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Title: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval
Source: Press Esc
URL Source: http://pressesc.com/01180202266_eevs
Published: May 27, 2007
Author: IFP Canada
Post Date: 2007-05-27 14:42:23 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 2842
Comments: 124

No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval

Submitted by Canada IFP on Sat, 2007-05-26 18:00. | |

US citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week.

American Civil Liberties Union pointed out that the DHS's Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued and if the department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill’s prohibitions on judicial review.

Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.

"EEVS would be a financial and bureaucratic nightmare for both businesses and workers," said Timothy Sparapani, ACLU Legislative Counsel. "Under this already flawed program no one would be able to work in the U.S. without DHS approval - creating a ‘No Work List’ similar to the government’s ‘No Fly List.’ We need immigration reform, but not at this cost."

The act allocates US$400 million for the implementation of the EEVS, but the Congressional Budgeting Office estimates the system to cost in excess of a billion dollars.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

DHS should be shut down...period.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-27   14:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: who knows what evil (#1)

Absolutely..

This brought to mind this song...

Zipporah  posted on  2007-05-27   14:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

We have reached a sad time in this country's history when you hear people that are seeking freedom giving more consideration to locating in Russia than America.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-27   15:07:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: who knows what evil (#3)

We have reached a sad time in this country's history when you hear people that are seeking freedom giving more consideration to locating in Russia than America.

I have at least two friends who relocated to China. Of course, both were married to Chinese women whose parents came directly from China, but both also say that the change was like a breath of fresh air. That, too, was my reaction once I was relocated to Mèxico and had time to look around and begin to understand the differences. That means, once I had begun to shed the propaganda from the media in the states about so-called third world nations, and, in particular, about Mèxico.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-27   15:57:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151 (#7)

That, too, was my reaction once I was relocated to Mèxico and had time to look around and begin to understand the differences. That means, once I had begun to shed the propaganda from the media in the states about so-called third world nations, and, in particular, about Mèxico.

Can you elaborate on that?

Artisan  posted on  2007-05-27   16:45:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#8)

Can you elaborate on that?

To a degree, yes, but it is something that needs to be experienced to understand.

More than anything, Mèxico is, more than anything, a common law nation; you do not damage someone else, they pretty much leave you alone.

Let me give you an example; there was an American who had a house here, but he did not live in it full time. So this one time, he can down from his home in Phoenix, and found that a number of things had been stolen out of his house. For whatever reason, he became convinced that a Mèxican who lived nearby was responsible. He went to the police, demanded action. They came down, spoke to the man, reported to the American that the Mèxican denied stealing anything, and, absent any evidence to the contrary, there was nothing further that they could do.

The American demanded; yes, DEMANDED, that the police forcibly enter the man`s house and search it and remove all of his, the Amerians, stolen items and return them to him! As the police explained to him, they could not do that, as Mèxican law forbade them from entering into the man`s home without a court order obtained legally, and based on eyewitness testimony.

The American was outraged! Why, if this had happened up in the states, you guys would have busted that door in and I would already have my stuff!!!

The sad thing is, the American was correct, and he also had no idea of just how foolish he sounded to those of us who understand.

And the caveat to this is that, of course, the American was completely wrong, but that did not stop him from making life miserable for the Mèxican and the police until the actual truth came out. The actual thief was his cousin (female), who needed some money quick for his`'habits'. I will let you guess as to what habits that may be.

And how do I know about this? Because I know the editor of the local gringo (English lan.) newspaper here. But the essence of the story pretty well illustrates the differences between Mèxico and the states, and, how far we, as a people, have degenerated.

Here, the police pretty well leave you alone unless you mess with them, or, injure someone. In the states, police work is all about revenue, and no one is immune.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-27   17:13:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: richard9151 (#10)

The American was outraged! Why, if this had happened up in the states, you guys would have busted that door in and I would already have my stuff!!!

I have to disagree. I'm doing bookeeping for a vehicle dealership right now. One of the fired salesman titled everything (+30 cars and street bikes) on the lot over into his name and sold out out from under the company...and then he wondered why he got fired.

He then later embezled funds from the company bank accounts and broke into the owners home to steal more records and vehicle titles.

I went with the owner to the police. We took with us two eye witnesses to the break in, literaly a suitcase full of bank and credit card statements that proved the salesman stole money from the company, and a fucking signed note from the former salesman himself that he left on the owners front door that detailed everything he had done.

That was 6 months ago. To date local and state law enforcement have done...jack shit. Meanwhile the former salesman continues to harass current employees of the company. Myself included. I now sleep with a pistol on my nightstand and a loaded shotgun in my closet.

However, the former salesman has now purchased himself a nice new house with the stolen funds and property.

Now, that is a sign of living in a 3rd world country.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2007-05-27   20:03:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#16)

One of the fired salesman titled everything

Yep... Seen this stuff before. Here is the problem; the business AUTHORIZED certain actions by the salesman, which probably included the authority to sign titles and such for business practices, and, probably checks as well. AND; the salesman has friends in the police and/or office of the procecutor.

Once the salesman is officially authorized, the police then take the position that 'you gave him permission, and it is now a legal recovery lawsuit problem, but it ain't criminal.'

Had the same problem when a mechanic that worked for me bought thousands of dollars of spark plugs and other such items to run his mechanic shop out of his garage on the weekends. Course, all we had were diesels, but did not matter to the cops; hey, you gave him permission! He was authorized to purchase materials by you, and that was the end of the story. Never got a dime back, and he never had a problem with the police (course, his brother was a lieutenant in the police department, but we did not know that at the time).

Another thing that this shows is how pervasive is the corruption in the United States, but all you hear about in the media is the so-called corrpution in Mèxico and other so-called third world nations. Do not get me wrong; there certainly is corruption here, but it ain't any worse than in the states; if anything, just a little more open and above board (as if such is possible!).

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