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Title: Tom007 report ( I am heaving weeping as I post)
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Published: May 29, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-05-29 23:29:04 by tom007
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Adam just got out of surgery and things were not as good as we had hoped. The skin grafts were not healing on his buttocks and turns out he took a nasty piece of shrapnal through the right butt cheek and it left a tube of a wound which is not healing. The surgeon took pretty much all of his right butt cheek off but did not have to go to bone. Adam will have to have a colostomy bag put in place on Thursday but only as a way to prevent contamination to the wound. The surgeon thinks he will only need it 6-12 months. Hopefully this will help him conquer the fever. Tomorrow we will find out how the arm burns are doing but right now not much hope for saving his fingers. The good news, the lower back and all the head skin grafts are doing well. I am glad to have you all as my family, it gives me strength to share our burden with you all. Love you all,
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#23. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
What gets me is the recruiters go to high schools and get the guys all hyped up to join. I know young guys tend to think they are immortal, that nothing bad can happen to them, they must think that because who would want to take a chance ending up with half their body blown away? I just don't get it. I suppose the recruiters don't focus much on that possibility when trying to get them to enlist, makes me curious as to what they tell them, how they sell to them joining the military to go into combat.
Tom, I'm so sorry to hear about your nephew's injuries. How many of our youth are being damaged, destroyed and discarded ? I don't think we'll ever really know the truth, but each one is too many.
RON PAUL or REVOLUTION
I was listening to Bush's comments about amnesty for the illegal Mexicans yesterday and couldn't help thinking that he sounded desparate in his threats towards those opposed to his plan. He needs troops and Americans are disenchanted. Poor Mexicans will become the cannon fodder when he runs out of Americans.
RON PAUL or REVOLUTION
Last I saw, the Bush clan was quite large, with lots of younger nieces and nephews and such. So, how many young Bush's and Cheney's are going to fight in this war? Hmmmm, let me guess.....
A World War I-era American soldier in a hospital realizes that he was hit by an artillery shell and lost his arms, legs, ears, eyes and most of his face. The remaining torso and head is being kept alive by machines. Using his head to tap out morse code, he asks someone to help him leave the hospital or die. Neither of his wishes are granted.
#24. To: tom007 (#0)
#25. To: Diana (#23)
#26. To: noone222 (#25)
He needs troops and Americans are disenchanted.
 | Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise. |
#27. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
I thought that I really hated Clinton, but Bush has given a whole new meaning to hate from my perspective. Worse and worser.
RON PAUL or REVOLUTION
#28. To: tom007 (#0)
Best wishes and prayers. His sacrifice and your pain are the result of a foreign policy which has been hijacked by sick, evil individuals. Every one of these kids needs to leave that sandpit NOW- alive and healthy – by any means necessary.
#29. To: tom007 (#0)
Not good at all. Hope Adam improves soon. When you have a few moments, check out this piece.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#30. To: tom007. Adam (#0)
We haven't met in person, but your story puts a face on this insanely horrific "war" for me. Thank you for sharing here.
Continued thoughts and prayers for you and all your family.
#31. To: tom007 (#0)
tom, my heart goes out to you, your family, and especially to adam. i just pray that they are able to save his fingers. i wish there more that i could do. love,
#32. To: Red Jones (#18) (Edited)
We were a company of mighty heroes. I was but one among many (there as here). And what's with the past tense anyway? We ain't dead yet. ;^)
You were a mighty hero in spreading news over at FreeRepublic and on LP.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
#33. To: tom007 (#14)
I pray that Adam will do as well as can be done in this bad situation. Be strong for him.
#34. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, Peetie Wheatstraw, robin, christine, Zipporah (#22)
That is if you haven't already. It is an older book, but it's message is timeless. Mike, Although your sensitivity is well known I'm not sure that this is the right time to reference this most disturbing book and film. Perhaps because the plot is my worst nightmare, and I live clean and am honest in all my dealings just so our creator will take notice and hopefully never allow this to happen to me. The thought of anyone suffering that way makes me want to weep and scream. And, I don't have a loved one undergoing a medical ordeal. To those who are inclined to make anti war statements here, I ask for your compassion for those who are beyond that now.
Read Johnny Got his Gun by Dalton Trumbo
#35. To: Diana (#23)
The video game Counter Strike is perfectly safe.
What gets me is the recruiters go to high schools and get the guys all hyped up to join. I know young guys tend to think they are immortal, that nothing bad can happen to them, they must think that because who would want to take a chance ending up with half their body blown away?
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
#36. To: HOUNDDAWG (#34)
You make a good point. Just recently Ferret posted that when he sees a wounded/maimed veteran, he thanks them for their service to our country, and I replied to him that it's what I say also. Nothing more.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
#37. To: robin (#36)
Very good, and thank you.
