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Title: Ron Paul vs. Rudy “The Thug” Giuliani
Source: AntiWar.com
URL Source: http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/05 ... aul-vs-rudy-the-thug-giuliani/
Published: May 16, 2007
Author: Justin Raimondo
Post Date: 2007-05-16 13:14:26 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 848
Comments: 74

In response to Ron Paul’s reasonable and informed contention that our interventionist foreign policy created the “blowback” that gave rise to Al Qaeda, and 9/11, Rudy Giuliani burbled “I don’t think I’ve ever heard that!”

Of course he hasn’t heard it: he’s so busy pandering to the worst instincts of red-state fascists Republicans, calling for a national ID card, and drooling at the thought of torture that he has no time for a reality-based assessment of American foreign policy. That bullying would-be Mafia don, who looks and acts like someone out of “The Sopranos,” demanded that Ron Paul “withdraw his remarks and tell us he didn’t mean it.” Paul’s answer,

“I believe the CIA is correct when it warns us about blowback. We overthrew the Iranian government in 1953 and their taking the hostages was the reaction. This dynamic persists and we ignore it at our risk. They’re not attacking us because we’re rich and free, they’re attacking us because we’re over there.”  

 In effect: screw you, Rudy!

As even the dumbos over at http://FreeRepublic.com acknowledge, Rep. Paul is factually correct. Bin Laden’s fatwa gave his reasons for the attack, and the savaging of Iraq — pre-invasion — is front-and -center..

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#4. To: Brian S (#0)

In response to Ron Paul’s reasonable and informed contention that our interventionist foreign policy created the “blowback” that gave rise to Al Qaeda, and 9/11, Rudy Giuliani burbled “I don’t think I’ve ever heard that!

Rude Giuliani has never heard of or read what Gen. Smedley Butler testified to Congress about, "American intervention".

Paul needs to read some of Butlers words to the MSM who also are ignorant by choice.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-05-17   4:37:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

The recent debate and flare-up between Jew-Liani and Ron Paul has caused the pussies in the MSM like Beck, Hannity, Blitzer, Shill I'sraeli and others to foam at the mouth. Each is vying for a chance to bring Paul down, hoping to get a pat on the head from their globalist masters ... but the facts are on Ron Paul's side ... not that these whores recognize any value in truth or facts.

noone222  posted on  2007-05-17   4:45:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#5) (Edited)

If Ron Paul cannot be trashed by the Zionist attack dogs before the upcoming presidential election, he will suffer a fatal accident.

Zoroaster  posted on  2007-05-17   4:59:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zoroaster (#7)

If Ron Paul cannot be trashed by the Zionist attack dogs before the upcoming presidential election, he will suffer a fatal accident.

Our Jew controlled government cannot afford to have anyone prying open the eyes of American sheep and encouraging them to engage their brains.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-05-17   5:03:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#8) (Edited)

Our Jew controlled government

After reading these two pages (15-16) of Jewish published (poopaganda for their own Jewish soldiers) info, is it difficult to imagine that a (secret) deal was cut in the very beginning between Washington and the war profiteer Jews ??? (See last paragraph page 16) Haym Solomon, always portrayed as a "patriot" ... never been a Jew patriot to any cause other than Jewish causes, but there have been a ton of Jew spies, murderers and infiltraitors.

Who backed Haym Solomon and what was the pay-off ?

noone222  posted on  2007-05-17   5:18:52 ET  (3 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222 (#9)

Jew and Zionist are completely different things. There's a big difference between being anti-fascist and anti-semitic. I have several Jewish friends who despise Bush and Israel as much as I do. Stick to verifiable facts; Jews do not run this country, nor are they all in some secret cabal aimed at (fill in the blank).

I don't know how many Jews you know, but they are as varied as any other cultural group. It has been an article of faith to support Israel among many of them; like them, I grew up just assuming Israel was a noble experiment. And like many of them, I am appalled at the way Israel has been behaving over the past two decades.

