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Title: Is BeAChooser the new disrupter named 'pinfish' ar LP?
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URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=187542&Disp=16#C16
Published: May 16, 2007
Author: Mike McCarthy
Post Date: 2007-05-16 23:07:07 by Ferret Mike
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Title: Ron Paul Is A Fool Ron Paul said something entirely foolish last night. It should be enough to remove him from all consideration as a candidate for the presidency. Here is what Paul said about 9/11. They attack us because we’ve been over there. We’ve been bombing Iraq for 10 years… Right now, we’re building an embassy in Iraq that is bigger than the Vatican. We’re building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting. They are delighted that we’re over there because — Osama bin Laden has said ‘I’m glad you’re over on our sand because we can target you so much easier.’ They have already now, since that time they’ve killed 3,400 of our men and I don’t think it was necessary. Never mind Paul’s argument from ‘moral equivalence’ that likens American base building to Chinese base building—both nations act exactly the same upon the world stage, don’t you know? Never mind his using a quote from bin-Laden to bolster his case. The man has no idea of the issues involved in the Middle East, is entirely ignorant of its history and should never be trusted with the responsibilities of commander-in-chief. Paul’s response concerning 9/11 is suited to Michael Moore, not to any rational being. He blames his own nation for 9/11. This is the kook argument, castigating the US for all the evils of the world. A very quick history lesson is in order. As Doctor Johnson said, we need to be reminded more than instructed. Islam is an imperialist religion. It makes no secret of this and indeed it boasts about this. The Islamic lands around the Mediterranean were once Christian and were taken by Islam in a series of unprovoked wars from AD 630-732. All except the tiny redoubt of Israel remain Islamic still. The United States had her first contact with Islam in a wars with the Barbary Pirates (1801-05, 1815). Islam attacked our ships, took hostages, demanded tribute and beheaded prisoners. Sound familiar? In other words, before Iraq, before US support of Israel, before any US involvement in the Middle East, Islam was attacking us. It attacks us still. All of this is basic 8th grade US History. Did Paul not pass that year? Ron Paul would be a Republican president, yet he does not know the basic facts about why his own nation fights. He should not be allowed anywhere near the White House. (Captain Ed comments on Ron Paul.) But the Buffoon Of The Year award goes to Ron Paul. His contention that America deserved the 9/11 attack should end his political career. Hopefully it will convince the next forum to exclude him from the proceedings. Paul made everyone else look tolerable, and had most of us yearning for a vaudeville hook.
Poster Comment: There is a new kid in town at elpee. His style and interests strangely mirror that of our resident disruptor BeAChooser. He just signed up and this would make sense seeing how little wiggle room and how unpleasent it has gotten here for BAC. Take a look at the short searh of 'pinfish' and judge for yourself. http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/latestcomments.cgi?SNSearch=1&Fm=pinfish&To=&LPNum=2&
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URL Source: >http://mikeaustin.org/thereturnofscipio/2007/05/16/ron-paul-is-a-fool/
Published: May 16, 2007
Author: >http://mikeaustin.org
Post Date: 2007-05-16 21:13:54 by pinfish
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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 26.
#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Some posters there think he is the 'reincarnation' of some idiot who posted as 'cone of silence'.
I thought about this speculation and did a serch of CofS's posts, and personally, I feel strongly this person much more resembles BAC.
BAC wouldn't know what a "cone of silence" really is.
Yup. Got that one pegged. He's perhaps a world class conehead, but that is about it.
Yup. Got that one pegged. He's perhaps a world class conehead, but that is about it. Notice the large hook echo [tornadic] signature on the doppler reflectivity display just to the SW of the radar site. [The radar site looks black and like the eye of a hurricane. This is the radar cone of silence, the area it can not "see" because it's too close to the radar site.] The next view, we see BAC, as he moves about in his own cone along with his fellow "Log Cabin" replicRats. BAC is the one with his tongue chasing the other guy's a&&: photo credit Log Cabin republican shake and bake campout
Organizers put out 600 folding chairs on the lawn — the spot where presidents are inaugurated — and set up a huge stage with powerful amplifiers. But at 9:30 a.m. yesterday, not one of the 600 seats was occupied. By 11 a.m., as a woman read a passage from Revelations, attendance had grown — to four people. Finally, at 1 p.m., 37 of the 600 seats were occupied, though many of those people were tourists eating lunch. Where was everybody? “This isn’t that kind of event,” explained Jeff Gannon, spokesman for the host, the International Bible Reading Association. Gannon, actually a pseudonym for James Guckert, had earned fame in 2005 representing a conservative Web site at White House briefings until it was revealed that he posted nude pictures of himself on the Web to offer his services as a $200-an-hour gay escort. Let us pray for the power to understand how Gannon made his way from HotMilitaryStud. com to the International Bible Reading Association. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/jeff-gannons-bible-reading-marathon/ Interesting, isn't it? pinfish coyly links to Gannon's webpage and delves into Biblical posts as pinfish. Something Gannon was into as we see in the above quote where he was involved in a ‘Bible Reading Marathon’ on the West Front of the Capitol.” Something is very strange about BeAChooser, and pinfish. And if pinfish is BAC and posts Gannon's webpage and varies slightly from an infactuation with 9-11 to delve into the Bible, something Gannon is into, he likely does so because he is egotistically trying to count coupe on everyone he feels slights him here and whom he feels he is the intellectual superior to. Unfortunately for him, he is far more transparent then he realizes. Gannon alwayd coyly talks about hiding from liberals in plain view. Is this guy him? He might be, he sure acts like he tinks he is a jounalist the way he cuts and pastes a product together in his overlong posts that have the sort of muddledness of over-reaching one's intellectual and educational abilities Gannon was/is always guilty of. Seriously, this person needs to find a new home and to get quality psychological counseling. He is here just playing games and stroking his ego, and you really have to stretch it to contend that by keeping him here you are serving the cause of free speech. Ditch him.
