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Published: May 21, 2007
Author: David Duke
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Should Christians support Israel? by David Duke MP3 Streaming Download MP3 file In the conversation with Nixon, Rev. Billy Graham, the Southern Baptist evangelist expressed disdain for what he saw as Jewish domination of the media. “This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country’s going down the drain,” Graham said, agreeing with Nixon’s comments earlier in the conversation. “You believe that?” Nixon says in response. “Yes, sir,” says Graham. “Oh boy. So do I,” Nixon agrees, then says: “I can’t ever say that, but I believe it.” (From the Associated Press) I am a Christian, but I must also state that I am tolerant of other religious beliefs, and I am committed to the right of people to have and practice whatever religious belief they so choose. Freedom of thought, conscience, belief and speech is fundamental to traditional European communities. I oppose religious intolerance, just as I oppose political tyranny and the suffocating encroachment of world government. Although Europe has suffered from times of political and religious oppression, Western civilization from its classical roots in Greece and Rome to modern Europe has been the most ardent defender of freedom of thought and conscience. It is no accident that the most isolated pocket of ancient Europeans, Iceland, has the longest standing parliament in the world. I seldom delve into religious matters, as I don’t have the honor of being a pastor or priest. However, policies of the Christian churches are critical to the well-being of European Americans as the overwhelming majority of Europeans are Christian as I am. Organized Christian churches have dramatic influence on our society, especially in America. On some matters, I feel I must speak out both as a Christian and as a European American. Recently, I have been shocked and appalled by the unqualified support by some Christian televangelists for the most anti-Christian religion on the face of the earth, Judaism. They also support the corrupt, Jewish supremacist, anti-Christian Israeli state. I know that some of you reading this may respond by saying that Islam is really the most anti-Christian religion and that Judaism is a friendly faith. Many mistakenly think that Judaism is a sister religion to Christianity. The term “Judeo-Christian” has entered our modern lexicon to the point where no politician, George Bush on down, would dare even invoke the term “Christian heritage” without adding the prefix, “Judeo” to it. The term “Judeo-Christian” didn’t even come into existence until after the Second World War when Jews became supreme in their influence over major media. The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. That would be like saying Satanic-Christianity. The religion now called Judaism did not even come formally into existence until six hundred years after Jesus Christ. It began with the codification of the Babylonian Talmud. In Judaism, the Talmud is the supreme scripture, not the Old Testament. Only Satanism can rival Judaism’s vicious hatred for Jesus Christ. The Talmud even claims that Jesus Christ is being punished in hell by “being boiled in hot semen!”1 When I first read this hateful Talmudic quote, I just couldn’t believe it. Maybe you don’t believe what I am saying right now, but read on and I will prove to you that this quotation is accurate and that Judaism is intrinsically and viciously anti-Christian. Judaism it the embodiment of the same Satanic tradition that Christ condemned when He referred to “the synagogue of Satan.” (Rev. 2-9) What I say here I can prove in the documented words of the most sacred texts of Judaism and in the clearly documented words of the highest authorities of Judaism itself, and even more importantly, in the scriptures of the New Testament. Interestingly enough, Islam is much closer to Christianity than Judaism. For instance, Judaism condemns the Virgin Mary as a prostitute and viciously condemns Jesus an evil sorcerer and a bastard. The Talmud even claims Jesus was a sexual pervert who had intercourse relations with his donkey. In stark contrast, although Islam certainly does not share all the Christian views of Jesus Christ, it views Christ as a true prophet of God, virgin-born, and that God resurrected Jesus from the dead. Ironically, the chief religious book of Islam, the Qur’an, actually defends Jesus Christ from the obscene slanders made against Him in the Jewish Talmud. I know that I am shocking many of you who are hearing this for the first time. I am sure some of you are thinking that this cannot be true! I don’t blame you for thinking so because many of you have never been told of these facts by the Jewish-dominated media or by the televangelists. So, I will document these things for you right now in the little space I have here. Also, remember that for a more complete and thorough documentation of this issue, you can go to my chapter on Judaism and Christianity in my autobiography, My Awakening. You can also find it in my new book, Jewish Supremacism. The chapter on Judaism found in My Awakening is at http://www.duke.org/awakening/chapter17_01.html. It is fully documented and footnoted. The Talmud