You really have to look at the situation more. There is nothing "Jewish" about fascism. Catholics, Protestants, Islam, and every other religion/culture have their fascist elements.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-05-17   21:06:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Mekons4 (#27)

. Stick to verifiable facts; Jews do not run this country, nor are they all in some secret cabal aimed at (fill in the blank).

That is good in theory but in fact all one has to do look to see who runs the country.

Whitewashing here will not be accepted.

Nothing Jewish about fascism??? That is ludicrous, not even worth comment.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-05-17   21:21:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#30)

Now you're getting silly. Who was the last Jewish president? Vice president? How many Jewish senators or congressmen are there?

Jews are over-represented in law, entertainment, medicine and finance. That is part of their culture, not some evidence that they run the country.

There is nothing particularly Jewish about fascism. Catholics (Italy, Argentina, El Salvador, Colombia), Protestants (Germany, South Africa), Atheists (USSR), Muslims (Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt) and any other religion you pick have an equal or far more impressive fascist history. Falwell and Robertson and Bush are good examples here.

Not worth comment? That indicates to me that you can't maintain an argument. Were Mussolini and Hitler and Stalin fascists or no? How many Jewish states have been fascist?

I dislike the Likudniks as much as the next guy, but they're far from the worst fascists ever. They just happen to be in charge of a particularly sensitive fascist state at the moment.

You're letting a larger political argument disappear because you, for some reason, dislike Jews. The majority are as anti-Bush and Zionism as I am. Dunno about you.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-05-17   21:34:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Mekons4 (#31)

Now you're getting silly. Who was the last Jewish president? Vice president?

you're of the opinion that the president and vice president run things, Mekons. they're just puppets. who's the real power..er, money behind the throne?

this historical article is quite informative and provides the answer, imo. The Rothschilds, Winston Churchill and the "Final Solution"

christine  posted on  2007-05-17   21:47:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: christine, Mekons4, noone222, (#34)

you're of the opinion that the president and vice president run things, Mekons. they're just puppets. who's the real power..er, money behind the throne?

this historical article is quite informative and provides the answer, imo. The Rothschilds, Winston Churchill and the "Final Solution"

bookmarked.

re: Eisenhower's yearbook. did you get it here....

http://judicial-inc.biz/Hopie_ike.htm

more on his Jewish ancestry:

"....Note: Remember the photo of Ike's West Point yearbook picture when he was dubbed "IKE, THE TERRIBLE SWEDISH JEW"? By the way, he was next, or nearly so, to the last in his class. This article was first printed in 1990, but we thought it was meaningful to reprint it now.

Note: During Cadet Eisenhower's time at West Point Academy, Eisenhower was summoned to the office of the headmaster and was asked some pointed questions. At the time, it was routine procedure to test a cadet's blood to insure White racial integrity.

Apparently, there was a question of Eisenhower's racial lineage and this was brought to Eisenhower's attention by the headmaster. When asked if he was part Oriental, Eisenhower replied in the negative. After some discussion, Eisenhower admitted having Jewish background. The headmaster then reportedly said, "That's where you get your Oriental blood?" Although he was allowed to remain at the academy, word got around since this was a time in history when non-Whites were not allowed into the academy. Note - The issue of Eisenhower's little-known Jewish background in academically essential in understanding his psychopathic hatred of German men, women and children....."

OPERATION KEELHAUL - Eisenhower's Holocaust - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans

http://judicial-inc.biz/Hopie_ike_supplement.htm#Ida%20Elizabeth%20Stover

All this, after THE JEWS DECLARED WAR - AGAINST Germany! NOT the Other Way Around! and those 'insurgents' got uppity, and tried to defend themselves, and others:

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.htm

In World War II, the JEWS Declared War AGAINST Germany – NOT the other way around, as we have been propagandized to believe! The three main leaders of the allies, U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and the leader of the U.S.S.R., Joseph Stalin, WERE ALL JEWISH!

THEY, the JEWS, declared WAR AGAINST Germany!

