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Title: Hell, No - I Won't Go!!!
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Published: May 23, 2007
Author: Edgar J. Steele
Post Date: 2007-05-23 18:50:06 by richard9151
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My name is Edgar J. Steele. "Leave there. Leave there now. You don't have a lot more time..." Thus went a recent email from an expatriate American correspondent, writing from his new home of many years in Moscow, Russia. I think he is right. I - we, that is - don't have much time left before the final crackdown comes. You know - the ultimate American police state. And, yes, it can get much worse. You have no idea. Thus far, we have been complaining about the procedures, laws and bureaucracies being set into place. Just wait until they start to use them. What's It All About? Come on, it is obvious to even the most comatose couch potato that all this superstructure has nothing to do with deterring terrorism from abroad. It is about controlling us, of course. You and me. What? Is that laughter I hear? Why us? Well, then, why are they doing what they are doing, then? Why must we get clearance from Homeland Security before we are allowed cross the border out of our own country, despite having valid passports? For that matter, why must we show a passport to leave for any reason in the first place? And why must we endure the indignity of those ridiculous searches before boarding airplanes. Why are all the home-town police forces becoming militarized? I remember when the police were our friends. The town cop where I grew up actually helped me learn to ride my bicycle. Try to imagine that happening today. Consider how the attitude of cops has changed just in your own lifetime. Why is the drumbeat to outlaw private ownership of guns growing ever louder despite overwhelming proof that violent crime erupts wherever guns are outlawed? Why are our National Guard units, once exclusively reserved for domestic assistance, now all overseas with all their equipment? Who will help us when we most need help? Why is America's border held open? Why are border guards imprisoned for catching illegals ferrying drugs into America? Why are those morons in Congress about to enact yet another amnesty for all the illegals now in the country? Incidentally, why doesn't "undocumented guest worker" as a euphemism for the criminals now crowding us out of our own health-care and welfare systems sound as ridiculous as does, say, "unlicensed pharmacist," when applied to a drug dealer? They Say Poacher - I Say Patriot Why are they now burying metal detectors in our national parks and forests? They claim that their fancy new satellite-uplink metal detection system, similar to those in use at airports, is designed to catch poachers. Poachers! Yeah, right - now there's a threat that deserves a high-tech solution. Here's what the article at the above link says about the system: "A poacher carrying a machete or a rifle will trip the detector, which will send a radio signal to a nearby Internet gateway and then to the Internet via satellite. With real-time data, park rangers have a better shot at intercepting illegal hunting." I'll give you long odds that this program has nothing whatsoever to do with poachers. Think far more conspiratorially, NWO-wise. Damn - I'd like a setup like this around my place. Truly, when they are emplacing things like this, you know that they have to be very near ready to enact the clampdown for good. Poachers are no significant problem anywhere in Amerikwa. Dissidents, however, now that is a different story altogether. And why would dissidents be trekking through the woods carrying long pieces of metal? Have you ever seen the movie "Red Dawn?" Leave Now... Increasingly, Americans are pulling up stakes and moving overseas. I've considered it myself, long and hard. If I had moved when the need first became apparent to me, my family now would be safely ensconced someplace like western Argentina or, perhaps, the northern lake country of Italy, within a stone's throw of the Swiss border. Against my better judgment, I allowed protests from my wife and children to overwhelm my natural instinct to keep them safe. Yes, there still is time, but not much, just as pointed out by my Russian-American friend. But, like you, they don't see the real danger even yet. Things still look so ... normal, after all. Call it rationalization and acceptance, if you like, but I have decided to stay put. Call it a weakness. The Real Contract with America I was born into mid-1940s America. I grew up during the Fifties and the Sixties. America made a contract with me when it educated me and socialized me into its ranks. More than once, I have sworn an oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Unlike virtually all American officials today, I served in uniform for nearly four years during the Viet Nam era. I lost many friends to that pointless American aggression, among them my best friend and college roommate, Tom Foster, about whom I now write for the first time. Tom appears with his girlfriend Chris in the photo at the left. I took this in late 1967, one of only two I have of Tom, who died less than two years later in the fetid jungles of South Viet Nam ... for America. For nothing, as it turned out. Just as America's sons and daughters now die for nothing in Middle-Eastern hellholes. For nothing. Nothing about Viet Nam was worth Tom's life, who was one of the most remarkable, affable and truly worthy individuals I ever have been privileged to know. And I knew Tom well. Twice I have visited the official memorial to the Americans who died in Viet Nam and viewed Tom's name on its wall. Twice I have cried for him. Tears well up now, as I recall my memory of Tom and the remarkable life he would have led, a life cut short by