not the Torah (Bible) is the chief authority of Judaism Most Christians are under the impression that Judaism is primarily based on the biblical Old Testament. Actually the ultimate authority for Judaism is not the Bible but on what they call the Babylonian Talmud, a series of writings set down in Babylon in the sixth century after Christ. The American Heritage Dictionary describes the Talmud as “constituting the basis of religious authority for traditional Judaism.” The authoritative Universal Jewish Encyclopedia compiled by the leading Rabbinic organizations of the world, makes it very clear that the Talmud, not the Torah or Old Testament, is the supreme authority for Judaism. “Thus the ultimate authority for Orthodoxy is the Babylonian Talmud. The Bible itself ranks second to it in reality, if not in theory. (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, “Authority” pg. 637) 2 What does the Talmud, the chief authority of Judaism, have to say about Jesus Christ? Balaam [Jesus] fornicated with his jackass. (Sanhedrin 105a-b)3 Jewish priests raised Balaam [Jesus] from the dead and punished him in boiling hot semen.(57a Gittin)4 She who was the descendant of princes and governors [The Virgin Mary] played the harlot with a carpenter. (Sanhedrin 106a) [Jesus] was lowered into a pit of dung up to his armpits. Then a hard cloth was placed within a soft one, wound round his neck, and the two ends pulled in opposite directions until he was dead. (Sanhedrin 52b) 5 Now obviously, I am not saying that all Jews share this hateful attitude toward Jesus Christ, but the official position of Judaism is defined by the quotations I just read. Obviously, it is important that Jewish groups don’t let Christians know the truth about the hateful Judaic attitude toward Jesus Christ. Some Jews seek to deflect Christian criticism by saying that Balaam was not the name that Jews used to denote Christ. Yet, no less a major authority than the Jewish Encyclopedia, an encyclopedia compiled by the leading rabbinic organizations in the world, says that Balaam is the name they use to denote Jesus Christ. Under the heading “Balaam,” it says, “…the pseudonym ‘Balaam’ given to Jesus in Sanhedrin 106b and Gittin 57a.”6 Such use of deceptive terms such as “Balaam” was a common practice in the middle ages as Jews tried to disguise their anti-Jesus and anti-Christian hatred from Gentiles who might dare to pry into the Talmud. Now some Christians might think that these are simply old beliefs of the Jewish religion, and that Judaism might have softened its attitudes toward Jesus Christ and Christians. In actual fact, these are the formal policies of the Israeli state. In fact, In Jewish schools in Israel it is forbidden to even read from the New Testament gospels or even mention the name of Jesus Christ. It is even a criminal offense in Israel for a Christian to preach the salvation of Jesus Christ to a Jew. Israel so hates the Christian cross that they have specified that elementary schools use a “T” instead of a plus sign because it so resembles the hated Christian cross! The Israeli government has even supported public burnings of the New Testament! One of the Jews I have most respected, the man to whom I dedicated my book, Jewish Supremacism, is the late Dr. Israel Shahak. He was a holocaust survivor and professor at Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Professor Shahak reported that the Zionists publicly and ceremoniously burned hundreds of copies of the New Testament in Jerusalem on March 23, 1980. They were destroyed under the auspices of Yad Le’akhim, a Jewish religious organization subsidized by the Israeli Ministry of Religions.7 Here are some direct quotations from this courageous Jew, Professor Israel Shahak: Judaism is imbued with a very deep hatred toward Christianity combined with ignorance about it. This attitude was clearly aggravated by the Christian persecutions of Jews, but is largely independent of them. In fact, it dates from the time when Christianity was still weak and persecuted (not least by Jews), and it was shared by Jews who had never been persecuted by Christians or who were even helped by them… According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the Talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned. . . The very name Jesus was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable, and this popular tradition still persists. The Gospels are equally detested, and they are not allowed to be quoted (let alone taught) even in modern Israeli schools. 