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Title: No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval
Source: Press Esc
URL Source: http://pressesc.com/01180202266_eevs
Published: May 27, 2007
Author: IFP Canada
Post Date: 2007-05-27 14:42:23 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 2883
Comments: 124

No jobs for US citizens without Homeland Security approval

Submitted by Canada IFP on Sat, 2007-05-26 18:00. | |

US citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week.

American Civil Liberties Union pointed out that the DHS's Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS) is error plagued and if the department makes a mistake in determining work eligibility, there will be virtually no way to challenge the error or recover lost wages due to the bill’s prohibitions on judicial review.

Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.

"EEVS would be a financial and bureaucratic nightmare for both businesses and workers," said Timothy Sparapani, ACLU Legislative Counsel. "Under this already flawed program no one would be able to work in the U.S. without DHS approval - creating a ‘No Work List’ similar to the government’s ‘No Fly List.’ We need immigration reform, but not at this cost."

The act allocates US$400 million for the implementation of the EEVS, but the Congressional Budgeting Office estimates the system to cost in excess of a billion dollars.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

DHS should be shut down...period.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-27   14:45:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: who knows what evil (#1)

Absolutely..

This brought to mind this song...

Zipporah  posted on  2007-05-27   14:58:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

We have reached a sad time in this country's history when you hear people that are seeking freedom giving more consideration to locating in Russia than America.

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-05-27   15:07:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: who knows what evil (#3)

We have reached a sad time in this country's history when you hear people that are seeking freedom giving more consideration to locating in Russia than America.

I have at least two friends who relocated to China. Of course, both were married to Chinese women whose parents came directly from China, but both also say that the change was like a breath of fresh air. That, too, was my reaction once I was relocated to Mèxico and had time to look around and begin to understand the differences. That means, once I had begun to shed the propaganda from the media in the states about so-called third world nations, and, in particular, about Mèxico.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-27   15:57:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151 (#7)

That, too, was my reaction once I was relocated to Mèxico and had time to look around and begin to understand the differences. That means, once I had begun to shed the propaganda from the media in the states about so-called third world nations, and, in particular, about Mèxico.

Can you elaborate on that?

Artisan  posted on  2007-05-27   16:45:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan (#8)

Can you elaborate on that?

To a degree, yes, but it is something that needs to be experienced to understand.

More than anything, Mèxico is, more than anything, a common law nation; you do not damage someone else, they pretty much leave you alone.

Let me give you an example; there was an American who had a house here, but he did not live in it full time. So this one time, he can down from his home in Phoenix, and found that a number of things had been stolen out of his house. For whatever reason, he became convinced that a Mèxican who lived nearby was responsible. He went to the police, demanded action. They came down, spoke to the man, reported to the American that the Mèxican denied stealing anything, and, absent any evidence to the contrary, there was nothing further that they could do.

The American demanded; yes, DEMANDED, that the police forcibly enter the man`s house and search it and remove all of his, the Amerians, stolen items and return them to him! As the police explained to him, they could not do that, as Mèxican law forbade them from entering into the man`s home without a court order obtained legally, and based on eyewitness testimony.

The American was outraged! Why, if this had happened up in the states, you guys would have busted that door in and I would already have my stuff!!!

The sad thing is, the American was correct, and he also had no idea of just how foolish he sounded to those of us who understand.

And the caveat to this is that, of course, the American was completely wrong, but that did not stop him from making life miserable for the Mèxican and the police until the actual truth came out. The actual thief was his cousin (female), who needed some money quick for his`'habits'. I will let you guess as to what habits that may be.

And how do I know about this? Because I know the editor of the local gringo (English lan.) newspaper here. But the essence of the story pretty well illustrates the differences between Mèxico and the states, and, how far we, as a people, have degenerated.

Here, the police pretty well leave you alone unless you mess with them, or, injure someone. In the states, police work is all about revenue, and no one is immune.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-27   17:13:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: richard9151 (#10)

In your narative you refer to the cousin as female then claim the theft was to support "his" habit. So which is it. And no one especially a gringo gets in the face of a Mexican cop and demands anything especially against a Mexican. I guess I am saying your story is bullshit. But I do agree that in many ways Mexico is alot more laid back and not as controlling as the US which is now in every aspect of peoples lives.

willyone  posted on  2007-05-28   12:41:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: willyone, Jethro Tull (#18)

I guess I am saying your story is bullshit.

