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Title: An Extremely Disturbing Report from Tom007 Concerning the Health Support For The Wounded Vets Of Iraq (MUST READ)
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Published: May 26, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-05-26 19:45:07 by tom007
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Just held a graduation party for my valedictoran daughter. One of the attendents was Debbie, the consummate medical professional. Though not a doctor, she is really one, as she is extreamly bright and highly ranked in her profession, and I know why from knowing her for five years.

I told her about the situation with Adam, my nephew severly injured in Iraq. I told her that the Army says he has second degree burns, a great relief. Yet his mother this morning relays that his arms are quote "simply black".

Debbie grimices as I say this, and says quietly that "simply black" is not a second degree burn.

I know she is right, as she tells me this - I guess I just wanted to think it was not third degree burns.

So the army is lying about his situation. Anyone shocked??

Now for the real story. Believe Debbie, I do.

She has a close friend who is about 50 yo and a career solider in the US Army. Don, two weeks ago was severely injured in an IED, just like my nephew Adam.

He was sent to Walter Reed. His family went to Waler Reed. He was six days in the system from Iraq to Germany to WR.

When they finially got to him - this is shocking and horrifing - he had contracted an infection so serious that one leg was amputated. the other leg may need to be amputated as well.

He was NEVER CLEANED FROM THE ORIGINAL ATTACK. HE WAS NEVER CLEANED FROM THE ORIGINAL ATTACK.

Yes that's correct - his grevious wounds were never attended to at the battlefield, or for six days to Walter Reed, and when his pitiful family found him he still had the filth from the battlefield upon him.

His amputee wound drain bag was overflowing, backing up into the wound. They themselves drained it, as he was being ignored by the staff.

They used baby wipes to clean his crusted blood off from his body SIX DAYS AFTER HE WAS WOUNDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody cared.

She said it was a hall of horrors. Kids with their faces blown off being wharehoused in this huge monstrousity of a building. Kids missing limbs, other grevious wounds hanging in these decaying dirty halls.

A NIGHTMARE, A FILTHY NIGHTMARE.

She reports the front was gleeming clean. well lit and friendly.

But once you went behind to the real wards it was unreal as to the horrors and filth.

I believe Debbie a hell of alot more than I believe Colin Powell, Doug Feith, Paul Woulforitz, Dick Cheney, Bush Fox News and the rest of the war party crowd.

Our government is very sick, a vampire feeding upon the body of the US. Subscribe to *9-11*

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

DAMMIT! JUST DAMMIT!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-05-26   19:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All, arator, arete, gengis gandi, zipporah, robin, lodwick, tommythemadartist, indrid cold, beachooser, diana, wbales, kiki, red jones, flintlock, jethro tull, BTP Holdings, Anyone who can see behind the green curtain (#0)

SAD AND ANGERY PING

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-05-26   19:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

One of my friends told me his late mother used to help out at the VA. She said there were wards that she was not allowed in. Still, the ones she did go into, when she got home, didn't have much to say for two or three days.

But, as we all know, it was for a patriotic cause. Making the ultimate sacrifice, as the disgusting Freepers put it.

Freeper motto: I read, but do not understand, I write, but make no sense, I think, but nothing happens.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-05-26   19:51:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tom007 (#2)

Words simply aren't adequate to describe my anger.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-26   19:53:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: who knows what evil (#4) (Edited)

Words simply aren't adequate to describe my anger.

Debbie (a firecracker) called the Colorado Federal Rep, Doug Lamborn to give them a little of her well informed mind. She spoke to a Legislative aide who only replied that "I thought we had fixed that".

So it is obvious that no one is going beyound the facade. There is no money in it.

SICK SICK SICK

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-05-26   19:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#0)

Sickening, truly sickening.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-26   20:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007 (#0)

This is deeply disturbing.. those idiots that are pro-war pro-Bush and pro rightwing idiocy.. say they're supporting the troops .. we knew it was bullshit but not the extent of it.. now trying to find something positive .. the good thing is that now your family knows and therefore they'll know to be demanding.. ask questions.. push for the right care for your nephew. oh tom... what on earth has this country become..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-05-26   20:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#5)

thanks for providing this important story.