8 To think that this is the same anti-Christian, Israeli government that some Christian ministers want us to support with American tax dollars! Dr. Shahak also exposes the vicious hatred against Christians taught to Jewish Children in Israel: Jewish children are actually taught - passages such as that which commands every Jew, whenever passing near a cemetery, to utter a blessing if it is Jewish, but to curse the mothers of the dead if it is non-Jewish. . . it became customary to spit (usually three times) upon seeing a church or a crucifix …9 Imagine for a moment if Christians were taught that when they pass Jewish cemeteries they should “curse the mothers of the dead” and that they should spit three times when seeing a synagogue or a Star of David. Would not the media react to that kind of vicious hatred with outrage? Evangelical leaders such as Falwell would forcefully condemn Christians who would utter such vile curses against Jews, but why don’t they dare condemn the hatred of Jews who utter vile curses against Christians. Not only does Israel act against Christianity, so does every major organized Jewish group in the United States. The American Jewish Committee, the ADL (Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith) and a host of other Jewish organizations in America have been at the forefront destroying Christian traditions in the United States. They have led the fight, not only to ban simple prayers in school, but even to prohibit Christmas carols to be sung in schools or in any public facility. They have been the leaders of the movement for legalized abortion, something which every evangelical opposes. They have been at the forefront of the cultural war that Jewish Hollywood has waged against Christian tradition, belief and ethics. Jews also led early Bolshevism in Russia, which was the greatest suppressor and mass murderer of Christians in the history of the world. Millions of Christians were murdered by the Jewish Bolsheviks. And now, some evangelical leaders such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are urging Christians to financially support Israel and the Jewish supremacist establishment around the world, by far the most powerful enemy of Jesus Christ on the planet. By supporting anti-Christian Israel, they are directly supporting the murder, torture and oppression of thousands of our fellow Christians in the Mideast. Falwell and Robertson have not informed their flocks that large numbers of Palestinians are Christians. For instance, in the birthplace of Jesus Christ, Bethlehem, Palestinian Christians have historically been a majority of the population, a figure that is dropping rapidly because of their abandonment by evangelicals like Falwell and Robertson. What kind of Christian chooses to support murderous anti-Christian extremist Jews rather then their own Christian brethren. It is no wonder that Christianity is losing ground in the Mideast, when major Christian leaders will support the killing of Palestinian Christians by anti-Christian, Israeli Jews. When Israel indiscriminately sends bombs and missiles and bullets into Palestinian neighborhoods, many of the children and adults murdered are in fact, Christians. Maranatha Christian Journal had a report entitled: Palestinian Christians Claim Western Church Ignores Them. It quotes Husam Misleh of a Christian Palestinian organization called the American Federation of Ramallah, headquartered in Detroit, Michigan. “(Conservative Protestant leaders) Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are on the air all the time portraying Israel to be our best friend; at the same time, there are Palestinian Christians dying daily, and they don’t speak out on that subject at all. It’s an atrocity in itself.” The article goes on to quote Rateb Rabie, director of the Holy Land Ecumenical Foundation in Silver Spring, Maryland. “It breaks your heart when you get calls every day from churches (in the Holy Land), and the priests and the clergy are asking for help, and you are tied here; you cannot help them.” Just a few weeks ago, Israelis were firing, bombing and killing Christians in Bethlehem and even laying siege to one of the most holy sites of Christianity, the birthplace of Jesus Christ, the Church of the Nativity. It turned my stomach to turn on the TV and see Evangelical leaders such a Falwell and Robertson telling Christians to send more money to the anti-Christian Jewish state of Israel which at that moment was murdering and terrorizing Christians in the very birthplace of Christ. Not only do these pro-Israel ministers immorally support the suppression and murder of our fellow Christians in Palestine, they spread the easily refuted lie that modern Jews are currently God’s Chosen people. Traditional Christian theology for almost 2000 years has held that God had a covenant with the tribes of Israel, and that after the Jews broke that covenant and crucified Jesus Christ, God then made a new covenant based on belief in Jesus Christ. The book of Hebrews in the New Testament makes this abundantly clear. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord when I will make a new covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers, in the day when I took them by the hand out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. (Hebrews 8:6-7, 9-10) 10 There is no way a Christian who reads the scripture can get around the fact that God views the Jews as having, “continued not in my covenant.” Of course, God made the New Covenant for Israelites and everyone else that was solely based on faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. That whole idea is one of the founding principles of the Christian religion and one understood by almost every Christian, until the distortions and lies of the last 30 years, the thirty years since the Jewish supremacists obtained control of the American media establishment. Another clear scripture tells the story of the true Christian viewpoint toward organized Jewish power. . . .for you suffered like things of your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out and displease God, and oppose all men. . . But God’s wrath has come upon them at last.