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Title: Sad Update on tom007's Nephew
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Published: Jun 4, 2007
Author: tom007
Post Date: 2007-06-04 18:10:48 by tom007
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Mitchell: Karen spent Saturday night with us. The news from San Antonio is horrible. Below are some portions of what she told us Saturday night. She flies down this Friday. Sally and Bill can go into Adam's room. The only place not burned or had skin harvested for a graft was on Adam's stomach. The doctors would let them into the burn unit of the ICU only after Bill and Sally had full scrubs on. Sally could put her hand on Adam's stomach and talk to him. Last Thursday/Friday he had another surgery. They found more wound in his right gluteious muscle and had to remove the entire glut. muscle. The surgeons then had to put in a colostomy bag to prevent infections. So now Sally does not even have a spot on Adam's stomach to rub or hold him.

Sally also learned to not ask any family members of other soldiers how long they have been in San Antonio. She asked one lady on Friday and she replied; "Twelve Months." At least Adam is not in the shape of the husband of a woman who also sits in the waiting room. This woman and her husband have a 3 year old and 10 month old. The kids are with them in the hospital waiting room and visiting room. His burns are worse than Adam's burns plus he has lost both of his arms at the shoulder.

The hospital is an absolute hell of carnage. Young boys with no ears, noses gone, prosthetic limbs. Last night they were bringing in 5 seriously wounded. Today they are bringing in 15 more. Subscribe to *9-11*

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#1. To: All (#0)

I have changed some of the names. As you may imagine, this is a difficult and heart rendering time for our family.

I think the US needs to realize what is happening to us in Iraq. And hold some people and organizations accountable.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-04   18:12:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: tom007 (#1)

I have been reading your threads about your nephew, and I honestly am at a total loss for words. That's why I haven't said anything before. I still don't know what to say except that he and the family are in my thoughts and prayers.

In this day and age of super secret spying on everything we the people say and do, and with just about everything we say and do being a crime against the state, I don't really want to say what goes through my mind when I think about this.


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-04   18:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tom007 (#0)

I'm extremely sorry to hear this Tom. May God provide comfort to your nephew, as well as to you and your family.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-04   18:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Critter (#2)

and with just about everything we say and do being a crime against the state, I don't really want to say what goes through my mind when I think about this.

Thanks critter. There is really nothing TO say.

I just hope for accountability here on earth.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-04   18:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: tom007 (#1)

I think the US needs to realize what is happening to us in Iraq.

MSM has made it so easy for complacent Americans to read the daily rag and in medium print read...Seven soldiers killed in Iraq...The number varies, the pain and suffering is unbearable for those involved and Americans hurry to the sport page for the huge headlines, "Yanks Win"...

Having lost family and friends in the past, I do know the pain.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-04   18:33:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#0)

The hospital is an absolute hell of carnage. Young boys with no ears, noses gone, prosthetic limbs. Last night they were bringing in 5 seriously wounded. Today they are bringing in 15 more.

The facility he is at is the Best.

From what I am hearing of the true inside conditions of Walter Reed, well it is simply goulish.

Forgotten, destroyed and warehoused kids packed in this immense filthy building.

Let's support the troops.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-04   18:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tom007, Brian S, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Diana, All (#0)

Really sorry to hear the news. All this is gut-wrenching to all. Sing out if anything can be done by us - cards, etc.

Ralph


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-06-04   18:47:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#0)

i've got tears brimming.

christine  posted on  2007-06-04   19:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#5)

and they only report the deaths in the field, not the horrible injuries such as Adam's or the resultant deaths.

christine  posted on  2007-06-04   19:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SKYDRIFTER (#7)

Sing out if anything can be done by us - cards, etc.

Hemp neckties for the guilty mofos.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-06-04   19:12:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: tom007 (#0)

The hospital is an absolute hell of carnage.

The pain your nephew and the other burn victims must have gone through; with such encompassing serious burns.

Still praying...

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-06-04   19:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tom007 (#0)

Tom your info on all this is really bringing the horror of it all home to me, and making me realize just how evil those people who promote this war are. This is a nightmare.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-04   19:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Diana (#12) (Edited)

For me too.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-06-04   19:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tom007, Brian S, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Diana, All (#6)

From the Viet Nam years, a doctor at the Army's Camp Zama, Japan (a medevac stopoff when I came out of 'Nam) wrote the book "365 Days," an account of the burn victims of the Viet Nam War. It's depressing, but clearly illuminates the hell of Wartime burn victims.

Praise be to Boy George!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-06-04   20:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)

Tom, thank you for your posts. As hard as they must be to write (and read), they are true, and making people confront the true (and immeasurable) cost of this war just might sober up even the most blood-drunk apocolypse-lusting GOPer and help to end this war ASAP.

My heart goes out to you, your family and Adam. May he endure and overcome this present hell, heal and be restored, in soul if not in body.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-06-04   20:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tom007 (#6)

I am so sorry at the grim news. My best hopes and wishes for this young man's recovery.

A good fellow poster from Time.Come/Politics, Vicki Yancy whom I had gotten to know well enought to trade personal E mailings with died on a plane 9 11.

Thinking about her has kept me awake nights, and worrying about your nephew does the same to me. Just to let you know, you all are in my thoughts, always.

He deserves only to have good things to happen in his life now, and I hope that is so.

Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-06-04   20:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Arator (#15)

Mark, you have such a way with words.

christine  posted on  2007-06-04   21:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: christine, Arator (#17)

Mark, you have such a way with words.

He does.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-06-04   21:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: tom007 (#0)

bump to the top

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-06-04   21:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: tom007 (#0)

May your nephew and his family be now restored to perfect health and happiness.