politicians just like those now deciding our children's fate. And then I begin, all over again, to get angry. Just because America now is being forced, at gunpoint, to renege on its promises to me does not release it from its obligations. Under traditional contract law, when one party breaches, the other has the option to rescind the contract. Else, one can sue for what is called "specific performance" of the contract. Note well the word "option." In contract law terms, I hereby elect to sue America for specific performance. You don't get out of it that easily, America. You owe me. And I owe you, too. Other than vote against the establishment for forty years, do a little pointless precinct walking for hopeless candidates, handle a few pro bono legal cases for the doomed and the damned and speak out as I have for years, just what have I done to prevent you from being taken hostage by the morons, incompetents and criminals now running things? Hell, No - I Won't Go This happened on my watch. I have a duty to help fix things when, finally, the rest of America catches up and sees the view from my vantage point. So - send me a postcard if you choose to leave. I do understand and never will blame you for leaving a sinking ship. I'll just stay behind and help rearrange the deck chairs for now. But ... Hell, no - I won't go! I have work to do and I'm just getting warmed up. It's too early to shoot the bastards, but I certainly advocate being ready to shoot back, just as our forefathers shot back near the Lexington Bridge, more than two hundred years ago. Though they already are imprisoning and killing us simply for being dissidents, we cannot shoot back until they start openly killing us in the streets. Impeach House Speaker Pelosi We have work to do. We should start by impeaching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Why Pelosi when there are so many from whom to pick? Because she is a symbol for all those creeps we replaced after last year's mid-term elections. Turns out, we just got all-new creeps. This is where I get to say, "I told you so." But these all-new creeps are even worse because the only mandate they possibly could claim was to change things! And they haven't. In fact, they have made things even worse, if you can believe it. After all, this is how our system is supposed to work: we elect representatives and they do our bidding. This is supposed to prevent the need for violent, revolutionary change. We said, loud and clear: We want our government changed. We want our sons and daughters back home, out of harm's way in that stupid "War on Terror" in the Middle East. War on Terror - what a joke! The only terrorists, it turns out, are American. Before Bush, I thought Republicans were almost as bad as Democrats. For five years, I then believed that Democrats were almost as bad as Republicans. Now, once again, Pelosi has shown me the light: Republicans are almost as bad as Democrats. When Thoughts are Outlawed, Only Outlaws will have Thoughts Consider carefully the following, which I fashioned from a popular anti-gun law slogan: When Thoughts are Outlawed, Only Outlaws will have Thoughts. Our all-new creeps on the left side of Congress just passed the newest version of the recurring Kennedy Hate-Thought-Crime bill. Frankly, I forget who sponsored it this time and I am ignoring the ridiculous name they gave it in this incarnation. Now the even-more-Jewish-than-ever-controlled Senate (I refuse to call them the right side of Congress, because they represent the very antithesis of both meanings of the word "right") has vowed to pass this thought-crime bill and render it unto Caesar ... er ... Bush, who has promised to veto it, thereby underscoring my new-found belief that Republicans are only almost as bad as Democrats. Yet another act of treason from Speaker Pelosi. Come Think with Me Come think with me, fellow outlaws. I know that is what you are because every American now has become an outlaw. It no longer is possible to go through a single day without breaking too many laws to count. The proof that 9-11 was home-grown now is conclusive, which means that our troops should be marching on Washington, DC. Our all-new creeps have had a year and all that has happened is that things have gotten much, much worse. More American deaths. More record deficits of every sort. More criminals given the red carpet treatment. More out-of-control Bush/Cheney/Chertoff/Gonzalez, the unholy four Riders of the Apocalypse. And less freedom for you and me, of course. Our all-new creeps could have ended the war somewhat gracefully long before now. At any time! In fact, what they have done is to vote more and more money to fund the war! The recent gargantuan military funding bill is a great example. Did the Democrat-controlled congress vote it down? No, they approved it, though the only sure way to stop a war is to cut off its funding. They Simply Could Have Talked this War to Death Democrats' claiming that they could not have gotten the votes to surmount a Bush veto of the military funding bill is both a lie and a subterfuge. They didn't even need to vote it down. All the Democrats had to do was to start a filibuster and prevent it ever coming up for a vote. That's it. Talk it to death. But they wouldn't even do the one thing they know how to do! Impeach Bush and Cheney? Sounds good to me. Problem is, then we get President Pelosi. And what she and her fellow all-new creeps have done is criminal beyond words. They were sent to fix things and, like the cop who drops his trousers upon finding a rape victim lying in the bushes, they actually have made things worse! New America! An idea whose time has come. My name is Edgar J. Steele. Thanks for listening ... and thinking. 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#34. To: richard9151 (#29)
huh? what are you talking about? good lord.