You know we read from actually an Army Times article that a congressional committee that was investigating this had documented that Haliburton was hired to take over some things at Walter Reed. and the Army Times article said that the congressional committee had uncovered that much of the Walter Reed staff was demoralized because Haliburton was given key functions. It said some people had quit over it and that this staff turnover & demoralization combined with Haliburton taking over functions is what hurt the hospital's ability to do its job.

they play mind games with us in the mass media. Great evil is what they really are. and they want us to accept it.

the only way this could happen is if it is done on purpose. The military people would never let this happen unless it was specifically a priority to do so. They follow orders.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-05-26   20:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Red Jones (#8)

You know we read from actually an Army Times article that a congressional committee that was investigating this had documented that Haliburton was hired to take over some things at Walter Reed. and the Army Times article said that the congressional committee had uncovered that much of the Walter Reed staff was demoralized because Haliburton was given key functions. It said some people had quit over it and that this staff turnover & demoralization combined with Haliburton taking over functions is what hurt the hospital's ability to do its job.

Thank you for that reminder!

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-05-26   20:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

that was such a huge news story. and we did read it in Army Times. that Haliburton was actually hired to take over some functions at Walter Reed. and that occurred well before the public media flap about the low quality of care in that hospital. and Army Times obviously was referring to some public records, the congressional investigation. and the mass media just ignored this story.

controlled media.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-05-26   20:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007 (#0)

Debbie grimices as I say this, and says quietly that "simply black" is not a second degree burn.

Characterizes third degree.

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-05-26   20:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

Our government is very sick, a vampire feeding upon the body of the US.

Tom, have your nephew's wounds been cleaned?

Is San Antonio as bad as Walter Reed? If so, is it possible to get him out of there and into private sector care?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-05-26   21:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Arator (#12)

Tom, have your nephew's wounds been cleaned?

Is San Antonio as bad as Walter Reed? If so, is it possible to get him out of there and into private sector care?

Is San Antonio as bad as Walter Reed?

from what I can tell the SA unit is the best around. So I am happy with that.

I am unaware of private care sector capable or willing to take on damage as this.

The hospital that he is at TRAINS trauma doctors.

This is some sick stuff.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-05-26   23:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tom007 (#0)

She said it was a hall of horrors. Kids with their faces blown off being wharehoused in this huge monstrousity of a building. Kids missing limbs, other grevious wounds hanging in these decaying dirty halls.

Here is a testimonial from a WRAMC Nurse who seems to have a view similar to many of us here on 4um, plus the inside view of day to day life in that hell.

If you would like to read more testimonials concerning our soldiers, check out this link. http://www.leishmaniasis.us/Toll.html

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-05-26   23:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: ladybug (#14)

f you would like to read more testimonials concerning our soldiers, check out this link. http://www.leishmaniasis.us/Toll.html

If I were to propagate this I may well be accused of treason. The truth is a revolutionary concept.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-05-26   23:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tom007 (#15)

If I were to propagate this I may well be accused of treason. The truth is a revolutionary concept.

Maybe we will be stuffed into the same detention camp. At least we would know that there would be someone there to have an interesting conversation with. :oP

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-05-26   23:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: ladybug (#14)

All leishmaniasis is bloodborne

We have no sterile cure. Transmitted Sexually, Congenitally, and by Blood Transfusion

Leishmaniasis can take up to twenty years to present itself in a healthy person.

We have a ban on blood donations for persons having been in Iraq or Afghanistan for one year.

Did the DOD heed this warning and prepare our soldiers and civilian contractors for the possibility of becoming infected with Leishmaniasis from the bite of the sandfly in Iraq? NO Most soldiers were deployed without netting, without proper precautions. The contractors were totally on their own. They had no warning at all. Further there was no request for a ban on blood donations until early October 2003 requesting that one be put in place by the end of October.

good god

christine  posted on  2007-05-27   0:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: tom007 (#0)

WTF?  posted on  2007-05-27   2:34:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: tom007 (#0)

Tom I am horrified, almost speechless.

I am so sorry for your nephew and your family, and all the many wounded kids who will lose limbs and/or die.

This sounds like something out of a horror movie. Just don't know what to say but this sounds very, very bad from many angles.

Diana  posted on  2007-05-27   2:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#0)

When they finially got to him - this is shocking and horrifing - he had contracted an infection so serious that one leg was amputated. the other leg may need to be amputated as well.

Our government is very sick, a vampire feeding upon the body of the US.