International Jewry DECLARED WAR AGAINST Germany and started a boycott of German goods – sabotaging Germany in the war effort. The Jews in Germany became enemies of the state and were placed in concentration camps to work in the factories to build war materials.

England bombed Germany SIX times BEFORE Germany retaliated.

Germany went into Russia for ONE Reason – to try to save the millions of Germans who had been living in the Ukraine for several hundreds of years, having been invited there by the Czar to farm the land. When the Communist, Jewish Bolshevists took over, they started killing and starving these Germans in the Ukraine. Germany went into Russia as a Rescue Mission.

The same thing happened in Poland. The Leaders of the Allies (all Jews) reached an “agreement” to hand over part of Germany to Poland. Then the Jews running Poland, started killing the Germans who were now under their control. The Danzig corridor, the life-line between Germany and Poland, was closed off, prohibiting Germans from getting back to Germany. So the German Nation went on ANOTHER Rescue Mission into Poland in an attempt to SAVE the Germans living there.

After U.S. President Roosevelt died, while in office, he was succeeded by President Harry S. (for Solomon) Truman, ALSO a Jew. He was responsible for bombing Nagasaki and Hiroshima with the Atomic Bomb AFTER Japan had already surrendered unconditionally!

President Truman was followed by U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower, ALSO a Jew, who was responsible for ordering the torture and starvation - to death – of hundreds of thousands of innocent German citizens AFTER the war – AFTER Germany had surrendered unconditionally! WORLD WAR II WAS A WAR DECLARED BY THE JEWS – AGAINST GERMANY!

Why did the Jews start a war against Germany?

Because Germany was the ONLY remaining country in Western Europe that had not been conquered by the Jews! Germans were industrious, clean, organized, intelligent, and a strong Christian nation. For all those reasons – the Jews HATED the Germans!

England had been taken over by the Jews 400 years BEFORE World War II, when the Jew, John Dee (the original 007), was the head of Security for Queen Elizabeth I and convinced her to form a partnership with the Jews (Non-Jewish Monarchs of Europe combined with International Jewry) for the conquering of the WORLD!

And the Jews STILL run England, under the dictatorship (from behind the scenes) of the Rothschilds. This Banking family is Jewish (Their real name was Meyer) who control ALL the Central Banks (money supplies) of virtually ALL the countries in the world.

The JEWS had taken over France BEFORE the French Revolution in 1789 and BRAG about it to this day, in their own literature.

The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was Jewish! Lenin was a Jew. Stalin was a Jew. Karl Marx (author of the Communist Manifesto) was a Jew. Leon Trotsky (real name - Bronstein) the head of the Red Army was a Jew, as were close to 80% of ALL the Bolshevists to murdered the Czar and his family and took over Russia by force.

Italy was controlled by the Vatican. The Vatican, and entire Catholic Church has been controlled by the Jews (from behind the scenes) for several hundred years. The head of the Jesuits, known as the Black Pope, is Jewish – and controls the Visible Pope (the one seen by society) who does the Black Pope’s bidding.

Pope John Paul II was Jewish. The present Pope, Joseph Ratzinger, is Jewish. The Jews invaded, and took over, the Catholic Church over time since the Inquisition, when the Catholic Church threatened death to Jews, and others, who would not convert to Catholicism.

International Jewry told the rank and file Jews to pretend to convert, then get inside the Catholic church and eventually take it over. This they did!

The ENTIRE WORLD has been propagandized to believe that the Germans declared war against the Jews and that the Jews were “victims.” But that is a lie!

It was the JEWS who wanted to destroy Germany AND ALL Germans so they could control ALL of Europe – and DESTROY another Christian nation, something they unfortunately (for humanity) were able to accomplish AFTER World War II.

The Jews NOW control the government of Germany COMPLETELY!