Religion teaches you this? What a disgrace. You make a perfect Mexican.
Actually, more like a flashbang followed by kelvar-coated thugs busting it down. At that moment in time, the rubber will meet the road for many of us.
Certainly not, as religion is a work of man. The essence of this comes down to a simple truth; can you, Jethro, change yourself? When you learn something new about health, as a for instance, CAN YOU CHANGE YOUR HABITS TO CONFORM TO YOUR NEW KNOWLEDGE? And, do it right now? Or, IF YOU CAN CHANGE, can you even do it over a period of time? And if you are like most people, who can not change even when faced with life threatening problems, how in the h--- do you propose to force change upon others? The opporative word here, Jethro, being to force change. Because you can not change others, except through force. Changing is a choice made by each and every individual, and it is a very slow process, generally speaking, and it cones only through education, experience, and facts.... and that pretty much leaves most Americans out of the change loop, including you. And when you resist, what you do is close the minds of those who support what you resist, and turn them 180 degrees away from what you advocate. And if you truly do not understand that, then all you have to do is look at how long it has taken to get just a majority of Americans to look at the info about 911. And still, many of the people that I know do not have a clue about what happened.... why? Because it is not on the tele. BUT, most of them are well aware that there is a problem in America, and it PROBABLY is centered in anti- government feelings fed by the distaste for the war. Because Jethro, they still BELIEVE that it is their government, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding. Just as you believe, for whatever reason, that the course of the government can be changed, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
richard... I hope that segment is a casualty of poor writing or thought, not meant to demean anyone???
Our course of gov has had several changes: from individual states, to the Articles of Confederation, to the war of northern aggression (a "war" which was never declared nor ended), to 1913 and '33, to what shiite we have today, but we've certainly had changes over our short history. Mostly for the worse, I agree, but with enough good people, things can change, again, for the better. I agree with you that govs are inherently evil, but I know of nothing in the Bible that tells us not to resist evil at every opportunity.
richard: Having followed your posts early on, this is the first time I have been left wondering what it is you are trying to say. Could you please rephrase or explain? Thanks
Facts do not demean; they are simply facts. Most Americans can not conceive of change; if you do not agree with this, I suggest that you buy, rent or steal a copy of the movie, 30 days, about eating three meals a day at McDonalds for thirty days. Then read the book, Fast Food Nation. America has lost 25 million family farms in the last 50 years, and it means nothing to most Americans, who can not be bothered to understand the issues behind the loss. Or, accept that the loss comes from deliberate government policy. Yet the incidence, severity, and loss of life from the three major diseases, diabetes, heart disease, and cancer have reached epidemic levels within the US, and people still are not looking for solutions. Instead, sales of drugs are at all-time highs. Anything to be able to co-exist with the disease instead of looking for a solution, which requires change. Yet I hear constant cries about how the government needs to change! Yet those same people are incapable of, by and large, changing themselves. I have not drank a soda pop in more than 20 years.... how about you? I have not been inside of a McDonalds in more than 18 years.... how about you? And that is long before the movie was made or the book mentioned above was written. I am not a resident of the United States, and have not been for more than 20 years. How about you? I have not voted, and thus put my stamp of approval upon the United States government, in more than 20 years. How about you? Here is the bottom line; nothing will change the government until the people change........ And the people have proven themselves incapable of change; the evidence of that is that no matter who gets elected, nothing changes. And screaming about the Democrats and the Republicans is just a futile as ... well, you fill in the blank here.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Certainly; please see number 41.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
lodwick, please, do not put words into my mouth. I can fill it up to overflowing without assistance!!! Sometimes to my regret! But please, I said nothing about not resisting evil; what I said was we are not to resist the governments raised up and put into power by God; as they are here to serve His purposes, and generally that means to punish evildoers. And they are very efficient in what they do. Generally, most of the people that I see most involved in trying to change the government do so because they want something out of it, such as health care (as if!!!). but we've certainly had changes over our short history. Actually, if you go back and follow through the posts that I have done, I have tried to show that NOTHING has changed, EXCEPT, the perceptions of the people as to what was going on. I would liken it to a very, very slow awakening as more and more hidden facts begin to come out. True, in the beginning, the government LARGELY kept its hands off of the people, until, as I have shown, the people began to contract into the EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OF CONGRESS. See Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17; The Exclusive Jurisdcition Clause of the Constitution. But even as the government LARGELY kept its hands off of the people, you still have things such as the very first excutive order signed by George Washington himself, establishing Federal Zones overlying each of the original states. Thus allowing the First Bank of the United States, the forerunner of the Federal Reserve bank and owned by the same families, to operate within the states by flying a federal flag over their building; see, the law of the flag as it pertains to the law in force below that flag. Also, please see number 41.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I think he'd be great ... controversial to a degree, but literate, smart and down to earth. He might be useful in other matters as well (even though I think the court system is lost to the degenerates that run it, but sometimes a motion in time saves nine). It sure couldn't hurt, Ralph Winterroud sucks.