Of course it is, and it's utterly transparent. It's the complement of open borders, an oblique approach. If you buy it, you'll be more receptive to open borders.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-05-29   13:47:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Tauzero, all (#52) (Edited)

It's the complement of open borders, an oblique approach. If you buy it, you'll be more receptive to open borders.

Good point. The glory of the Mexican nation is absurd, especially for white Americans. I have no idea what color Richard is, but living in Mexico isn't utopia. If it were, the current invasion we're experiencing would be flowing in the opposite direction. Just Google Mexico and violent crime and the stories are endless.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-29   13:56:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Jethro Tull, Tauzero, willyone, all (#54)

The glory of the Mexican nation is absurd, especially for white Americans.

No body said anything about glory; if Americans, of whatever color, come down here, the first thing they must do is CONTRACT to pay the taxes. Mèxicans are not stupid; they do not extend the rights of their citizens to all johnny-come- latelys.

No body said anything about utopia. I said, there is a LOT more freedom here than there is in the states. A LOT MORE. With a lot less interference from the police, and part of that is that the Mèxicans know very well that they need tourists from the states, and bad stories about how tourists, and any Americans are injured/robbed down here, hurt the tourist trade. Badly.

And the invasion into the United States is by people who have been chased off of their anscetral lands, where they have lived and rasied families for generations, because of NAFTA and the improtation of garbage food from the states.

As to crime rates, pretty hard for anyone living in the US to knock crime in some other courtry. Course, I understand that you two live here, so you probably understand a lot more than I do.... NOT!

And by the way, my eyes are blue.....

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-29   16:47:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: richard9151, all (#55)

And the invasion into the United States is by people who have been chased off of their anscetral lands, where they have lived and rasied families for generations

Are you saying the open border invasion of America by Mexicans is justified because California, and Texas as examples, are actually Mexican anscetral lands?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-29   18:16:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Jethro Tull, robin (#58)

Are you saying the open border invasion of America by Mexicans is justified because California, and Texas as examples, are actually Mexican anscetral lands?

Are you really that dense, Jethro? When did NAFTA take effect, Jethro, and when did the importation of farm-factory produced food into Mèxico from the states start, Jethro? Perhaps if you can answer those two questions, you can start to put a date as to when the so-called invasion from Mèxico actually became a problem.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-29   18:31:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: richard9151 (#64)

And the invasion into the United States is by people who have been chased off of their anscetral lands, where they have lived and rasied families for generations

These are your words. Please explain.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-29   18:41:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#69)

These are your words. Please explain.

Cute, Jethro, and right up your alley, as usual. Just quote a part of the message, right?

Here is the part I posted in number 55 above; andyone who wishes can go up there and read it in full;

And the invasion into the United States is by people who have been chased off of their anscetral lands, where they have lived and rasied families for generations, because of NAFTA and the importation of garbage food from the states.

Now, what part of that relates to California and Texas in the 1840s? Did they have NAFTA then? How about factory farms? Big item in the southwest in the 1840s, right?

But just to clear up any problems with your understanding (impossible!), what happened with NAFTA is that the border between Mèxico and the US was opened completely for food, and the US began shipping all of the excess food THAT THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE SELLING IN OTHER NATIONS because of various things (such as genetic tampering) into Mèxico, where thousands of families began to find that they could no longer support their families on the land that had been in their families for generations.

Little pieces of land, Jethro, usually less than 25 acres; land that they still worked with mules and horses for draft animals. Poor people, Jethro, who sold one or two hogs a year, maybe a hundred bushels of corn and various other food stuffs like chilis and melons. Just enough for money to buy clothing, coffee, cigerattes, some salt and etc. Enough to live on, Jethro, and all of a sudden, in just one year, it all changed with NAFTA, and if you care enough, you can find the info about this on the web.

Those families were driven off of the land, just as 25 million families have been driven off of the land in the US. And they had two choices; into the cities and compete for work that they were not trained for, or, head for the border to the north.

To bad, Jethro, you do not understand the dynamics of what is being done to your own country, much less to others.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-29   18:57:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: richard9151 (#76) (Edited)

anscetral (Mexican) lands (in the USA)

I assume you believe in sovereign national borders for both America and Mexico. Right? Further, I assume you oppose the current unfettered illegal Mexican immigration into America by this uneducated brown horde. Right?

On which side of the border are these anscetral Mexican lands you speak of? Please identify their geographical location and, if they are located in the USA, please identify the right of Mexican title to the land. Thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-29   19:14:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Jethro Tull (#79)

I assume you believe in sovereign national borders for both America and Mexico. Right?