(1 Thessalonians 2:14-16)11 The Palestinians can certainly relate to that scriptural quote. Read it again and let it sink in. If this exact quote was made by any man in politics in America or the Christian clergy he would be condemned as a quote “anti-Semite,” yet these are the exact words of the Holy Scripture. Is the Holy Scripture anti-Semitic? Have not the Palestinian Christians and the Muslims suffered from the Jews, who have been and remain enemies of Christianity and Jesus Christ? Have they not been driven out? Tens of thousands of Palestinian Christians have been murdered, maimed and tortured: tens of thousands more have been driven out by Jewish terrorism from their homes, their businesses, their farms. The process goes on even as I speak these very words. Israeli murder and mayhem, curfews, suppression have the purpose of driving out the Palestinians who naturally want a decent life for themselves and their children in the land of their fathers. For evangelical Christians to support these atrocities against their own Christian brethren or indeed against people of any faith is the height of un-Christian immorality. And that brings me to another myth being promoted by the Jewish, anti-Christian media and parroted by the preachers who are subservient to the anti-Christ, Jewish supremacists. We constantly hear how the biggest enemy of Christianity and America are Muslims. The truth is that although Muslims do not share all Christian beliefs, Islam is far closer to Christianity than Judaism. I already quoted the obscene attacks made on Jesus Christ by the Jewish Talmud. How many American Christians even realize that the Holy Qur’an of Islam actually defends Jesus Christ and His mother Mary from the hateful slanders of Judaism? As I pointed out earlier, the Talmud claims that the Gospels lie about the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The Talmud actually boasts that the Jews and not the Romans were the ones who actually nailed Jesus to the Cross. These Talmudic Jews hate Jesus so much that they want to take all the credit for his murder. Amazingly, the Islamic holy book, the Qur’an disputes this Jewish lie and actually defends the truth of the gospel. They (Jews) have incurred divine displeasure: in that they broke the covenant… And little is it they believe. That they rejected faith and they uttered against Mary a grave false charge… That they said (in boast) “we killed Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah- but they killed him not, nor crucified him. But so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts… (Sura 4 AlNisa 153- 159) If you are an evangelical Christian, do you still need more proof of the anti-Christian evil of Israel? A perfect example can be found in one of the evil tactics that Israel uses to destroy Palestinian resistance. The French Press Agency (AFP), much like AP in the United States, of March 2, 2002, had a report on the Israeli occupation of Ramallah last year. I quote: In the recent Israeli occupation of the Palestinian town Ramallah, the army took over three of the four television stations. In control of the three stations, Al-Watan, Amway, and Al-Sharaq channels. The Israelis began broadcasting hard-core pornography into the Palestinian homes beginning about 3:30 pm in the first day of their occupation. The reaction of the devoutly religious Palestinians, both Christian and Muslim, to the Israeli pornography been pointed. The article quotes a some of the Palestinians on this latest Israeli outrage, I quote: Anita, a 52-year-old mother of three children, complained about “the deliberate psychological damage caused by these broadcasts”. “I am furious, these are the people who are shooting at us that also play this disgusting trick on us,” she said. Yes, the supposedly moral, upstanding nation of Israel that some Christian televangelist leaders support, is broadcasting hardcore pornography as part of their war to destroy the Palestinian people. Next time a Christian minister says we should support Israel; ask him if we should send our money to Israel so that it can broadcast hardcore pornography to Palestinian Christian and Muslim children. There are two things you always hear from those ministers who support anti-Christian Israel: (1) that the Jews of today are the “chosen people of God” and have a covenant with God that we must respect, and: (2) that the Bible says that, “I will bless thee that blesses you and curse thee that curses you.” As I showed earlier, clear New Testament scripture quotes Jesus as saying that the Jews “whose fathers were led out of the land of Egypt” had “no longer continued in God’s covenant saith The Lord.” The coming of Jesus Christ made a new covenant for those Israelites and for all people who accepted the salvation of Christ. Belief in Jesus Christ is the one and only requirement to join the New Covenant. Those who don’t accept Jesus Christ are clearly not in this New Covenant. Those who embrace Judaism, a religion that hates and rejects Jesus Christ are certainly not in this New Covenant. Those who believe in Jesus Christ have become the Chosen of God, the elect, regardless of ethnic descent. By Christian