RON PAUL or REVOLUTION
richard666: No one will ever know that you've had a lobotomy, if you wear a wig to hide to the scars and learn to control the slobbering.
Please, I ask you both to just stop. You two are some of the most respected and knowledgeable members here. It pains the rest of your friends to see this sort of attack on each other. And it does not enhance 4 to all the lurkers who may be reading to see what goes on here. I don't know if there's a full moon going on, or what else may be happening in your lives, but please, act like the responsible adults that I know you both to be. Thank you very much, cheers.
Ah....like I was kidding.....
Better watch it JT. Chrissy might send BeAGayJooLoser after you to give you a spankin'. ;)
Let's just let it go, fight bigger battles, and try and get a real President for And hope and pray that he's not murdered in broad daylight.
Did you ever see that WOP What Stole Christmas DVD? "Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
even his hands are scary!
He's not even a WOP! :)
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
Egad noooooo on the BAC beating.....you know Esso, about the only fun I have left in the world is psychoanalyzing fellow posters. I've reached the conclusion that most are loons or trying their best to become one. Myself included. But unlike others I’ve accepted – hell I’ve embraced – my condition.
WOP - With Out Papers
Thank you chinky boy.
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
Like you know!
I'm not sure those are his hands
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
I know because Wayne Kramer told me so, asshole! :)
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
I've always found people with two thumbs on each hand creepy, but thought they'd make great mechanics.
LOL. Best laugh I have had in a while....... Begs the question.... if that is my problem, hard to imagine yours.......
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Yeah, we should surround them at the fucking courthouse.
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
That explains so much....
Karnak-like freaks are yesterday's news, pal.
http://disturbingthecomfortable.blogspot.com/2006_07_01_archive.html
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
I've got a pretty tough box to crack tonight, can I borrow your oxygen lance?
We move more than I would like to gamble I came with my poor poor eyes crawling weakling warning my favorite come and lie here Under my bed or deep under my fingers Well on my hands and knees in times of winding We night it's only when we civilize that worm for vagrant time we need it What secret of your knowing is their begining For chance to be old believe it believe it His widow's nest is growing cold, cold, cold Set sail and hurt your hand he work a lot, you're going home
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
So...Do you want some bean dip, or what? It's gettin' cold.
Lodwick, you jogged my thinking, and I need to add something in here, for clarity. You mentioned how we are to resist evil, but that begs the question, how do you resist that which you cooperate with? Why does the United States government, in its current form, exist? Because it is the government that the people of America, through individual choices, have empowered to serve and protect them. The problem with this is that you can not EMPOWER something and restrain it at the same time. Everytime that you EMPOWER, i.e., add power, to something, your possiblity of restraining that something becomes less and less. There is a famous quote spoken by a man as he exited the hall where the Constitution, in its final form, was agreed to; he was asked what they had done, and he replied that they had given a Republic to the people, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT. I submit that he knew very well that the United States, as opposed to America, was formed as a Democracy, and, knowing human nature, he understood that it would only be a short time (history wise) until the people learned to go to the so-called government, hat in hand, for benefits. Thus entering into the Exclusive Jurisdiction of Congress. Ummmm. Do any of you have insurance, in one form or another? In about 1816, the so-called Supreme Court ruled that all insurance was of Admiralty jurisdiction. And no, I do not have any, and have not had for more than 20 years. When I drove in the states, there was a Chrisitian group in California that you could contract with for a cooperate bond; all signatory members being jointly responsible if a major loss occured for which the group was responsible. That is called personal responsiblity, and you can not pay others to take your personal responsibilities off of your hands. And the very idea that I would think about having so-called health insurance!! Not hardly! So, Lodwick, we come back to what you mentioned; resist evil. How, my friend, do you do that, and cooperate with the evil at the same time? So, that being said, do you vote? As voting is done now, that is a direct entry into the EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction of Congress and the Democracy, AND, it is a rubber stamp approval of the United States government. Doesn`t matter if you believe the government should change; doesn't matter if you think that somethings should be done differently; your vote says that it is YOUR government, and you owe to it your allegiance. That is a neat word; you should look it up first chance you get, in a Black's Law Dictionary. Some time ago, I posted Leaderless Resistance. Actually, one of the best posts I have ever done. And the info included in that post details the only way that things will change in America, and that is by leaderless resistance. All of the BS about how the Soviet Union was destroyed by overspending by Reagan is just that; BS. The Soviet Union collasped because the people of Russia quit supporting the government, and its actions. Other than conquest or bloody revolution (paid for by an outside source), that pretty much sums up the only solution to the problem. And the detail about that can be spoken thus: QUIT COOPERATING WITH EVIL. That is as simple as it gets. But please note this; THIS REQUIRES THAT THE PEOPLE CHANGE! THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT BE CHANGED UNTIL THE PEOPLE CHANGE!!!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Watch out, she's big as a mountain Slobby slow it's carbon livin' Now you got something to believe in Leave your widow golden ribbon. strawberry fields forever, right?
