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Title: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval
Source: Press Esc
URL Source: http://pressesc.com/01180202266_eevs
Published: May 27, 2007
Author: IFP Canada
Post Date: 2007-05-27 14:42:23 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 2027
Comments: 124

No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval

Submitted by Canada IFP on Sat, 2007-05-26 18:00. | |

US citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week.

American Civil Liberties Union pointed out that the DHS's Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued and if the department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill’s prohibitions on judicial review.

Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.

"EEVS would be a financial and bureaucratic nightmare for both businesses and workers," said Timothy Sparapani, ACLU Legislative Counsel. "Under this already flawed program no one would be able to work in the U.S. without DHS approval - creating a ‘No Work List’ similar to the government’s ‘No Fly List.’ We need immigration reform, but not at this cost."

The act allocates US$400 million for the implementation of the EEVS, but the Congressional Budgeting Office estimates the system to cost in excess of a billion dollars.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

DHS should be shut down...period.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-27   14:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: who knows what evil (#1)

Absolutely..

This brought to mind this song...

Zipporah  posted on  2007-05-27   14:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

We have reached a sad time in this country's history when you hear people that are seeking freedom giving more consideration to locating in Russia than America.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-27   15:07:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: who knows what evil (#3)

We have reached a sad time in this country's history when you hear people that are seeking freedom giving more consideration to locating in Russia than America.

I have at least two friends who relocated to China. Of course, both were married to Chinese women whose parents came directly from China, but both also say that the change was like a breath of fresh air. That, too, was my reaction once I was relocated to Mèxico and had time to look around and begin to understand the differences. That means, once I had begun to shed the propaganda from the media in the states about so-called third world nations, and, in particular, about Mèxico.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-27   15:57:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151 (#7)

That, too, was my reaction once I was relocated to Mèxico and had time to look around and begin to understand the differences. That means, once I had begun to shed the propaganda from the media in the states about so-called third world nations, and, in particular, about Mèxico.

Can you elaborate on that?

Artisan  posted on  2007-05-27   16:45:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#8)

Can you elaborate on that?

To a degree, yes, but it is something that needs to be experienced to understand.

More than anything, Mèxico is, more than anything, a common law nation; you do not damage someone else, they pretty much leave you alone.

Let me give you an example; there was an American who had a house here, but he did not live in it full time. So this one time, he can down from his home in Phoenix, and found that a number of things had been stolen out of his house. For whatever reason, he became convinced that a Mèxican who lived nearby was responsible. He went to the police, demanded action. They came down, spoke to the man, reported to the American that the Mèxican denied stealing anything, and, absent any evidence to the contrary, there was nothing further that they could do.

The American demanded; yes, DEMANDED, that the police forcibly enter the man`s house and search it and remove all of his, the Amerians, stolen items and return them to him! As the police explained to him, they could not do that, as Mèxican law forbade them from entering into the man`s home without a court order obtained legally, and based on eyewitness testimony.

The American was outraged! Why, if this had happened up in the states, you guys would have busted that door in and I would already have my stuff!!!

The sad thing is, the American was correct, and he also had no idea of just how foolish he sounded to those of us who understand.

And the caveat to this is that, of course, the American was completely wrong, but that did not stop him from making life miserable for the Mèxican and the police until the actual truth came out. The actual thief was his cousin (female), who needed some money quick for his`'habits'. I will let you guess as to what habits that may be.

And how do I know about this? Because I know the editor of the local gringo (English lan.) newspaper here. But the essence of the story pretty well illustrates the differences between Mèxico and the states, and, how far we, as a people, have degenerated.

Here, the police pretty well leave you alone unless you mess with them, or, injure someone. In the states, police work is all about revenue, and no one is immune.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-27   17:13:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: richard9151 (#10)

In your narative you refer to the cousin as female then claim the theft was to support "his" habit. So which is it. And no one especially a gringo gets in the face of a Mexican cop and demands anything especially against a Mexican. I guess I am saying your story is bullshit. But I do agree that in many ways Mexico is alot more laid back and not as controlling as the US which is now in every aspect of peoples lives.

willyone  posted on  2007-05-28   12:41:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: willyone, richard9151, La Raza, All (#18)

Here

Mexican real estate has ‘history of problems’

MARLA DICKERSON SPECIAL TO WESTCOAST HOMES

The norteamericano hunger for leisure and retirement homes in Mexico is left unappeased sometimes by unappetizing, even unsavoury, fare, brokers who disappear with deposit money, homes seized, people jailed.

   Murky property records expose foreigners to complicated title disputes in courts that may not give them a fair the American government cautions its citizens.

   ‘‘There is a history of problems,’’ Liza Davis of the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana comments. ‘‘We ask people to go in with their eyes open.’’