principle, those that hate Jesus Christ are obviously in the service of Satan and not God and His son and are certainly not in the Covenant. Christ himself describes them as “the Synagogue of Satan.” The fact that the New Testament in Revelation suggests that a small number of Jews will repent and accept Christ at the end of times does not change the fact that Jews who embrace anti-Christian Judaism have become the enemies of God and the allies of Satan. To support anti-Christian Jews in their evil actions against Christians and Christianity is a betrayal of Jesus Christ Himself! Arguing that we should support a man’s evil deeds because the man doing it may someday repent is insane. A perfect example of this flawed and very anti-Christian belief can be found the statements made by Jerry Falwell last year. Falwell said that the New Testament prophesies the rise of a Jewish Anti-Christ born in what is today’s Israel. Falwell and other evangelists say that this Anti-Christ will murder and torture millions of Christians all over the world and install a horrific, Satanic rule over the world for seven years. The rise of the anti-Christ will foretell Christ’s return and the establishment of a kingdom of God. Of course, Jewish leaders condemned Falwell’s statement even though he has been one of the biggest supporters of Israel. Quote: “‘We deplore the equation of an ultimate figure of evil with a Jewish individual, especially when made by an individual as prominent as Rev. Falwell is on the religious right,’ B’nai B’rith International President Richard D. Heideman said in a statement” (Caryle Murphy, The Washington Post, January 23, 1999). If indeed the Anti-Christ is Jewish and is from modern Israel, are we not actually supporting him by supporting Israel and anti-Christian Judaism? Are we supposed to aid the Anti-Christ to come to power and support his evil actions because he is prophesied? Are not Christians commanded to oppose evil? Because Satan is prophesied to rule over the earth for seven years, are Christians supposed to support Satan? That is the craziest, anti-Christian idea I have ever heard, but that is precisely what Falwell and others are suggesting! Falwell and Robertson who support anti-Christian Israel are actually supporting the biggest enemies of Christianity and Jesus on earth! And I can tell you why they deny the clear teachings of Jesus in the New Testament. It is because they know that if they dare to criticize the evil, anti-Christian teachings of Judaism and Israel, the Jewish power in America will destroy them. Even though Judaists hate the fundamentalist Christian teachings of Falwell and Robertson. they tolerate these subservient preachers because they mislead millions of Christians to support anti-Christian Israel! Let me now address the other constantly used quote from the Old Testament about “blessing those who bless thee and cursing those who curse thee.” This scripture refers to blessing the true descendants of God’s word, those Israelites and all people who accept the salvation of Jesus Christ. If this quotation actually refers to modern day anti-Christian, Judaism and Jews, I have a simple response. Since the Second World War, America has never in its history more blessed the Jew. Extremist Jews have risen to supremacy over our news media, movies, over our government, and almost all aspects of our culture. Without the massive support America has given to Israel, it wouldn’t even exist. Now the question is, “Where are the blessings that we are supposed to receive from blessing the supremacist Jews? Is our blessing the tens of millions of aborted babies that evangelicals claim have been murdered, a mass murder that many evangelicals say is the greatest Holocaust in the history of the world? Is our blessing in the massive pornography and immorality inundating our nation from Jewish-run Hollywood and the Jewish dominated porn industry? Is our blessing the greatest number of broken families and greatest drug abuse of any nation on earth? Is our blessing that our America leads the world in violent crime; including rape, murder and assault of the innocent? Is our blessing the first mass-murder of thousands of Americans in the blowing up the World Trade Center? Is our blessing the new PATRIOT ACT that takes away our most sacred Constitutional rights and liberties? Are these the blessing we are supposed to receive from blessing anti-Christian Judaism and the anti-Christian state of Israel? Are these the blessings we receive from helping Anti-Christian, extremist Jews kill and maim, torture and oppress tens of thousands of Christian Palestinian men, women and children? Most Americans and Europeans are Christians as I am; that’s why I have devoted this broadcast to discussing this critical issue. I also know that many listeners are not Christian and I know that I even have many Muslim listeners and indeed people of many different faiths all over the world. I hope this message has been enlightening to you as well as for Christians. For if Jewish power can so effectively corrupt Christian leaders to deny the founding principles of the Christian faith, a faith that even the Jews claim has historically been the most vigilant enemy of Judaism, they can certainly undermine any religious faith in the world. They have learned