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Title: U.S. funding Mexico's wiretaps
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Star-Telegram (L.A. Times)
URL Source: http://www.star-telegram.com/279/story/114338.html
Published: May 25, 2007
Author: SAM ENRIQUEZ
Post Date: 2007-05-25 17:25:28 by aristeides
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U.S. funding Mexico's wiretaps By SAM ENRIQUEZ MEXICO CITY -- Mexico is expanding its ability to tap telephone calls and e-mail using money from the U.S. government, a move that underlines how the country's conservative government is increasingly willing to cooperate with U.S. on law enforcement. The expansion comes as President Felipe Calderon is pushing to amend Mexico's constitution to allow officials to tap phones without a judge's approval in some cases. Mexican authorities have been able to wiretap most telephone conversations and tap into e-mail for years, but the new $3 million Communications Intercept System being installed by Mexico's Federal Investigative Agency would expand its reach. The system will allow authorities to track cellphone users as they travel, according to the contract specifications. It would include extensive storage capacity and allow authorities to identify callers by voice. The system, scheduled to begin operation within the next month, was paid for by the U.S. State Department and sold by Verint Systems, a politically connected company based in Melville, N.Y., that specializes in electronic surveillance. Documents describing the upgrade suggest that the U.S. government could have access to information derived from the surveillance. Officials of both governments declined to comment on that possibility. "It is a government of Mexico operation, funded by the U.S.," said Susan Pittman, of the U.S. State Department's Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs. Questions about its use should be directed to Mexico, she said. Calderon's office declined to comment. But the U.S. government's contract specifications say the system is designed to allow both governments to "disseminate timely and accurate, actionable information to each country's respective federal, state, local, private and international partners." Calderon has lobbied for more authority to use electronic surveillance against drug smuggling. Already this year, drug wars have cost hundreds of lives and threatened Calderon's ability to govern. It's unclear how broad a net the new surveillance system would cast: Mexicans speak regularly by phone, for example, with millions of relatives living in the U.S. Those conversations appear to be fair game for both governments. Within the U.S., legal experts say that if prosecutors have access to Mexican wiretaps, they could use the information in U.S. courts. U.S. Supreme Court decisions have held that Fourth Amendment protections against illegal wiretaps do not apply outside the U.S., particularly if the surveillance is conducted by another country, said Georgetown University law professor David Cole. Mexico's telecommunications monopoly, Telmex, controlled by Carlos Slim, the world's second-wealthiest person, has not received official notice of the new system that will intercept its electronic signals, a spokeswoman said this week. "Telmex is a firm that always complies with laws and rules set by the Mexican government," she said. Calderon recently asked Mexico's Congress to amend the constitution and allow federal prosecutors to conduct searches and secretly record conversations among people suspected of what the government defines as serious crimes. His proposal would eliminate the current requirement that prosecutors gain approval from a judge before installing any wiretap. Calderon says the legal changes are needed in the battle against drug gangs. But others argued that the proposal undermines constitutional protections and opens the door to the type of domestic spying that has plagued many Latin American countries.
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#1. To: aristeides (#0)
Sigh. So much for escaping the police state by fleeing to Mexico.
And the publican, standing far off, would not so much as lift his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather thant he other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. -Luke 18: 14.
Yep. It wasn't on my list, but now it really isn't on my list. It's unclear how broad a net the new surveillance system would cast: Mexicans speak regularly by phone, for example, with millions of relatives living in the U.S. Those conversations appear to be fair game for both governments.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
The closer a nation is to the US border, the more disinformation is going to be desiminated about it. 99% of all of the things I believed about Mèxico before I got here were nothing but lies. 99% of the things each of you believe about Mèxico are probaly lies. Including the GENERAL problems that gringos have with the Mèxican police. Just ain`t so. 99% of the things you believe about Canada are also lies. How do I know this? Because you would be surprised at the number of Canadians who live here.... and some of the tales they tell about Canada. For instance, did you know that Canada has always had the worst free speech laws in the so-called free world? At least as bad as Hitlerized Germany. The frank difference between the US and Mèxico? Mèxicans do not put up with the BS that Americans do; they will, and do, take to the streets.... and more than a few cops have been killed in the process. And when you speak of a free press, well, more jounalists have been killed in Mèxico than just about any other nation I know of, although not much is said about that in general. Mèxicans are also well aware that most of the corruption in Mèxico has flowed south from the states, and that most of the interference in Mèxican affairs has always come from the north. That being said, there are times when I wonder if I should have moved further south.... pretty much too late for that; I like my wife too much and she will never leave Mèxico. What many Americans have trouble understanding is that Mèxicans are just as proud about being Mèxican as Americans are about being US citizens. Everything else being equal, my wife and I have spoken about moving much further into the interior of Mèxico once she is retired from teaching.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
This is something I've definitely found to be true.