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.jpg

Jews Declare War Newspaper Clipping:

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/jewsdeclarewar/jewsdeclarewar.jpg

My grandmother was a saint, the finest person I ever knew. She fled Germany. One day , more than 30 years ago, she was talking to my mother about 'things', and she quietly said, 'It was the Jews.' Then she knew she had said too much, and she turned away; end of conversation. I was shocked. I knew what she meant, and I was of course in my brainwashed days, and could not fathom how this could have come from this kind, gentle soul who never did any harm to anyone. Now I know how easily it could have been her and her many brothers and sisters in one of those piles of bodies, not to mention how easily it may be all of us.

Judaic Communism: The Documentary Record The top Communist Judaic official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands; ... http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html

Foreign Press Foundation Ex-KGB and STASI Chiefs To Work Under Chertoff Foreign Press Foundation ... General Yevgeni Primakov, as well as Markus Wolfe, the ex-boss of the ''STASI'',.... http://www.rense.com/general61/work.htm

ZIONISM'S MASTER PLAN FOR WORLD POWER

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/zionisms_master_plan.htm

=============================================

JEWISH PRESIDENTS AND VICE PRESIDENTS [this is only a partial list...there are more]

http://christianparty.net/wm/wm0250a.html

Christian America is the New Israel; the Jews are Magog, Ezekiel 38-39: the Thirteenth Tribe.

The Khazars Kingdom, Gog and Magog, Jewish Khazars Some hold that Gog and Magog are the Khazars. ... Arthur Koestler, author of The Thirteenth Tribe, easily the most expansive single work on the subject, ... http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/library/khazars.html

They cannot succeed, unles CHRISTIAN America fails:

......"Many countries, including the United States have already fallen for our scheming. But the Christian Church is still alive . . . We must destroy it without the least delay and without the slightest mercy. Most of the Press in the world is under our Control; let us therefore encourage in a still more violent way the hatred of the world against the Christian Church. Let us intensify our activities in poisoning the morality of the Gentiles. Let us spread the spirit of revolution in the minds of the people. They must be made to despise Patriotism and the love of their family, to consider their faith as a humbug, their obedience to their Christ as a degrading servility, so that they become deaf to the appeal of the Church and blind to her warnings against us. Let us, above all, make it impossible for Christians to be reunited, or for non-Christians to join the Church; otherwise the greatest obstruction to our domination will be strengthened and all our work undone. Our plot will be unveiled, the Gentiles will turn against us, in the spirit of revenge, and our domination over them will never be realized. Let us remember that as long as there still remain active enemies of the Christian Church, we may hope to become Master of the World . . . And let us remember always that the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown . . . " (London Catholic Gazette, February, 1936; and in Paris Le Reveil du Peuple). luther.htm"

THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm

and therein lies their achilles heel.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-18   11:23:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#71)

In World War II, the JEWS Declared War AGAINST Germany – NOT the other way around, as we have been propagandized to believe! The three main leaders of the allies, U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and the leader of the U.S.S.R., Joseph Stalin, WERE ALL JEWISH!

THEY, the JEWS, declared WAR AGAINST Germany!

International Jewry DECLARED WAR AGAINST Germany and started a boycott of German goods – sabotaging Germany in the war effort. The Jews in Germany became enemies of the state and were placed in concentration camps to work in the factories to build war materials.

England bombed Germany SIX times BEFORE Germany retaliated.

very interesting.

christine  posted on  2007-05-19   0:34:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: christine (#73)

yes it is very interesting....and it shows what a complete grip our ancient enemy has on this country...how many knew it?

reading back over the article, i caught something i missed before:

England had been taken over by the Jews 400 years BEFORE World War II, when the Jew, John Dee (the original 007), was the head of Security for Queen Elizabeth I and convinced her to form a partnership with the Jews (Non-Jewish Monarchs of Europe combined with International Jewry) for the conquering of the WORLD!

i think i may have possibly found the link between Edom ["...is in modern Jewry"] and the [traitorous] Tribe of Dan [ http://www.watch.pair.com/dan.html ], that has eluded me for so long.

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