ABSOLUTELY! I admire the steps that Mèxico takes that ensure that anyone entering into Mèxico and planning to stay has a means of supporting themselves. Very intelligent.

you oppose the current unfettered illegal Mexican immigration into America What unfettered immigration?! The laws have been passed and are on the books which welcome these people in... PASSED BY YOUR POLITICIANS! Giving them free medical care, free schooling, free benefits, and their has been posts done on 4um showing how businesses send buses TO THE BORDER TO PICK UP THE WORKERS AND CARRY THEM INTO THE HEARTLAND OF AMERICA! But hey, it is just a Mèxican plot, right?

uneducated brown horde. Jeez, Jethro, does nothing shame you? You let your stupidity shine right on through... no matter what? What constitutes uneducated to you, Jethro, they do not speakum the english? Is that it? My wife is a teacher in Mèxico, Jethro, of ... MATHMATICS!! Get that? And, she is very good at it. In fact, she is one of the very few people I have met in my life that is as quick with numbers as I am. My nephew just graduated from the University. One of my nieces just graduated as an engineer about three years ago. One of my sisters-in-laws is a teacher, as are two of my brothers- in-laws. HERE IS A SHOCKER FOR YOU, JETHRO! THEY HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF SCHOOLS IN MÈXICO!!

And how about if we discuss, instead, the ancestral lands of the American farmers that have been chased off of their lands. It is more to the point, cause the Zionist learned a long time ago that the way to control people is to control their food. So, today, Jethro, you live in the big ol US of A; one of the few countries in the world that can no longer feed itself. BUT HEY! IT IS ALL A MÈXICAN PLOT!!

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-30   10:59:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: richard9151 (#83) (Edited)

My wife is a teacher in Mèxico, Jethro, of ... MATHMATICS!! Get that? And, she is very good at it. In fact, she is one of the very few people I have met in my life that is as quick with numbers as I am. My nephew just graduated from the University. One of my nieces just graduated as an engineer about three years ago. One of my sisters-in-laws is a teacher, as are two of my brothers- in-laws. HERE IS A SHOCKER FOR YOU, JETHRO! THEY HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF SCHOOLS IN MÈXICO!!

HEY PONCHO. I WOULDN'T BRAG ABOUT YOUR CONNECTION TO THE MEXICAN SCHOOL SYSTEM :)

MEXICO'S EDUCATION SYSTEM RANKS LAST AMONG MEMBERS OF ORGANIZATION FOR ECONOMIC COOPERATION AND DEVELOPMENT.

From: SourceMex Economic News & Analysis on Mexico

 | Date: September 22, 2004

 | More results for: mexico's school system

Mexico continues to lag behind other semi-industrialized and industrialized nations in the quality of its education, a factor that some analysts say has contributed to the country's stunted economic development.

In a report published in mid-September, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) ranked Mexico's educational system last among 28 member countries in the quality of education.

All OECD countries except Mexico made advances in improving their educational systems between 1995 and 2003. The report noted that South Korea, a country that had rankings similar to Mexico a generation ago, has vaulted to the top because of the reforms to education implemented in that country. South Korea has been able to develop a highly skilled work force, which produces some of the world's most popular cars and electronics. In contrast, Mexico's work force is made up largely of assembly workers and other manual laborers.

The report acknowledged that Mexico has boosted educational expenditures since 1995 by 36% at the primary and secondary levels and by 22% for higher education. Even with these increases, the amount spent by the Mexican government for each student has declined by 10%. The OECD said the Mexican government spends about US$1,357 per student at the primary level, roughly one- fourth of the average expenditure for all OECD members for the same purpose.

"If Mexico uses itself as a point of reference, then educational expenditures have indeed increased since 1995," said Andreas Schleicher, who heads the OECD's education-monitoring division. "At the international level, the picture is radically different."

About 97% of the new money spent by the government on education since 1995 has been devoted to increasing teacher salaries, a testament to the strength of Mexico's teachers union (Sindicato Nacional de Trabajadores de la Educacion, SNTE).

While experts agree that improving the quality and the number of teachers is a crucial element of education, the government has failed to take other actions that would enhance education, such as constructing new schools and improving infrastructure, curriculum development, and student retention.

"The trend in Mexico's education expenditures is not typical of the other OECD member countries," said the report.