And the publican, standing far off, would not so much as lift his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather thant he other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. -Luke 18: 14.
Then why won't Mexicans take back their govt from the elite control? Why must the masses pour into the US for economic opportunities? Mexicans yelled "Osama! Osama! Osama!" at more than one soccer match after 9/11. And that attitude toward Americans continues after they arrive. Mexican gangs are murdering Black Americans for territory in L.A., also in the prisons, where Mexicans now outnumber Black Americans, who have been a part of the fabric of America for 400 years. Please don't try and tell me how wonderful Mexicans are. When I was small my mother once took the wrong exit off the freeway. As she made a 3-point turn on a side street to turn around, Mexicans began to walk menacingly from every direction toward the car; she's a good driver and sped away to safety. To this day, she recalls the fear of that day. Her grandmother came to L.A. in 1883 with her parents and grandmother from post-Civil war Missouri/Oklahoma. The California Native Americans chased Mexicans out of California many times. Mexicans have NO claim on California. But now that it has the 7th largest economy in the world, they like to say they do. In the 60's America helped Mexico double its food production. In the same time period, Mexico's population doubled. Now the liars in charge say more workers are needed, while Americans go unemployed and our standard of living slides ever downward. The liars will get their Amnesty, and it will not stop more illegals from coming here. The last Amnesty just encouraged more to cross the border. I'm glad you're happy with Mexico, but please don't expect the rest of us to feel the way you do.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Did you see the post I put up about how NAFTA was passed in Mèxico, robin? Have you ever read the material in Confessions of an Economic Hitman, robin? Or the book, The Ugly American? How about the different books that have been written about how the Untied States military and the CIA have raped and pillaged South and Central America? Well, that includes Mèxico. In the posts about NAFTA, it is explained why the illegal immigrant flood from Mèxico is occurring. And, how the elections in Mèxico are stolen. So, since you live in a nation WITH THE IDENTICAL SAME PROBLEM with elections, I suggest that you make no snide remarks about Mèxico, i.e., Florida and Ohio: VOTING MACHINES. It is the same thing in Mèxico, except that the Mèxicans are aware that the problem originates IN THE US. In the 60's America helped Mexico double its food production. In the same time period, Mexico's population doubled. Who told you this shit? The same media that has brought out all of the truth about 911? That was when the corporate model of farming was introduced into Mèxico.... by.... THE US! And the Mèxican government started working to begin chasing more and more Mèxicans off of the land..... JUST LIKE IN AMERICA WHERE 25 MILLION FAMILY FARMS HAVE BEEN LOST SINCE 1940. Read the NAFTA material, robin. American's were told to "Stop at Two" to continue our standard of living. So all my cousins and siblings had only one or two children. You know, robin, for a supposedly intelligent woman, you certainly have a lot of trouble separating truth from propaganda. You were propagandized to stop at two to limit the growth of the white population so that the non-white immigration flood could have a greater impact. And not just non-whites from Mèxico, robin, from all over. It was not long after that that the immigration standards were changed to allow even fewer white in than had been getting in; must have just been a coincidence. Also, you were told such so as to hide the devastating impact that taxes (accumlative tax rate in the US now in excess of 85%) have on the birth rate. Mèxicans, because of the protections built into their Constitution, pay little in taxes, and THEY CAN AFFORD TO HAVE A LARGE FAMILY; you, nor your siblings, can not. Mèxicans, unlike Americans, are also aware that their problems with drugs come from the US, and are not home grown. Did you bother to read the info I posted about the CIA and drugs? And some of the best researched is the info about the CIA and the gangs and drugs in LA. Now the liars in charge say more workers are needed, while Americans go unemployed and our standard of living slides ever downward. And what liars are those, robin, in the US, or in Mèxico? And what do those lies have to do with all of the garbage being imported from China? And everywhere else as well? Do you have any idea, Robin, of the impact of just a 10% import rate, and how it destroys parity? Ummm, for that matter, do you have any idea what parity means? and if you do not; why are you even discussing these subjects; when you do not have the knowledge needed to make sense of them?! Back in the 1950s, robin, papers were written in the US Senate that showed that they understood very well that the US could not be joined to a world government with the high standard of living enjoyed by Americans, and that this needed to be 'fixed.' But hey, the