I pray for their destruction by a righteous God.

meantime, maybe you can find some useful information here on how to help your nephew and others to heal themselves since they are being abandoned by this satanic government.

..........Magnesium Chloride: The Infection Fighter Magnesium chloride is nothing short of a miracle mineral in its healing effect on a wide range of diseases as well as in its ability to rejuvenate the aging body. We know that it is essential for many enzyme reactions, especially in regard to cellular energy production, for the health of the brain and nervous system and also for healthy teeth and bones. However, it may come as a surprise that in the form of magnesium chloride it is also an impressive infection fighter. The first prominent researcher to investigate and promote the antibiotic effects of magnesium was a French surgeon, Prof. Pierre Delbet MD. In 1915 he was looking for a solution to cleanse wounds of soldiers, because he found that traditionally used antiseptics actually damaged tissues and encouraged infections instead of preventing them. In all his tests magnesium chloride solution was by far the best. Not only was it harmless for tissues, but it also greatly increased leucocyte activity and phagocytosis, the destruction of microbes. more.......................

Natural Alternatives for Treating Drug-Resistant Bacteria

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/herbs2.htm

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm

The Miracle Of Transdermal Magnesium [the oil type would probably not be good for a burn]

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=52321

Prayers going up for your nephew and all the rest so shamefully treated on this "Memorial Day" week-end, and every day.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-27   5:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)

We know that it is essential for many enzyme reactions, especially in regard to cellular energy production, for the health of the brain and nervous system and also for healthy teeth and bones.

It is magnesium itself which is deficient in the American diet and ignored by health professionals. Nearly everyone has a magnesium deficiency.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-05-27   5:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tom007 (#20)

The Miracle Of Transdermal Magnesium [the oil type would probably not be good for a burn]

my mistake:

....The Transdermal concept is this: It's magnesium oil...Not really oil but a liquid that has been extracted from sea water where the magnesium has been concentrated. Spray magnesium "oil" on the skin and miraculously, it's absorbed. Magnesium levels go up in the body...The book cites a doctor who had diabetes and could not absorb magnesium until he took massive doses for a whole year...The transdermal approach is far quicker...can be accomplished with even a foot bath...or the magnesium oil can be put in a bathtub and you literally soak the magnesium into your body.....

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0978799119/shirlswellncafen

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-27   5:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: BTP Holdings (#21)

Nearly everyone has a magnesium deficiency.

I'm sure you are correct.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-27   5:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: tom007 (#0)

But once you went behind to the real wards it was unreal as to the horrors and filth.

Some things that come to mind...

Your nephew is most likely enlisted.

Jorge Bush has an attending military physician in the Whitehouse 24/7.

On my entry into the military long ago, an old pre WW2 soldier told me, "Never have anything to do with military medicine, stay away".

Basic premise, rank has its privleges, all others are short changed, always been that way and will never change.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-05-27   7:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom, tom007 (#24)

From last February...

The Broken Lives of American Soldiers

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-05-27   10:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eoghan (#25)

Kinda make the sloganeering of "Support the Troops" ring just a bit hollow.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-05-27   10:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tom007 (#26)

Kinda make the sloganeering of "Support the Troops" ring just a bit hollow.

worse...yesterday on tv i saw the criminal-in-chief say, 'i salute you', or was it 'i honor you' for your service, to some veterans, and then he put his girly hand to his brow....i wanted to puke even before i read what happened to your nephew.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-05-27   10:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Eoghan (#25)

i just posted that and i hadn't seen your post!

christine  posted on  2007-05-27   10:42:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#28)

sign of the time...

I lost my son to a conflict I oppose. We were both doing our duty

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-05-27   18:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tom007 (#0)

too sick for words, bump

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-05-28   13:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: tom007 (#26)

Kinda make the sloganeering of "Support the Troops" ring just a bit hollow.

"Support our troops" is just a buzz-phrase used by the Bush administration and its shills that really means "support the government and the war." The warmongers in office and in the media care not a bit about the well-being of the troops, as massive cuts to veteran's benefits and programs have proven.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-05-28   13:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tom007 (#0)

Smart Americans have to take premptive action in order to avoid such horrors in the first place. How long ago did your nephew join the service??

Artisan  posted on  2007-05-28   13:13:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#32)

How long ago did your nephew join the service??

Seems like about nine months ago.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-05-28   15:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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