Expenditures low on infrastructure, student retention

The lack of expenditures on infrastructure is also affecting the quality of public education. Some communities do not have enough school buildings to accommodate the number of students who want an education, forcing local educational authorities to use split schedules. This limits the day at public elementary schools to four hours, compared with six or more hours at private institutions.

In some rural and inner- city communities, students have to attend school in crumbling buildings that often lack basic plumbing and leak during heavy rains.

In many cases, public-school students have to pay extra fees to cover the cost of paper, pencils, and other supplies. To cover the cost of paper, one school in Mexico state was charging students 4 pesos (US$0.35) to take a monthly exam.

President Vicente Fox's administration has sought to address the problem partially by expanding an anti-poverty program that pays some parents every month they keep their children in school. But this only benefits a handful of families, since many do not meet the poverty qualifications for participation in the program.

The Mexican government on occasion receives grants or loans from multilateral organizations to improve education. In July of this year, the World Bank approved a US$300 million loan to support Mexico's basic-education- development program, which provides extra support to education for disadvantaged groups, such as children living in rural or marginal urban areas, and handicapped, migrant, and indigenous children. The loan is the third and final phase of the Basic Education Development Program, which the World Bank has been supporting in Mexico since its inception in 1991.

Mexican students fare poorly in aptitude tests

One measure of Mexico's progress--or lack of progress--in education is the aptitude levels of students. In a standardized global evaluation test called the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), Mexican ninth graders placed 34th among the 41 nations participating in the exam and last among the 28 OECD member nations. The same OECD study ranked Mexico last among member countries on the reading ability of 15-year-old youths. Only 6.9% of Mexican students surveyed had a high reading ability, compared with the median of 31.2% for the OECD members.

The poor ranking in education has been an embarrassment for Mexico, which is attempting to portray itself as an emerging industrialized country. The reality is that Mexican education still displays patterns of many lesser-developed countries, such as a high dropout rate at the primary level, particularly in rural areas. About 10% of students drop out of the educational system before completing middle school to take an unskilled job to help support their families.

"There is a bottleneck in the system," Eduardo Velez Bustillo, education section manager for Latin America for the World Bank, told the Los Angeles Times. "Quality is bad at every level, but middle school is a crisis point because that's where the demand is highest."

Mexico's poor educational results have brought an outcry from the business community. It is urging President Fox's government to overhaul the entire system, which offers students little more than basic skills like reading, writing, and arithmetic. Business leaders say Mexico is still unable to compete with better-trained work forces in other countries and has to settle for low-skilled assembly jobs.

On average, Mexicans attain only a seventh-grade education, and just two of every 10 students receive a college education.

"A country without education is a country that won't develop, and our system is even worse than people say," said Isaac Katz, an economics professor at the Instituto Tecnologico Autonomo de Mexico (ITAM). "No one is responsible for quality, results aren't measured, and parents have no voice."

Poor educational system hurts Mexico's competitive position

Some analysts worry that the lack of an educated work force in the long run will keep Mexico from attracting the type of high-value foreign investment that the economy needs. "I see a significant deterioration in competitiveness in Mexico's future," said Eduardo Andere, a professor of international studies at the ITAM. "In social terms, that means more poverty, more insecurity, and more inequality."

Despite the pleas from experts and business leaders, the Fox government has failed to produce any innovative plans for education and has proposed meager increases in expenditures for primary and secondary education in 2005. In its budget proposal for 2005, the Fox government requested about 300.6 billion pesos (US$26.3 billion) for primary and secondary education, an increase of only 1.1% from the amount approved in the 2004 budget.

"Once again, the executive branch fails to comply with a mandate from Congress to increase resources for education, with the goal of eventually reaching funding equivalent to 8% of GDP in 2006," said a statement from the education committee (Comision de Educacion) in the Chamber of Deputies.

Furthermore, the committee criticized the Fox government for proposing to channel some of the increased expenditures in education to "unnecessary bureaucratic costs," such as a higher budget for public relations for the Secretaria de Educacion Publica (SEP).

The full Chamber of Deputies is expected to consider an increase in funding for education, but even the legislative branch may not be able to boost federal allocations by the 87 billion pesos (US$7.6 billion) needed this year to comply with the goals established by Congress to meet the target of 8% of GDP. Education funding will be competing with other social programs, even though Mexico continues to enjoy a windfall from higher-than- expected oil-export revenues. Those additional revenues have been earmarked for allocation to state governments and payments of the domestic and foreign debt.