problem is obviously coming from Mèxico. Right? I'm glad you're happy with Mexico, but please don't expect the rest of us to feel the way you do. Frankly, I do not care what you think about Mèxico; you or any other American. When I am asked questions about Mèxico, as I have been, I will answer them as truthfully as I can. Do I enjoy Mèxico? Very much. I am quite content, with the problem being that I can see the ratching up of FEAR MONGERING in the US, WHICH WILL BE USED FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION IN MÈXICO. And this will happen just as soon as the Mèxican manage to throw off the oppresive control of the US over the Mèxican government. It almost happened this last election. It is getting closer, and when it happens, you will smile when the US troops pour across the border and comment; 'About time!' Caspar Weinberger predicted that the US would be at war with Mèxico by 2003. The establishment is worried about the Mèxican people, robin. As for me, I watch the media play the people of America like someone playing war drums and all I can say is; I HATE ABJECT IGNORANCE WRAPED IN A LAYER OF STUPIDITY!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
My remark was in response to your attack, it was not snide, it was based on the different histories. Mexico has never had a Middle-Class. We are now losing ours, in part thanks to the illegal tsunami from Mexico. I have been up to speed on the impact of our trade imbalance with Red China for over 5 years now, thanks to the late harpseal of FR (before the patriots all left FR). His 13 points are still on his homepage on FR. And I have posted many times on this subject on FR, LP and here. I have 5 children, I clearly said my cousins; as many of my more distant American cousins also fell for that stop at two propaganda fed them in college. The food production and population growth are documented. This was before NAFTA. Everyone here is also up to speed on the evils of the CIA Black OPs in Latin America. We are aware of Negroponte, Abrams, etc. Iran/Contra gang's CIA training in Honduras and other parts of Latin America. And how MS-13 gang is the ugly offspring of that Black Op. You have chosen to ignore the other remarks I made, that's interesting.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Ricardo. You and the brown swill you choose to live among would be wiping your butts with leaves had it not been for at least three bailouts of the Peso by America. One such bailout was post NAFTA. So, as you can see, your nation is owned and ruled by our federal reserve. Soooooo......that said, I suggest you stay put in that tin-roofed hovel you called home and thank your lucky stars your wife is employed trying to teach math to people w/a mean IQ of 85.
Robin.... Do not start with that BS. How can you even make such comments? The peso devaluation in 94 was all about stopping the middle class of Mèxico. The middle class that was becoming upcontrolable. And what do you think, that NAFTA was the start of the control of Mèxico? David Rockefeller was the largest industial farmer in Mèxico long before NAFTA! And please do not tell me anything about how food production in Mèxico was documented! By who? The CIA? TODAY, robin, MÈXICO IS JUST LIKE THE US AND CAN NO LONGER FEED ITSELF! Mèxico, today, must import food in order to feed everyone. Why is that? Because of the same government policies used here in America and imported from the US to Mèxico; force the people off of the land so that they are dependent on the government. Did you bother to read about how NAFTA was passed in Mèxico, robin? And I just posted one on the poor in Mèxico, which, if you read any of the material on NAFTA that I posted, would show you where the problem came from. Yoou know, Robin, I understand how easy it is to sit in the US and think ill of others in the so-called third world. But how you can make comments like; Mexico has never had a Middle-Class ... when I also posted that this economy is a trillion dollar economy is beyond me. What, you believe the non-sense about how everyone else is much smarter than Mèxicans? And what, pray tell, did I ignore?
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
#2. To: bluedogtxn (#1)
#3. To: robin, bluedogtxn (#2)
Yep. It wasn't on my list, but now it really isn't on my list.
#4. To: richard9151, robin (#3)
What many Americans have trouble understanding is that Mèxicans are just as proud about being Mèxican as Americans are about being US citizens.
#5. To: richard9151 (#3)
The frank difference between the US and Mèxico? Mèxicans do not put up with the BS that Americans do; they will, and do, take to the streets.... and more than a few cops have been killed in the process.
American's were told to "Stop at Two" to continue our standard of living. So all my cousins and siblings had only one or two children.
#6. To: robin (#5)
Then why won't Mexicans take back their govt from the elite control?
#7. To: richard9151 (#6)
I suggest that you make no snide remarks about Mèxico
#8. To: richard9151 (#6)
#9. To: richard9151 (#3)
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#10. To: robin (#7)
Mexico has never had a Middle-Class.
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