Better than even money you're correct. The conehead with the tongue...slight resemblance? We don't need any gay hookers here. Why can't she post here? ;-O)
No, we don't need this sort of neocon in here. I knew he'd high tail it back to LP with the Truth Movement banished to the Biker Bar. The place is more his sort of dump as Trailer Trash Sally whores her forum as an open to all view points venue. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
Just for the record, I'm not pinfish. I'll say once again, since you seem to have missed my declarations of this in the past (and seem now desperate to change the subject from WTC7, the collapse of the towers and the damage at the Pentagon), that I have never posted on ANY forum as anyone other than BeAChooser. That said, I am curious about something. The two of you ... Ferret Mike and IndieTx ... have insinuated I'm gay. Now, of course, you have no actual basis for suggesting I'm gay. Nowhere in my posting history have I taken much interest in gay issues. Nowhere have I said I'm gay or anything that might suggest I'm gay. You actually know nothing about me since I've been careful not to reveal much of anything about myself on any internet forum. I think for good reason given that they are populated with folks like you. So I find the fact that you (and a few others here at LP) immediately toss out the gay innuendos in your posts, as if you think that will discredit me, quite fascinating. I think we are actually learning more about YOU than me. I think both of you appear to be homophobic. I'm now curious as to what led you to that state. Is there something in your history ... an incident? Or is this attitude something your parents instilled in you? In which case, why did they hate gays so much? Has your God told you this? Do you think gays are inferior as a group (and as individuals) compared to you (and your *kind*)? Are they a corruption ... a blight ... a scourge on the human race? Do you think they should be punished for being gay? If so, how? Should they be rounded up and put in camps? Should they be chemically altered so they are more *normal*? Should they be prevented from voting or being elected to office? Should they be only allowed in the back of the bus or put on separate buses? Aren't you afraid that you might touch something that they've touched? Drink from the same water fountain? Breath the same air? Do you view lesbians the same as gays? Should they ALL be exterminated? Seriously "guys", what is it you have against gays that you'd call someone, when you really know nothing about them, gay ... as if that's a REALLY bad thing? Something beneath contempt. The worst insult you can think of. So why don't you tell us your reasons for thinking that gays are soooooo bad? Because now I'm curious. And since you obviously don't want to talk about WTC7, the collapse of the towers or the damage at the Pentagon any more (ROTFLOL!), this is as good a topic as any.
I have always very consistently stood up for gay rights. I support the new law in Oregon protecting homosexuals from bigotry. I am frosted by people like Bush who work to oppress gays and lesbians, but invite their male prostitutes into the White House so they can have the cake and eat it too. I dpon't like prostitution and hypocritical closet dwellers like Bush and Mark Foley. If you are gay, more power to you. If you are a prostitute and hypocritical about your gender preference, shame on you. Now as far as the thread's speculation, that is what it is. I have the opinion that you are most likely pinfish, but I've been wrong before. So it goes. And finally in regards to 9-11, if you would stop spamming so unnessesarily and answer my posts on the points I inquire regarding, I'd certainly be happy to discuss it with you. But as it stands, the way you post makes the process of dialog with you very difficult to do. And my opinion is you do this by design. If you want to return to that topic, I'd be happy to. But I have no desire to be hit with mega posts of material that can be linked to instead. I am reacting to how anti-social and hard to deal with you are. The ball is in your court, just let me know how agreeable in responding positively to my feedback you are and we'll go from there.