Responding to the criticisms, Public Education Secretary Reyes Tamez Guerra said the Fox government is not in a position to meet the congressional goals unless the Chamber of Deputies and the Senate approve comprehensive tax reforms to allow the government to increase revenues. He said the lack of revenues also blocked Mexico from matching the expenditures of other developing countries like South Korea, Chile, Poland, and Hungary.

"We have to continue efforts to boost investment [in education]," said Tamez Guerra. "But we will not be able to catch up to the other countries as long as our GDP remains stagnant and as long as we lack structural reforms to allow us to boost revenues."

Expenditures also lag for higher education

The debate about funding levels also extends to higher education, where Mexico devotes less than half the average funding levels for OECD countries. OECD statistics show the government's funding for public higher education amounts to about US$4,000 per student, compared with the average of US$10,000 for OECD countries. This is despite the heavily subsidized college tuition at the Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM) and other public universities. A government effort to raise tuition and fees slightly in 1999 was met with a massive demonstration (see SourceMex, 1999-06-02 and 2000-01-26).

In its 2005 budget plan, the Fox government has proposed minor reductions in expenditures for higher education. The plan would reduce funding to public colleges and universities to the equivalent of 0.48% of GDP, compared with about 0.50% of GDP in 2004. Expenditures for research in science and technology, which are separate from the higher-education budget, would decline to 0.35% of GDP, compared with 0.38% of GDP last year.

"I cannot remain silent when the government each year reduces rather than increases the budgets for research and development and science and technology," UNAM rector Juan Ramon de la Fuente said during a meeting with Tamez Guerra and Public Health Secretary Julio Frenk Mora.

The UNAM rector has received the support of the Instituto Politecnio Nacional (IPN) and the Asociacion Nacional de Universidades e Instituciones de Educacion Superior (ANUIES). ANUIES president Jorge Luis Ibarra Mendivil said the government has to increase expenditures for higher education by about 55 billion pesos (US$4.8 billion) this year to meet the needs of colleges and universities.

"The federal budget lacks resources to expand enrollment or to improve the quality of education," said Ibarra Mendivil. "The lack of funding also affects our strategy to implement structural changes to pensions and retirements [for university employees]," he added. [Note: Peso-dollar conversions in this article are based on the Interbank rate in effect on Sept. 22, reported at 11.40 pesos per US$1.00] (Sources: The Dallas Morning News, 11/19/02; Reforma, 09/17/03; The Washington Post, 11/24/03; World Bank press release, 07/01/04; El Financiero, Agencia de noticias Proceso, 09/14/04, 09/21/04; Notimex, Los Angeles Times, 09/21/04; La Jornada, 09/15/04, 09/22/04; El Universal, 09/15/04, 09/21/04, 09/22/04; La Cronica de Hoy, 09/22/04)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-30   11:40:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Jethro Tull (#86)

"The trend in Mexico's education expenditures is not typical of the other OECD member countries," said the report.

This is true. Education in Mèxico concentrates on the basics, and does not include the indoctrination demanded and used in Europe and the US (as has been posted on 4um in at least 4 different posts). The schools are not baby sitters, and the schools do not interfere with the families as they do in the US. And there is a lot of pressure coming from the US to change this and begin true indoctrination, as I am sure you are in favor of, Jethro.

People who wish, such as ourselves, to have the children go to higher education centers, have to pay for it, as is proper. I once again salute México.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-31   3:03:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: richard9151, Speedy Gonzalez, ALL (#89)

This is true. Education in Mèxico concentrates on the basics, and does not include the indoctrination demanded and used in Europe and the US - Richard9151

Richard, you say Mexican schools concentrate on basics. If true, please explain how Mexico ranked 34th in science and reading and 35th in math, from a pool of 43 nations. Are the students dopey, or are the teachers unqualified? Perhaps a mix of the two??

EDUCATION: DESPITE HEAVY FUNDING, MEXICO'S SCHOOLS GET LOW MARKS

From: Inter Press Service English News Wire

 | Date: October 7, 2004

 | Author: Diego Cevallos

 | More results for: mexico's school system


Inter Press Service English News Wire

10-07-2004

MEXICO CITY, Oct. 7, 2004 (IPS/GIN) -- The 33-student class
taught by Alejandra Avendaño, a Mexican schoolteacher, includes
children from four different grade levels, who are not benefiting
from the experience.