how to infiltrate, bribe and corrupt by their great power men who should be in service of both God and truth. The evil elements which opposed Jesus Christ and orchestrated his crucifixion were of course the Pharisees, the very body which created modern Judaism and its Talmud six centuries after Jesus Christ. Jesus rebuked them in the same way as should every true Christian leader of the 21st Century. …Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me. …Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. …Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou are a Samaritan, and has a devil…(John 8:42-48)12 May all of us, religious or not, have the strength and the courage to use the truth to defend our people from the fathers of the lie. There are a number of Christian ministers from many denominations who courageously stand up to the Jewish corruption of our Christian faith. They, and many Christian lay men dare to tell the truth about the Jews, face the same slanders and hatred that Christ faced. The New Testament repeatedly warns us of their power. Yet for fear of the Jews, no man spoke openly of him. (John 7:13) “Fear of the Jews” is just as real today as when at the when Jesus Christ walked the earth. Their great power to intimidate, slander, imprison and even murder is as great today as it was in those ancient times. We must understand that it is not only the Palestinians who are occupied by Jewish power, it is America, too. Until we stand up to their power, there will be no freedom for the occupied West Bank of the Jordan River or the Jewish-occupied East Bank of the Potomac, the heart of the federal government. So this broadcast is dedicated and directed to my Christian listeners. May we not let “Fear of the Jews” prevent us from doing what’s right. Sincerely, David Duke Footnotes Talmud Sanhedrin, Simon, M. Trans. (1936). 57a Gittin. London. Soncino Press. p.261 Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, “Authority” p. 637 Talmud, Sanhedrin (1935). Soncino Edition. 105a-b. p.717. Simon, M. Trans. (1936). 57a Gittin. London. Soncino Press. p.261. Talmud, Sanhedrin (1935). Soncino Edition. 52b. p.356. Jewish Encyclopedia. (1907). Balaam. p.469. Shahak, I. (1994). Jewish History, Jewish Religion. p.21. Shahak, I. (1994). Jewish History, Jewish Religion. 97-98. Shahak, I. (1994). Jewish History, Jewish Religion. 23 & 93. KJV Hebrews 8:6-7, 9-10, and 13. RSV 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16. KJV John 8:42-48. Broadcast Date 01-25-2003 – Visit the David Duke and EURO online catalog at http://www.davidduke.net Read past articles by David Duke about terrorism and Sept 11 at: http://www.davidduke.com/writings/israeliarticles.shtml Learn more about EURO online at: http://www.whitecivilrights.com Join EURO online at: http://www.whitecivilrights.com/join.shtml Contribute online at: http://www.whitecivilrights.com/donate.shtml
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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)
In a word, no.
Laws are like spiderwebs; they hold the weak and delicate who are caught in their meshes, but are torn apart by the rich and powerful.-Anacharsis.
This is an issue an increasing number of Christians are struggling with...offending the Creator is a risk none of them wish to take.
Christians supporting Israel on the grounds that Judaism is a precursor to Christianity makes no more sense than asking Muslims to support the Crusades on the grounds that Christianity was in a sense a precursor to Islam.
The majority of people that support Israel are not christian zionists, they are secular zionists. Believe it or not, some of the dumbest zionist supporters believe in the validity of both christian zionism AND secular zionism. Some blacks and women come to mind as dual philosophy believers. Secular zionists are Holocaust myth believers and victim cult sympathizers. Christopher Hitchens is a loud-mouthed example of a secular zionist. Victim cultists are people that function politically such that their membership will reliably trade votes for legal privileges guaranteed by a centralized, totalitarian government. Jews and sex-perverts are the leadership of the secular zionists. Delusional, bible mythology preachers are the leadership of the christian zionists. Christopher Hithchens is a note worthy example of a secular zionist casting an accusing finger at christian zionists. Hitchens is typical of many secular zionists; they are scumbags that pretend they have no responsibility for the multitude of evils perpetrated by secular zionists. Hitchens is a cowardly drunk that waited until the death of a christian zionist leader before he publicly pissed on his grave. The majority victim cult is the successor to the political culture that jews formerly promoted in the past, otherwise known popularly as communism, but much more accurately described as a majority poverty cult. You may not have noticed, but Jews have switched political horses after WWII; they have replaced their majority poverty cult of communism with their new-and- improved majority victim cult of democracy. The US has replaced the Soviet Union as the latest guinea pig for yet another jewish class-cult supremacy experiment! A leopard never changes it's stripes, it merely adapts it's game plan.