   The most widely publicized dispute in recent years occurred in 2000, Ensenada in

   Mostly retired Americans, the evicted resided in homes built on ejido land, communal farmland that has been the source of complicated title struggles nationwide.
   Mexico’s Supreme Court ruled that the group with whom the Ensenada aggrieved negotiated their land deals was not the rightful owner, a decision that forced some of the people involved to abandon homes worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
   Doug and Dru Davis sold their San Diego home several years ago to buy a $200,000 US house on a Mexican beach, in a fishing village called La Cruz de Huanacaxtle, about 20 minutes from the famous Puerto Vallarta resort town.
   Last fall, however, workers hired by a Mexican development company began to move the beach — by dredging the bay in front of their home to reclaim land from the sea.
   Instead of watching whales pass a couple of hundred metres off their patio, the couple fear they’ll soon be looking at a marina, a hotel and residential high-rises.
   ‘‘This is sending a terrible message to investors,’’ says Doug Davis, 61. ‘‘You think you're buying oceanfront property, and then the [Mexican] government lets someone build in front of you.’’
   He says the absence of transparency stunned him when he and his neighbours began asking questions about the $50-million US project, whose Mexican developers are four well-known local businessmen.
   The 17 affected property-owners eventually engaged lawyers just to obtain basic information about building and environmental permits.
   The homeowners said the original plans called for a much smaller marina development and that officials had yet to show them permits authorizing the expansion in front of their homes.
   Dru Davis said she was taking antidepressants to cope with the stress. The couple fear that their property, which they calculate is worth more than $1 million US, could lose half its value if the development proceeds.
   About 2,200 kilometres up the coast from La Cruz de Huanacaxtle, in Baja California, Bob Torres says the $63,000 US he lost on a modified trailer home was nothing compared to being deprived of his liberty.
   The Los Angeles cinematographer and his wife were arrested, shackled and held in a Tijuana prison in March, the result of a legal dispute with the owner of a trailer park in a place called Rosarito. The park owner covets the prized oceanfront lot.
   Released on bail after three sleepless nights, they fled back to the United States with no plans to return to their favorite getaway.
   ‘‘Rosarito has a bitter taste for me now,’’ says Torres, 60. ‘‘I would not invest in Mexico again.’’
   Torres said the decision was particularly painful since he and his wife, Aide, had vacationed in Rosarito since they were children. Many of those years were spent in a seaside trailer park called La Barca, where the couple in 2002 secured a $300-US-a- month long-term lease on a lot with a spectacular view of the ocean.
   Starting with a 35-foot travel trailer, they added on little by little, eventually creating a two-storey, four-bedroom structure with a deck. Weekends and vacations were spent barbecuing with other long-time residents, mostly Americans.
   Bob Torres said things changed dramatically last year when Fidel Valdespino, son of the park’s long-time owner, took charge of a major portion of La Barca following his father’s death the year before.
   Torres said he arrived one weekend in September to find the water pipe to his lot severed.
   Others have reported their water and electricity was also cut about that time; the access to the public beach was blocked with debris; and a number of homes were burgled. An abandoned trailer sprouted English graffiti that read: ‘‘Gringos go home. This is Mexico.’’
   The word around La Barca was that Valdespino was trying to pressure the tenants to give up their bargain-priced, long-term leases to make way for a more profitable condominium development. Many fled as conditions deteriorated.
   Among the holdouts were Bob and Aide Torres. Arriving at La Barca March 18 for what they thought would be a relaxing weekend, they were arrested on allegations, by Valdespino, that they had damaged the water pipes at the trailer park. A local judge found them guilty without hearing their testimony, unusual for even Mexico's disparate legal system, according to their lawyer, Jose Heing Chig Bazua.
   The frightened pair spent three days and nights in the notorious La Mesa penitentiary in Tijuana. They were released after signing an agreement with Valdespino to remove their dwelling from La Barca within 30 days.
   Valdespino denied making the allegations against the couple, saying the agreement for them to leave was a mutual one.
   Informed that the structure was destroyed mysteriously by fire, the Torreses hired a contractor to haul it away for scrap.
   ‘‘I am not going to fight it,’’ Bob Torres said. ‘‘I fear for our lives.’’
   Los Angeles Times

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-28   13:27:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull, willyone, La Raza, All (#20)

the American government cautions its citizens

Nuff said.

As to whether or not there have been problems, sure. However that may be, the basic rules apply no matter where you are; buyer beware, and when you go into some place where you do not know the rules, hey, better be a lot more than aware! There are always crooks, no matter where you go, and you can find the same type of horror stories anywhere in the US! Usually, with an attorney behind the problems rubbing his hands together as he anticipates his profit!

ejido land, communal farmland This type of land, ejido land, IS NOT FOR SALE. It is protected by the Constitution of Mèxico so that the poor can not be evicted from their land. Of course, this is now being changed because of pressure from the US, where the bankers what a clear path to disposses as many in Mèxico as they have in the states. However, I suspect that at the time this story was written, nothing had changed and this land could not be sold, under any circumstances. BUT, someone got a h--- of a deal on some very cheap land, I suspect, and hey! WHY NOT!!! We all know those dumb Mèxicans are just dumb!

Oops! No such thing as a free lunch, doncha know.

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