Although Mexico spends more on education as a proportion of
gross domestic product (GDP) than the average of the industrialised
nations grouped in the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and
Development (OECD), Avendaño's school cannot afford to hire another
teacher or purchase new teaching materials.

"If we had more funding for teachers and materials, the children
would be better educated, but this is what we are given by the
authorities," complains Avendaño, 38, who teaches at a
"multi-grade" school in a rural area of the state of Mexico, near
the capital.

Last year, Mexico earmarked 5.9 percent of GDP to education,
0.03 percent more than the average spent on education by the 30
OECD member states. One out of four of Mexico's primary schools are
multi-grade, where educators simultaneously teach students of
different levels.

"If there are more funds for education, as the government
claims, why don't they provide us with another teacher and new
materials," quips Avendaño.

OECD studies indicate that Mexico spends 93.6 percent of its
educational budget on administration and bureaucracy, a proportion
almost 13 percent higher than the average in the OECD,
of which
Mexico is the only Latin American member.

In absolute terms, Mexico spends an annual average of 1,357
dollars on every primary school student, a quarter of the OECD
average, and 4,341 dollars on each higher education student, half
of the OECD average.

The conservative government of Vicente Fox, which inherited an
educational system that had already made great strides in
quantitative terms, maintains that it is working hard to make
spending on education more efficient and improve the performance
of students, one of the big challenges it faces today.

Nevertheless, the budget for 2005 that parliament is to pass
before the end of the year indicates no significant changes aimed
at cutting spending on bureaucracy and improving educational
standards.

The Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), which governed
Mexico from 1929 to 2000, used to boast of its achievements in the
area of education. Yet it was reluctant to admit that the expansion
of coverage was not accompanied by improvements in the quality of
teaching.

While the party was in power, Mexico's illiteracy rate plunged
from 70 to 10 percent, and the average years of formal education
climbed to the second year of high school.

However, little was known about the quality of teaching until
studies began to reveal in 2000 that Mexico was actually earning
a failing grade.

The last PRI administration, the government of Ernesto Zedillo
(1994-2000), hushed up the low score Mexico had earned in an
assessment carried out in 40 countries by the International
Association for the Evaluation of Educational Achievement.
In the 1995 study, Mexican students in the third and fourth
years of primary school and the first and second years of secondary
school ranked lowest in math and science.

One of the most recent studies was carried out last year in 43
countries by the OECD and the United Nations Educational,
Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO), measuring the
academic performance of 15-year-olds.

The Mexican students ranked 34th in science and reading and 35th
in math.
Although Mexico performed better than the other Latin
American countries studied, it hardly earned a passing grade,
according to Andreas Schleicher, director of the Indicators and
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" for="for" if="if" in neglecting what is most important in education -- the students, in
particular the youngest ones", says Alejandra Avendaño.
Experts on education say children studying in multi-grade
schools, such as the one in which Avendaño works, perform poorly
in reading comprehension and solving mathematical problems, since
they do not receive enough attention from their teachers.
In Mexico, a country of 102 million, about 30 million children
and adolescents attend school, half of them at primary level. They
are taught by 1.5 million teachers, most of them members of trade
unions, who earn an average of 12,000 dollars a year.

The trade unions have close ties with the PRI, as do labour
organisations in other sectors, which helped the party stay in
power in the past.

Fox, the first non-PRI president in seven decades, preferred to
get on well with the teachers' unions and not confront their
leaders who, according to dissident groups of teachers, are
corrupt.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-31   13:06:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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"If we had more funding for teachers and materials, the children would be better educated, but this is what we are given by the authorities," complains Avendaño, 38, who teaches at a "multi-grade" school in a rural area of the state of Mexico, near the capital.

As has been posted on 4um before, Jethro, more spending on education DOES NOT mean better education. It means more centralized control and more indoctrination of students, and not much more.

Of course, I understand that you know much more about it than I do. Of course, my wife, the math teacher, just had one of her students win first place in math for the State of Sonora, and will shortly being going with the student to the national competition. But hey, what do I know.

What I do know is that there are problems in education in Mèxico, but those are small problems compared to what is going on in the states in the schools. And, as I have mentioned, this has been posted on 4um numerous times; the problems in US schools.

richard9151  posted on  2007-05-31   13:13:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#99. To: richard9151 (#97)

Of course, my wife, the math teacher......

See above, re; the math skills of the little brown ones your wife teaches. Now, please answer the question. Are the kids dopey, or are Mexican teachers unqualified? Perhaps both??

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-05-31 13:20:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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