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Title: Backers of Immigration Bill More Optimistic
Source: washington post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... 455.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR
Published: Jun 4, 2007
Author: Jonathan Weisman
Post Date: 2007-06-04 08:57:59 by TommyTheMadArtist
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: Open Borders, treason, traitors, ALL.
Views: 236
Comments: 9

After a week at home with their constituents, the Senate architects of a delicate immigration compromise are increasingly convinced that they will hold together this week to pass an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, with momentum building behind one unifying theme: Today's immigration system is too broken to go unaddressed.

Congress's week-long Memorial Day recess was expected to leave the bill in tatters. But with a week of action set to begin today, the legislation's champions say they believe that the voices of opposition, especially from conservatives, represent a small segment of public opinion. Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), who led negotiations on the bill for his party, said the flood of angry calls and protests that greeted the deal two weeks ago has since receded every day.

"You just have to recognize you will get 300 calls, you'll get conflicts at town hall meetings -- all of them negative," said Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who consulted with Kyl and hopes to carry a similar deal through the House in July. "The last few days have really turned things around."

Public opinion polls seem to support Kyl's contention that Americans are far more open to the deal than the voices of opposition would indicate. In a Washington Post-ABC News poll released today, 52 percent of Americans said they would support a program giving illegal immigrants the right to stay and work in the United States if they pay a fine and meet other requirements. Opposition to that proposal was 44 percent.

So far, the dozen senators who cut the deal have been able to hold their compromise together. They have beaten back amendments that the group deemed to be coalition-killers, such as one to strike the bill's temporary-worker program and another to remove its provisions to legalize the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.

This week's amendments are more subtle, and therefore, more threatening to the coalition.

Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) will push to make the Department of Homeland Security consider more of the family-based immigration applications that have already been filed, adding 833,000 immigrants. Kyl said he will withdraw his support for the bill if the amendment passes.

He also said he will walk away if Menendez and Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) win passage of an amendment that would more than double the number of green cards available under the bill for the parents of U.S. citizens. Kyl said conservatives believe today's family unification system is being misused by illegal immigrants, whose U.S.-born children are citizens.

Such amendments will be difficult to resist for the compromise's chief Democratic architect, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (Mass.), who helped create the family unification system in 1965 and whom conservatives are now counting on to help dismantle it.

Republicans in the coalition will be expected to oppose amendments that put them in equally difficult positions. One, sponsored by Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.), would expand the list of crimes making illegal immigrants ineligible for legalization. Cornyn has emphasized infractions such as gang activity and "aggravated felonies."

Democrats say the list would virtually wipe out the legalization program by barring undocumented workers who ignored deportation orders, overstayed their visas or otherwise evaded immigration authorities.

In addition, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) would like to prohibit illegal immigrants who are legalized under the law from obtaining the earned-income tax credit to bolster low-income work.

For Republicans in the coalition, opposing such amendments will only increase the pressure they are facing at home. Over the break, Sens. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) and Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.) were booed at their state party conventions. And President Bush's attempt to give Republicans political cover by praising the deal may have backfired. Republican opponents in the House now call the proposal the "Kennedy-Bush Amnesty" bill.

"I just know that we've got a tough week ahead of us," Kyl said.

But Kyl and several immigration lobbyists also point to a different dynamic. The bill's authors, as well as advocates of comprehensive immigration legislation, have been arguing that flawed as it is, the measure must go forward legislatively and eventually it will be fixed.

That dynamic is driven by certain realities: a two-year backlog of legal immigration applications, a workforce in the United States that is as much as 5 percent illegal, and a growing patchwork of conflicting state and local immigration ordinances that threaten to paralyze business.

"The glue that is keeping this process going is the absolute agreement by all the disparate groups that the current system is absolutely dysfunctional," said Bruce Josten, chief lobbyist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

But as it moves forward, the deal has taken on a life of its own. Senators from both parties have already taken political hits over their stands on the bill and on amendments to it. Even if advocacy groups withdraw their support, politicians will be loath to come out of the fight empty-handed.

