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Title: Cheney lawyer: Client is immune from ALL lawsuits
Source: WP
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 007051701400.html?hpid=topnews
Published: May 17, 2007
Author: NA
Post Date: 2007-05-17 18:13:04 by Mekons4
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Views: 173
Comments: 7

Attorneys for Vice President Cheney and top White House officials told a federal judge today they cannot be held liable for anything they disclosed to reporters about covert CIA officer Valerie Plame or her husband, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV.

The officials, who include senior White House adviser Karl Rove and Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, argued that the judge should dismiss a lawsuit filed by Wilson that stemmed from the disclosure of Plame's identity to the media.

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The suit claims that Cheney, Libby, Rove and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage violated the couple's privacy and constitutional rights by publicly revealing Plame's identity in an effort to retaliate against Wilson. Plame's identity was disclosed in a syndicated column in July 2003, days after Wilson publicly accused the Bush administration of twisting intelligence to exaggerate Iraq's nuclear threat and justify an attack on Baghdad.

Libby was convicted in March of lying to a grand jury investigating the leak.

Attorneys for Cheney and the other officials said any conversations they had about Plame with each other and reporters were part of their normal job duties because they were discussing foreign policy and engaging in an appropriate "policy dispute." Cheney's attorney went farther, arguing that Cheney is legally akin to the president because of his unique government role, and has absolute immunity from any lawsuit.

"So you're arguing there is nothing -- absolutely nothing - these officials could have said to reporters that would have been beyond the scope of their employment [whether it was] true or false?," U.S. District Judge John D. Bates asked.

"That's true, your honor. Mr. Wilson was criticizing government policy," said Jeffrey S. Bucholtz, Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's civil division. "These officials were responding to that criticism."

Erwin Chemerinsky, a Duke University law professor who represents Wilson and Plame, said the leak was no typical policy debate. President Bush himself said that revealing Plame's identity could be illegal conduct and a firing offense, he told Bates.

Chemerinsky said that after Plame's CIA cover was blown the couple feared for their safety and their children's safety, and Plame lost any opportunity for advancement at the CIA.

"This isn't a case where the government said mean things about Mr. Wilson. This is about revealing the secret status of his wife to punish Mr. Wilson, " Chemerinsky said. "In the end, this is egregious conduct that ruined a woman's career and put a family in danger."

Bates, who expressed doubts about arguments on both sides, said he will rule on whether to dismiss the case in coming weeks.

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#1. To: Mekons4 (#0)

Un - FREAKING - believable

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-17   18:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mekons4 (#0)

Bates, who expressed doubts about arguments on both sides, said he will rule on whether to dismiss the case in coming weeks.

I guess the fix is in.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-05-17   19:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Mekons4 (#0)

"That's true, your honor. Mr. Wilson was criticizing government policy," said Jeffrey S. Bucholtz, Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's civil division. "These officials were responding to that criticism."

This wasn't a Cheney lawyer. It was a government lawyer, in Gonzales's DOJ.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-05-17   19:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#3)

This wasn't a Cheney lawyer. It was a government lawyer, in Gonzales's DOJ.

And the difference is...?

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-17   19:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: aristeides (#3)

He's representing Cheney, Libby et al.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-05-17   19:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mekons4, *Plamegate* (#0)

Erwin Chemerinsky, a Duke University law professor who represents Wilson and Plame, said the leak was no typical policy debate. President Bush himself said that revealing Plame's identity could be illegal conduct and a firing offense, he told Bates.

Chemerinsky said that after Plame's CIA cover was blown the couple feared for their safety and their children's safety, and Plame lost any opportunity for advancement at the CIA.

"This isn't a case where the government said mean things about Mr. Wilson. This is about revealing the secret status of his wife to punish Mr. Wilson, " Chemerinsky said. "In the end, this is egregious conduct that ruined a woman's career and put a family in danger."

I'm glad they have a really good lawyer.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-17   21:08:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Mekons4 (#0)

"That's true, your honor. Mr. Wilson was criticizing government policy," said Jeffrey S. Bucholtz, Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's civil division. "These officials were responding to that criticism."

A solution to these problems is to make an example of a couple of these DOJ fukks and then let's see how brazen they try to be.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-05-18   9:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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