#38. To: All (#36)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXq8Qbe2nR0 Here's Bob Dylan's opinion.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
#39. To: Elliott Jackalope (#26)
The ChickenHawks and all their little chicks are all despicable. The Brits are smarter, they dressed up Harry like he was going to Iraq (hoorah), then there was a flurry of articles about how he was already a target and he would endanger his whole unit.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
#40. To: tom007 (#0)
As a family member I will share this with you. Those of us of WW2/Korea duty are passing on to a better life at a national rate of 1200 per day. Soon our numbers will be few and our burden will rest upon veterans of Vietnam and Iraq. We have grieved for years over lost family and friends, a grief that never ends. Now we can only silently cry as we witness once again the innocent young men of our country that pay the price for the arrogance of its elders. May God bless your nephew and his family...
I am glad to have you all as my family, it gives me strength to share our burden with you all.
#41. To: Cynicom (#40)
heartfelt, Cyni
#42. To: tom007 (#0)
Please take my best wishes and hopes. I'll go do something I haven't done in a long time; dig out the candles and the rosary...
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
#43. To: mirage (#42)
Light one from all of us here.
#44. To: robin (#36)
Ditto. Many actually look surprised when I do so.
Just recently Ferret posted that when he sees a wounded/maimed veteran, he thanks them for their service to our country, and I replied to him that it's what I say also. Nothing more.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#45. To: tom007 (#0)
Tom, please accept my prayers, best wishes, affection, and deep respect in this terrible time.
Puissent tous les hommes se souvenir qu'ils sont frères!
#46. To: lodwick (#43)
You got it.
Light one from all of us here.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
#47. To: robin (#35)
They probably promise them college and other benefits that most will never see.
The video game Counter Strike is perfectly safe.
#48. To: Diana (#47)
Yep.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
#49. To: tom007 (#0)
Oh dear Jesus.. oh tom.. Im so deeply sorry.. I'll be praying for Adam and your family..
#50. To: HOUNDDAWG (#34) (Edited)
Au contraire, the book speaks of the survival of a casualty in those time would be left to die. The book is mostly written about the life of the man with his current condition as a framing of how cherished and valuble his life was and the tragedy of his passing from it to a half existance. I see a burning building, that building is called Iraq. Men wome and children are dying in it and the demented fire chief, George Bush won't pull people out and let the fire incited by our presence die away. I am grieved. You have to understand that I was in the Army long enough to still care about it and I care about this country. All I have is my power to try to communicate my thoughts. To try to make people think and understand things that create deeper understanding of the context of this war. By doing so I better think things through and understand things better myself. Thanks for your input, but I do not concur. If the war was over or never had occurred, OK, you would have a point. It is important to have threads like this to remind ourselves what we care about most and to remind ourselves why family and friends are what make us all whole. Since this thread started until now, this moment and at the time of it's natural death, more precious lives have been rubbed out or damged by this war. I am going nuts with grief, anger, a sense of helpless rage. I am sorry you only see my words and none of my tears and sleeplessness at night. How I anger easily and find it hard to concentrate on important things I need to do as life goes on. But I assure you I can say nothing but what I did and do now in light of how I feel these days. I know you say what you do because you care, but so do I. We all do what we have to do.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
#51. To: tom007 (#0)
Thank YOU Tom for sharing this with us. Adam and his family and all your family are in our prayers. It hurts us all to hear of a tragedy like this, but for you - the family - the pain must be immense. It would be one thing if it were to happen for a legitimate reason, but when it happens because of lies, deceit, and personal agenda... Some day Smirk will have to face the Creator and make an accounting for what he has done. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes...
I am glad to have you all as my family, it gives me strength to share our burden with you all.
If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein
#52. To: innieway (#51)
Somehow I tend to believe that that he will face accounting before that day.
Some day Smirk will have to face the Creator and make an accounting for what he has done
#53. To: Cynicom. everyone here (#52)
We can hope.
Somehow I tend to believe that that he will face accounting before that day.
#54. To: lodwick, Cynicom, innieway (#53)
A little justice in our lifetime? Oh yes, I hope and pray for that.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
#55. To: tom007, BeAChooser (#0)
I notice that the Pentagon and MSM only report the deaths of American troops, but fail to report the devastating and life ruining injuries of young men like Adam. Succubus, this should be your ass. I notice you've no comment on this thread yet you post article after article defending this evil debacle. You really are a loathesome bastard.
#56. To: Nostalgia (#55)
lol - what a shot across the bow.
Succubus, this should be your ass. I notice you've no comment on this thread yet you post article after article defending this evil debacle. You really are a loathsome bastard.