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
Excellent post/reply!! You're exactly right. Practically everything Americans do is a "rubber stamp approval" of something or other about which they so bitterly complain...
If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein
YIKES!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
"Be just and if you can't be just, be arbitrary." - William S Burroughs
Outside of Africa; I don't think I have ever seen anyone who like more like a human skeleton than this guy. Creepy. You can just see him running a FEMA camp...
And neither you nor they are correct, Jethro, for you are both living under a strong delusion, but perhaps someday, after you read, study and live enough, you will awaken.
#35. To: richard9151 (#29)
In fact, we are told not to resist, and why is that, Jethro?
#36. To: Cynicom (#20)
They fear the midnight knock at the door
#37. To: Jethro Tull, christine (#35)
Religion teaches you this?
#38. To: richard9151 (#37)
it cones only through education, experience, and facts.... and that pretty much leaves most Americans out of the change loop, including you.
#39. To: richard9151 (#37)
Just as you believe, for whatever reason, that the course of the government can be changed, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
#40. To: richard9151 (#37)
... and it cones only through education, experience, and facts.... and that pretty much leaves most Americans out of the change loop, including you.
#41. To: Cynicom (#38)
I hope that segment is a casualty of poor writing or thought, not meant to demean anyone???
#42. To: Phant2000 (#40)
Could you please rephrase or explain?
#43. To: lodwick (#39)
but I know of nothing in the Bible that tells us not to resist evil
#44. To: christine (#14)
i'd like to see have his own talk show on RBN. wonder what John Stadtmiller would think of that.
#45. To: richard9151 (#37)
#46. To: Jethro Tull, richard9151 (#45)
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#47. To: lodwick (#46)
#48. To: Jethro Tull (#47)
#49. To: Jethro Tull, everyone here (#47)
Ah....like I was kidding.....
once twice in our lifetime.
#50. To: Esso (#48)
BeAGayJooLoser
#51. To: Dakmar (#50)
#52. To: christine (#51)
#53. To: Esso (#48)
#54. To: Dakmar (#52)
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
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WOP - With Out Papers
#56. To: Dakmar (#55)
#57. To: christine, Dakmar (#51)
even his hands are scary!
#58. To: Jethro Tull (#56)
#59. To: christine (#51)
even his hands are scary!
#60. To: Jethro Tull (#45)
No one will ever know that you've had a lobotomy,
#61. To: Esso (#59)
I've always found people with two thumbs on each hand creepy, but thought they'd make great mechanics.
#62. To: richard9151 (#60)
Best laugh I have had in a while
#63. To: Dakmar (#58)
#64. To: Jethro Tull, Esso, Christine (#63)
good lord, I'm still listening to Melvins. check this out:
#65. To: Dakmar (#61)
#66. To: Esso (#65)
Civilized Worm Lyrics
#67. To: Dakmar (#66)
#68. To: Phant2000, Cynicom, lodwick (#40)
and it cones only through education, experience, and facts.... and that pretty much leaves most Americans out of the change loop, including you.
#69. To: Esso (#67)
Artist: Melvins Song: Big as a mountain Album: Ozma [" Ozma " CD]
#70. To: richard9151 (#68)
Doesn`t matter if you believe the government should change; doesn't matter if you think that somethings should be done differently; your vote says that it is YOUR government, and you owe to it your allegiance.
#71. To: Dakmar (#50)
#72. To: BTP Holdings (#71)
#73. To: christine (#51)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
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