If he pulls his support for the bill over a "killer" amendment, Kyl said, he will be accused of succumbing to right-wing threats, and he is not sure he can persuade enough colleagues to bolt with him. Brent Wilkes, national executive director of the League of United Latin American Citizens, said his group is in the same position, saying it would bring the bill down if the Senate does not restore the family reunification system and give temporary workers a chance to appeal for citizenship. But such threats may carry no weight.

"We've been saying, 'Go forward, go forward, keep the process running' for so long, it's not realistic to think we can stop this after we've already made people take such difficult votes," Wilkes said. "I don't know how we got into the box that we've gotten into, but I don't see how we can find a winning hand."

Polling Director Jon Cohen and polling analyst Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

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#1. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Today's immigration system is too broken to go unaddressed.

What horse-hockey.

Today's laws are too un-enforced to go unaddressed.

Sorry bastards.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-04   9:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

The "time-out" Dingy Harry Reid took with this bill was utilized to buy the legislation; much like NAFTA was purchased some years back. I predict it will pass and illegals will become legal with the stroke of a pen. No one will ever convince me that Bush didn't help elect this new socialist congress. They're much less of an obstacle for him that their predecessors.

Dempsy  posted on  2007-06-04   10:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#0)

Author: Jonathan Weisman....

Polling Director Jon Cohen and polling analyst Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

nuff said.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-06-04   10:26:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist, robin, christine, all (#0)

the Senate architects of a delicate immigration compromise are increasingly convinced that they will hold together

Get over it; this was a done deal from the beginning. The only ones not getting it, and understanding, are those who have no clue as to the reasons behind the flood of immigrants.

"It was only after World War II that immigration law was drastically changed...In one of the first pieces of evidence of its political coming of age, the Jewish community had a leadership role in effecting those changes." (Earl Raab, Jewish Bulletin, July 23, 1993, p. 17)

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-04   11:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: richard9151 (#4)

The reason why we're being flooded with Illegals, is to incorporate the United States into a North American Union, where our astronomical deficit will be spread over 2 more countries, full of soon to be taxpayers, all chipping in to make sure that American Government, and the Federal Reserve stay solvent.

The shit we're seeing, NAFTA, GATT, and this new Immigration crap, is about one thing, Global Welfare. We're creating welfare for other countries to shore up our flagging dollar, as well as giving corporations a means to stay tax free by shipping work to these foreign countries.

It's all a cheat, on the backs of the American Taxpayer. People should wake up, but they're too busy shopping at Walmart.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-06-04   12:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: richard9151 (#4)

...and in the end, the US will go broke and devolve into violence.

Unfortunately for most of the amnesty-grantees, Americans are well-armed. When TSHTF, Americans won't put up with Latin American "We march!" - they'll mow down the protestors and rioters.

Some of these people need an education in "cultural awareness"...and its not the Americans.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-04   13:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#5)

The reason why we're being flooded with Illegals, is to incorporate the United States into a North American Union, where our astronomical deficit will be spread over 2 more countries, full of soon to be taxpayers, all chipping in to make sure that American Government, and the Federal Reserve stay solvent.

Actually, into the New World Oder.. er Order. It was said back in the 1950s; the standard of living in America has to be brought down to the level of the rest of the world so that the United States can be joined into the New World Government.

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-04   16:18:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#6)

Unfortunately for most of the amnesty-grantees, Americans are well-armed. When TSHTF, Americans won't put up with Latin American "We march!" - they'll mow down the protestors and rioters.

Yeah, and meanwhile, the people behind the non-sense just go blithly on their merry way, passing more and more laws and signing more and more treaties while you worry about the symptoms of the problem.

Just like dum-arse doctors; treat the symptoms until the patient dies..... NEVER deal with the real problem.

Try reading the post; Passage of NAFTA in Mèxico

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-04   16:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: richard9151 (#8)

Try reading the post; Passage of NAFTA in Mèxico

I have. That is Government once it slips its chains. It goes out of control and becomes self-serving.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-04   16:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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