#57. To: Nostalgia (#55)
an apt description.
loathesome bastard.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
#58. To: Nostalgia, BeAChooser (#55)
Well stated, and well DESERVED! So, oozer - just how many relatives or friends do YOU have over in Iraq/Afghanistan? I'm sure the answer is zero, just like all the other government cronies whose only real concerns/ties to this "war" on an undefinable "enemy" are how much profit they reap from their investments in the various "war machine" companies. General Smedley Butler had it right when he said that the best way to assure that wars would ONLY be fought if absolutely necessary, and then a swift victory and an end to the war brought about in very short order would be a law mandating that immediately upon declaration of war, ALL legislators, ALL parties of the administration, and ALL executives of ALL war-supply/contractor companies have their salaries reduced to the same amount as a Private-First-Class in the army makes for the length of the war...
Succubus, this should be your ass. I notice you've no comment on this thread yet you post article after article defending this evil debacle. You really are a loathesome bastard.
If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein
#59. To: innieway, tom007 (#58)
A Call From Baghdad My son called this morning, he's ok. But we had a really good conversation. A lot of it was about the increase in activity there. But he's starting to defy the officers. He refused to wear his flame suit on patrol this morning because he said, "a lot good it does, we just lost 4 guys and they were wearing them, we just have them because of war profiteering. The government gives money to the companies who make this shit and say ‘oh, let's give it to the soldiers!’" Then we started talking about movies, and he refuses to watch anything related to 9/11. He said, "Ma, did you watch that WTC movie yet? We have it here and I won't watch that stuff because it just gets everybody pissed off again and I am tired of hearing that we should kill more people because of 9/11." He then said, "Ma, by the year 2050 we will still be killing in the name of 9/11!!" "Probably when I die and go to heaven people will still be saying, let's kill because of 9/11!" "Enough with killing in the name of 9/11!" I tell all my friends here that we should just move on and get over it. We aren't proving anything." I almost fell out of bed. But he was able to talk freely because he was told to stay back from patrol because he wouldn't wear his flame suit. He said "I lost it." They said “how the hell did you loose it?” He said it disappeared! Then he said to me, "so what are they going to do to me? Make me go to Iraq?" "I'm not taking part in any war profiteering. I was reading all about it in Newsweek last issue we got here." "That's some shit!" Anyway, we talked about 45 minutes while his company was on patrol, and then they returned so he got off the phone waiting to be yelled at. He said, "so they yell at me, who cares." - A Military Mom
http://www.traveling-soldier.org/9.06.call.php
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#60. To: innieway, ALL (#58)
Who here disagrees that war is terrible? Not me. Who here is so naive as to think noone ever profits from war or preparing for war. Not me. But I hate to tell you this, Smedley doesn't offer a doable alternative. His idea of conscripting "officers and the directors and the high- powered executives of our armament factories and our munitions makers and our shipbuilders and our airplane builders and the manufacturers of all the other things that provide profit in war time as well as the bankers and the speculators" simply isn't going to happen. Not on our side. Not on anyones. So his solution is absolutely worthless in the real world. His notion that "workers in these plants get the same wages - all the workers, all presidents, all executives, all directors, all managers, all bankers - yes, and all generals and all admirals and all officers and all politicians and all government office holders - everyone in the nation be restricted to a total monthly income not to exceed that paid to the soldier in the trenches!", is also not going to happen. As nice as it may sound to you, it is a worthless suggestion. He and you might as well recommend we discover the genie in the bottle and make the end of war one of our wishes. Both have the same chance of happening. ZERO. Furthermore, he claims that kings and tycoons and masters of business and all those workers in industry and all our senators and governors and majors aren't running any risk of being killed or of having their bodies mangled or their minds shattered. Well that may have been true in 1917 and even until the early 30's but the world isn't the same now. 9/11 proved that Washington ... indeed any American city and any American ... is a potential target. You and I sitting here typing back and forth are potential targets. This is a war on TERRORISM and the other side considers even women and children to be fair game. This isn't the early 20th century ... its the early 21st century when smallpox, VX, radiological bombs and even hijacked aircraft delivered by terrorists against CIVILIANS are the weapons of the bad guys. And they would love nothing better than to repeat what happened on 9/11. Smedley says "give capital and industry and labor thirty days to think it over and you will find, by that time, there will be no war." My question to you is how do you propose to make Hitler, Osama, Saddam or those bombing Iraqi civilians do the same? Again, Smedley's solution is simply not practical in this modern world where wars can be won or lost in 100 hours and where capital, industry and labor are the targets. And what Smedley had to offer about the causes of war mostly don't apply to 21st century conflicts (nor even the late 20th century ones). Do you think that Osama flew planes into building in NYC for profit? No. Do you think Saddam's