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Secular Zionists fall into two broad categories in US politics - old fashioned leftists like Alan Dershowitz, and "neoconservatives" like the Kristol and Podhoretz clans. The first group is responsible for Democratic support for Israel, the second group has forged an alliance with Dispensationalist Nutjobs like Falwell to push the GOP into AIPAC's hands (until the 1980's, many prominent Republican politicians wanted to cut Israel loose). The alliance between secular, Trotskyite neoconservatives and Christian Zionists is tenuous, since the CZ's want to convert the Jews and the neoconservatives believe in Marx's "religion is the opium of the masses." Perhaps Hitchens' smearjob on Falwell will help break the up unholy neocon/CZ alliance?
To plagiarize part of my own post of 5/17: The very idea of “Judeo-Christianity” is a fallacy concocted right after WW II to foster unity between American Christians and Jews, after couple of million Jews were killed by European Christians. The Germans did most of the work, while the French gave a Gallic shrug, and the Scandinavians said ho-hum, who gives a shit. As a historical fact, to a lot of Judaic theologians (Rabbis, I guess) the whole notion of “Judeo-Christian” anything was absurd. Look it up!
Judeo-christianity is a literal belief that the biblical old testament is historical fact. Judeo-christian values or morality has little or nothing to do with belief in jesus as a messiah. In judeo-christian philosophy, jesus is just another run-of-the-mill jew. If jesus were a central belief to judeo-christianity, it would have been called judeo-jeshuaism, not judeo-christianity. Judeo-christianity literally means jewish-messiah. It's fairly obvious that modern jews interpret judeo-christianity to mean jews, as a collective, are a messiah to themselves and the rest of the world of nations. The bible, in particular the old testament, is jewish tribal mythology. The jewish god is a tribal god, and certainly not a universal god. Judeo-christians don't believe in jesus as a messiah, they believe in jews collectively as a messiah. Judeo-christians are infantile, but they are not the majority of zionists. The majority of zionists are SECULAR-SECULAR-SECULAR! Secular zionism is led by jews and homosexuals, in particular male homosexuals. Secular zionism is composed of victim cultists. Victim cultists are infantile holocaust myth believers, and weak-minded and weak-bodied people that will reliably vote themselves legal privileges guaranteed by a totalitarian central government. Victim cultists are the vast majority of voters in the US. Jews know this as a fact, and exploit it. Holocaust mythology is designed so that victim-cultists will empathize, and accept jews as fellow cult members and leaders. Women, blacks, homosexuals, jews, hispanics, and handicapped are the core membership of the American victim cult. These victim groups are why jewish organizations promote strong central government laws that prohibit discrimination based on gender (women), race (black), sexual orientation (homosexual), religion (jewish), ethnicity (hispanic), disability (handicapped). These discrimination laws are just one kind of multiple legal sops that jewish organizations promote as payoffs for their cultists....payoffs for voting the right way. Women alone are a simple majority of voters, and women vote at a higher rate than men. Secular zionists know this as a fact and exploit it. Jews are class supremacists. Jews are victim-cult class supremacists. They promote victim-cult class supremacy as a political paradigm to follow for all gentile nations, leaving the nation-state of Israel as the lone exception. Jews promote their victim-cult class supremacy paradigm as a political model for the world to follow. Victim-cult class supremacy REQUIRES first the installation of an American- style, strong central government that is based on democracy. Democracy is unlimited law-making power controlled by a majority. Any nation that might vigorously oppose a Judeo-American political model, jewish led victim-cult class supremacy, are potential targets for aggression. Iraq and Iran are current military targets because they effectively oppose the Judeo-American style victim cult.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
that's a very interesting & provocative post. I think that there is a conspiracy against jesus and that this conspiracy is strong among jews. The jews of course are not uniform in their thinking. Many are secular just as you said. some (a minority) I personally think are strong believers in god and don't go for the jewish supremacy stuff that is emphasized so strongly in the talmud. I read a jewish woman's blog recently, she said that jews were immune to judgement from god. The talmud I think conflicts mightily with the torah.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I finally had the time to read the whole post. Some truly interesting observations there. Thank you.
I was almost involved in fisticuffs with an older, bible-thumping sister over that very concept. It’s strange that in an extended family of doctors, scientists and engineers you can still have fundies who KNOW that the doctors, scientists and engineers are on a well lubricated slide to hell. Oh well, we’ll have a reunion down there. Thanks for a thought provoking article.
Should Christians support Israel?
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Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
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The truth is that there is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity.
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The bible, in particular the old testament, is Jewish tribal mythology. The jewish god is a tribal god, and certainly not a universal god.
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