Such a claim is inconsistent with making "gay" your preferred adhominem on the 4um against someone who you know nothing about and who just disagrees with you on a number of issues that have nothing to do with homosexuality. As I just got done telling another homophobe, I have espoused the following views: - that the *truth* movement is currently based on lies and misinformation. - that we had good reasons to invade Iraq. - that we have good reasons to not cut and run now. - that democRATS are much worse then Republicans on many issues. - that Ron Brown may have been murdered - that liberalism is not a solution to much of anything. - and that the media is liberally biased on numerous issues including the war. And you have disagreed with many of those views. We've had some spirited debates. And in each case, I've shown that much of what you believe is simply false. But rather than continue to debate the topics in a friendly manner, by offering facts and logic of your own, your response has turned to starting a rather nasty thread claiming with the slimmest of *evidence* that I'm some poster named pinfish at LP, demanding I be banned ... and calling me gay ... as if that's something especially bad. Which leads me back to wondering why you think homosexuality is a bad thing, ferret. Are you? That claim quite seems inconsistent with your efforts to kick me off this forum while at the same time making a big deal about me being gay. Do you wish to oppress me because you THINK I'm gay? Well how generous of you. But that still leaves the question why you brought assertions that I'm gay into the debate in the first place? And did it in a fashion that strongly suggests you think gayness is a very bad thing. What is the deep seated source of your dislike of gays, ferret? A bad experience? Religious teachings? Or, like some psychologists think, do you fear you yourself might be gay and are using the tactic as a defense mechanism? By calling me gay. Do you think all gays are anti-social and hard to deal with? What experience led you to believe that? No ferret ... the ball is in YOUR court. If you want to discuss any of the subjects I listed above, I'll be happy too. But if you want to make assertions that I'm gay the subject, we will most definitely explore why you think that necessary.
I speculated on who might be Jeff Gannon. The only negative behavior I focused on is Gannon's self serving and unethical nature. He would oppress others like him to get a social advantage with someone who has given good, stout reason to suspect he is of a class of people whom he works to oppress and treat as second class citizens. I actually do not care if Bush or Gannon are gay. But I do care about hypocrisy and treating people like you worse then you expect to be treated. As far as you go, speculation is just that, and I have zero Idea whom you are beyond circumstantial evidence such as perhaps the fact both you and Gannon have worked with software and the other things I pointed out. And I said nothing to you worse the you can withstand easily, as you seem to be trying to coldly distort and exploit things to your benefit as cynically and sociopathically as you ever have.
#33. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#26)
No, on this thread you did this: ********** 8. To: garryowen (#0) Here is a post BAC did as pinfish at LP complete with it's link. Wouldn't be a kick if this little turd brained idiot is Gannon or an associate of his? It would explain much about the idiot. ;-) Ferret Mike posted on 2007-05-17 1:08:43 ET ********** You are trying to weasel out of what you did, ferret. No, what you did was focus on Gannon's supposed hypocrisy where gayness is concerned and then link it to me. Well good. Then we can finally agree on something. You can speculate all you want about Bush and Gannon when it comes to gayness ... but don't bring my screenname into it. If you do, we will continue this.
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#4. To: who knows what evil (#1)
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"Some posters there think he is the 'reincarnation' of some idiot who posted as 'cone of silence'."
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)
#9. To: IndieTX (#6)
"BAC wouldn't know what a "cone of silence" really is."
#10. To: Ferret Mike, all (#9)
"BAC wouldn't know what a "cone of silence" really is."
#12. To: IndieTX, Minerva, christine. (#10)
Jeff Gannon’s ‘Bible Reading Marathon.’ Dana Milbank writes, “Let us pray that, on next year’s National Day of Prayer, there is better attendance at the ‘Bible Reading Marathon’ on the West Front of the Capitol.”
#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
BAC/pinfish is Gannon
#15. To: IndieTX (#13)
#16. To: Ferret Mike, IndieTX, christine, ALL (#15)
#17. To: BeAChooser (#16)
(Edited)
"That said, I am curious about something. The two of you ... Ferret Mike and IndieTx ... have insinuated I'm gay."
#21. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#17)
I have always very consistently stood up for gay rights. I support the new law in Oregon protecting homosexuals from bigotry.
I am frosted by people like Bush who work to oppress gays and lesbians,
If you are gay, more power to you.
I am reacting to how anti-social and hard to deal with you are.
The ball is in your court, just let me know how agreeable in responding positively to my feedback you are and we'll go from there.
#26. To: BeAChooser (#21)
"Well how generous of you. But that still leaves the question why you brought assertions that I'm gay into the debate in the first place? And did it in a fashion that strongly suggests you think gayness is a very bad thing. What is the deep seated source of your dislike of gays, ferret? A bad experience? Religious teachings? Or, like some psychologists think, do you fear you yourself might be gay and are using the tactic as a defense mechanism?"
Replies to Comment # 26. I speculated on who might be Jeff Gannon.
Jeff Gannon offers Jerry Falwell prayers and condolences.
pinfish posted on 2007-05-15 14:22:17 ET
The only negative behavior I focused on is Gannon's self serving and unethical nature.
I actually do not care if Bush or Gannon are gay.
But I do care about hypocrisy and treating people like you worse then you expect to be treated.
End Trace Mode for Comment # 26.