwell and Robertson and Bush are good examples here. Not worth comment? That indicates to me that you can't maintain an argument. Were Mussolini and Hitler and Stalin fascists or no? How many Jewish states have been fascist? I dislike the Likudniks as much as the next guy, but they're far from the worst fascists ever. They just happen to be in charge of a particularly sensitive fascist state at the moment. You're letting a larger political argument disappear because you, for some reason, dislike Jews. The majority are as anti-Bush and Zionism as I am. Dunno about you.
Johnson and before that Eisenhower...any more questions?????
LBJ and Ike were JEWS? Man, you really need to get a high school education.
Mekon... I will tolerate your lack of knowledge one more time.... Whatever you do, do not read a copy of Eisenhowers West Point Yearbook, you might be enlightened. As for Johnson, his family pedigree is available on the net and may I suggest you avail yourself of veiewing it.
Further.. In case you are interested, you might do a little history research on FDR, TR and John Wilson.
Tolerate??? HAHAHAHAHAHA! The Roosevelts were DUTCH, from an old Dutch PROTESTANT family. Ike was a Kraut. Johnson was a mutt, but not in any way Jewish. Which Aryan Nation chapter do you belong to? This is so ignorant, I'm in shock.
You should be. Displaying such an ignorant lack of history, it is appalling. To show us how ignorant I am, why don't you post the picture of Ikes West Point yearbook here on this thread/???? If you don't we will all know who is ignorant, please post it.
I was curious: Eisenhower Is A derivative Of Eisenhauer A Jewish Name
Christine... You might ping others that have shown interest pro or con. I enjoy debate and discussion but when posters turn to personal attack, and drop civility, I leave.
Care to point out which schul he attended, and which synagogue? I notice that your sources claim he was black too. Just silly. I guess the claim that one drop of Jewish or black blood makes that person Jewish or black resonates with you. Check out his actual bio, not just propaganda produced by hate groups.
: "Dwight D. Eisenhower" article on http://Wikipedia.com website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower; viewed 1 December 2005): Eisenhower's family originally belonged to the local River Brethren sect of the Mennonites. However, when Ike was five years old, his parents became followers of the WatchTower Society, whose members later took the name Jehovah's Witnesses. The Eisenhower home served as the local WatchTower meeting Hall from 1896 to 1915, when Eisenhower's father stopped regularly associating due to the WatchTower's failed prophesies that Armageddon would occur in October 1914 and 1915. Ike's father received a WatchTower funeral when he died in the 1940s. Ike's mother continued as an active Jehovah's Witness until her death. Ike and his brothers also stopped associating regularly after 1915. Ike enjoyed a close relationship with his mother throughout their lifetimes, and he even used a WatchTower printed Bible for his second Presidential Inauguration. In later years, Eisenhower was baptized, confirmed, and became a communicant in the Presbyterian church in a single ceremony on February 1, 1953, just weeks after his first inauguration as president. In his retirement years, he was a member of the Gettysburg Presbyterian Church in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. From: "Gettysburg Presbyterian Church" webpage on http://Gettysburg.com website (http://www.gettysburg.com/communit/gpc.htm; viewed 1 December 2005): The "Church of the Presidents", visited by Lincoln and joined by the Eisenhowers, invites you to visit and/or worship with us in our active and historic church located in downtown Gettysburg... Gettysburg Presbyterian Church began its work in 1740 in a log structure situated three miles west of town, at the present site known as Black's Graveyard. The congregation moved to the present location in 1842. The original building consisted only of a sanctuary. During and immediately following the Battle of Gettysburg, the church along with many other public buildings was converted into a temporary hospital... On February 1, 1963, President and Mrs. Dwight D. Eisenhower became members of the church. The pew President Eisenhower occupied was so marked with a plaque. The church also has an Eisenhower Lounge containing prints of paintings and memorabilia of the late President. The Gettysburg Presbyterian Church was selected for a special citation as American Presbyterian and Reformed Historical Site No. 94 and is registered by the Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia. Source: Jerry Bergman, Ph.D (Northwest State College, Ohio). "Why President Eisenhower Hid His Jehovah's Witness Upbringing" in JW Research Journal, vol. 6, #2, July-Dec., 1999. URL: http://www.premier1.net/~raines/eisenhower.html See also: http://www.eisenhower.utexas.edu/listofholdingshtml/listofholdingsJ/jehovahwitnessesabilenecongregation.pdf Abstract: It is commonly reported even in authoritative works about President Eisenhower that he was raised as a River Brethren by parents that were active in the River Brethren church. In fact, Dwight D. Eisenhower was raised a Jehovah's Witness, a [group] commonly called Russellites or Bible Students until 1931. His mother was active in the [group] from 1895, when Dwight was five years old, until she died. Eisenhower's father was also an active member, although after 1915 he eventually no longer considered himself a Witness. All of the Eisenhower boys left the Jehovah's Witness religion when adults and openly opposed major aspects of Watchtower teaching, although some of the values they learned from their Bible studies probably influenced them throughout their lives. Some Watchtower values may even have been reflected in Dwight's statements against war made in his latter life. Nonetheless, the Eisenhower's endeavored to hide the full extent of their mother's and family's Watchtower involvement although they did at times admit their affiliation with them. The reasons why the Eisenhower boys took great pains to hide their early Watchtower associations are discussed.
#62. To: All (#61)
Enough? Or does a cheap joke in a yearbook trump real history?
I got my answer. No wonder your knowledge of history is so limited. Anyone who has a true interest in history would NEVER resort to even reading wikipedia for FACT, let alone quote that source.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIn response to Ron Paul’s reasonable and informed contention that our interventionist foreign policy created the “blowback” that gave rise to Al Qaeda, and 9/11, Rudy Giuliani burbled “I don’t think I’ve ever heard that!
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
#7. To: noone222 (#5)
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#8. To: Zoroaster (#7)
If Ron Paul cannot be trashed by the Zionist attack dogs before the upcoming presidential election, he will suffer a fatal accident.
#9. To: Cynicom (#8)
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Our Jew controlled government
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#30. To: Mekons4 (#27)
. Stick to verifiable facts; Jews do not run this country, nor are they all in some secret cabal aimed at (fill in the blank).
#31. To: Cynicom (#30)
#32. To: Mekons4 (#31)
Now you're getting silly. Who was the last Jewish president?
#33. To: Cynicom (#32)
#37. To: Mekons4 (#33)
LBJ and Ike were JEWS? Man, you really need to get a high school education.
#38. To: All (#37)
LBJ and Ike were JEWS? Man, you really need to get a high school education.
#41. To: Cynicom (#38)
#43. To: Mekons4 (#41)
This is so ignorant, I'm in shock.
#54. To: Cynicom (#43)
#56. To: christine (#54)
Eisenhower Is A derivative Of Eisenhauer A Jewish Name
#57. To: Cynicom (#56)
#61. To: All (#57)
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#63. To: Mekons4 (#61)
"Dwight D. Eisenhower" article on http://Wikipedia.com website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower; viewed 1 December 2005):
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