motivations were profit? If you believe that then YOU haven't read anything about or by them. Smedley's notion of having a plebiscite made up of those who would fight decide if we go to war is counter to the principles on which this country was founded. Why should YOU or I (assuming I'm not one of those would be called to fight) have nothing to say about the matter in this era when all of us are on the front lines? The fact is we are NOT disenfranchised ... which is really what you are claiming. This is a REPUBLIC and the decision to go to war is made by our REPRESENTATIVES. What part of REPUBLIC don't you understand? The founders of this country made it a REPUBLIC for very good reasons ... so that our government wouldn't be led by "mobs". I don't want decisions as important as going to war to be made by what would essentially amount to a poll taken by ABC because the voters in this country have already shown they don't make good decisions that way. War should be entered upon only after serious and prolonged consideration ... something many people in this country (and I would hazard many people in the service) are simply not able to do. Polls are half the reason we got Bill Clinton. And may get Hillary. Furthermore, note that most members of the military ... volunteers one and all ... have been and continue to be supportive of this war and it's objectives. So would you really be willing to let the decision be made by them? I rather doubt it. In which case, this argument is just another debating *tactic* from your side of the aisle. You've no intention of following the lead of those who are doing the fighting. Your side of this debate has demonstrated that since the beginning of the war when those fighting were uniformly supportive of the effort ... and you weren't. Smedley goes on to write "a third step in this business of smashing the war racket is to make certain that our military forces are truly forces for defense only." ROTFLOL! Again, Smedley is sadly out of date. His advice applies to a different century ... perhaps not even the 20th century. This "expert" doesn't know the number one rule ... a good offense is the best defense. In this day and age, given the terrible consequences of allowing even a few of the enemies weapons to reach your homeland, this has never been truer. For that reason, I and most people want the war on terrorism fought somewhere OTHER than our streets. For this reason I and others are not willing to allow the other guy to get in the first punch ... because the first punch might be fatal to me and millions of my fellow citizens. Therefore, if it looks like the other guy is going to attack, I'm all for taking away his toys. And that is precisely the situation we had in Iraq and may have in Iran. And although I read the rest of Smedley's essay, I'm not going to bother addressing anything more specifically. I'm simply going to suggest that if YOU really believe Smedley's solution is workable, why don't you take a copy of the article over to Iraq and use it to convince the insurgents to disarm and stop killing thousands of their own citizens in terrorists acts (along with many of our soldiers).
General Smedley Butler had it right when he said that the best way to assure that wars would ONLY be fought if absolutely necessary, and then a swift victory and an end to the war brought about in very short order would be a law mandating that immediately upon declaration of war, ALL legislators, ALL parties of the administration, and ALL executives of ALL war-supply/contractor companies have their salaries reduced to the same amount as a Private-First-Class in the army makes for the length of the war...
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#61. To: BeAChooser (#60)
It appears that General Butler was talking over your head.. It would seem that after more than 70 years of availability you would understand what he was saying. Don't feel bad, there are many in the same swamp.
So his solution is absolutely worthless in the real world.
#62. To: BeAChooser, Nostalgia, Lodwick, Red Jones, ALL (#60)
Ooser, you really are a despicable motherfucker!!!!! Out of all that blather you posted, you showed NO SYMPATHY WHATSOEVER to Tom or his family (which is what the thread is about - and my apologies to Tom for having this in this thread). Instead you post about "terrorism" and this "war on terrorism"; as if "terrorists" are such a major threat. For your information, there have only been 50,868 people killed WORLDWIDE as a result of terrorism since 1968(!!); and over half of those have been in the Middle East! More people die EACH YEAR ON AMERICAN HIGHWAYS! To make matters worse, we need only sacrifice 96 more of our American youths in this stinking "war" to equal the total death toll of of lives lost due to terrorism in ALL of North America since 1968!! So you and your beloved Bush, Cheney, Rice and the rest; and their stinking "war" on an undefinable enemy which you so proudly support; and all of the rest of your ilk - can all drown in the bottom of the Pacific Ocean for all I care. Fuck all of ya'll; the world would be a much better place without ANY of you. The rest of us don't need to be "protected" from OBL and "terrorists" - the odds are greater that we'll drown in the pool in our backyard than die as a result of an attack perpetrated by those "terrorists" (unless you are talking about BushCo as being the terrorists). You're a heartless piece of shit. I had posted before that you are Satanic - and Biblical teachings combined with your words support that notion. I stand firm in that belief. Screw you AND your unholy alliances. Relentless Oaf Tenaciously Fostering Lividly Obvious Lies
ROTFLOL
If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein
#63. To: innieway (#62)
Oooooo...that's gotta hurt. Great rant.
Relentless Oaf Tenaciously Fostering Lividly Obvious Lies
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
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