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi

angle  posted on  2007-06-04   22:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Critter (#10)

Hemp neckties for the guilty mofos.

With you on that. The people will have their day.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-04   22:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SKYDRIFTER (#14)

Praise be to Boy George!

May G-d Almighty have mercy on those of us who put our military in the hands of this soulless dictator back in November of 2000.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-06-04   22:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: tom007 (#0)

If there is a God and a Just God, Bush and his Zionist buddies shall forever burn in hell.

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-06-04   22:26:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Arator, diana, ferret mike, all, ada (#15)

Thanks to all. My mind has been spagetti since I heard the news he was in San Antonio, best place if you are badly wounded.

He was such a pleasant kid and so smart. He has a caring family so his future is OK.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-04   22:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#9)

not the horrible injuries such as Adam's or the resultant deaths.

I think the Bush/Zionist regime is warehousing a lot of the horribly injured out of the public's eye down to Fort Stewart near Savannah.

Fort Sam is the premier medical post of the US Army staffed with MANY dedicated and highly trained medical professionals who deal with the political casualties of the Satanic Bush/Zionist regime. I am confident tom007's relative is receiving the best care available. It remains a criminal shame that such care is required.

Supporters of Bush and the Iraq war for Israel and oil are traitors to America and they hate American troops.

wbales  posted on  2007-06-04   22:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: wbales (#25) (Edited)

. It remains a criminal shame that such care is required.

Ditto.

I am close to being sick on the whole thing. Physically sick.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-05   0:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wbales (#23)

here is a God and a Just God, Bush and his Zionist buddies shall forever burn in hell.

yeh.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-05   0:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: tom007 (#0)

my god, tom, I'm so very very sorry.

I've been against this war since before it started, have marched and demonstrated and witnessed aginst it, but it's all been academic before now.

I didn't know anyone who was there.

suddenly a nephew of someone I don't really know but sorta do has been hurt, and it's like a time-out. we've been angry, been sarcastic, been jaded, even felt superior in our *wisdom* - and suddenly there's a face and a body attached to the whole mess.

I've always hated calling them "troops", so impersonal. your nephew isn't a troop, he's a person, a kid.

for a moment I want to let go of the anger and the sarcasm and try to understand the pain this war is inflicting. that's all I can do for you, that and pray for your nephew and all his family and friends, the people that love him.

tonight as I go to sleep I'll pray like crazy for all of you. tomorrow I'll be angry again. hang in there.

kiki  posted on  2007-06-05   1:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: kiki, tom007 (#28)

suddenly a nephew of someone I don't really know but sorta do has been hurt, and it's like a time-out. we've been angry, been sarcastic, been jaded, even felt superior in our *wisdom* - and suddenly there's a face and a body attached to the whole mess.

I've always hated calling them "troops", so impersonal. your nephew isn't a troop, he's a person, a kid.

So well said.

This topic of tom's nephew has been on my mind a lot, I've been thinking about it on a regular basis, and then I think how many thousands of similar cases are there out there, how much suffering these people and their families will endure for years. It's incomprehensible to me, and gives me a whole new outlook on those who beat the war drums.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-05   2:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: tom007 (#0)

She asked one lady on Friday and she replied; "Twelve Months." At least Adam is not in the shape of the husband of a woman who also sits in the waiting room. This woman and her husband have a 3 year old and 10 month old. The kids are with them in the hospital waiting room and visiting room. His burns are worse than Adam's burns plus he has lost both of his arms at the shoulder.

Dear God...

And all for lies heaped upon more lies. The decideror and his entire cabal need to be held to account alright - with the same fate as Iraq's ousted dictator met!

As many have mentioned, we owe Tom a big thank you for having the presence of mind to bring us these updates. As Kiki so well stated, this has for the first time for many of us brought a sense of actually "knowing" one of the casualties of this war.

This illegal war is costing us dearly in several ways.
The most important is obviously the cost in human suffering. These young men and women and their families have had their lives wrecked - and it will take a long time to put the shattered pieces back together.
It is also costing everyone in the US in the true sense of the word "cost" - expense. As of the time I write this, we have spent $431,624,868,560 on this war. And for anyone that has not seen how quickly that expense is escalating, you should check out this site. It is simply mind bending. I doubt if that is factoring in the cost of the medical care for the wounded such as Tom's nephew. And I'm quite sure it's not factoring in the future cost of those who will be permanently disabled - many to the point of never being able to do any productive work. The true expense of this wretched mess will easily run into the trillions, and be a burden upon us for many generations to come.
Another way it's costing the entire nation is in our world standing. Several months ago I met a man from Turkey that travels the world on business. We had the opportunity to visit at length. He told me that before the US started the war in Iraq, most other countries actually liked the US; and of even the ones that didn't, we were at least respected. But since the invasion of Iraq, we are hated the world over, and have lost all respect.
We have practically guaranteed that we have created more "terrorists" than ever existed in history, and will face problems on the world stage for a long time to come.

I hang my head in shame. We all should, if for no other reason than to have allowed and continuing to allow this evil cabal to wreak carnage upon the world stage. Alas, in small numbers we can do little about it. And the recent Memorial weekend brought to light to me just how few there are that really care. Our small town was literally covered in American flags (which I'd venture to guess the majority of were made in China) as if to say "I'm proud to be an American". Just about made me want to puke...

If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein

innieway  posted on  2007-06-05   7:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Diana (#29)

gives me a whole new outlook on those who beat the war drums.

How many of these fit that outlook?
abhorrence, abomination, acrimony, animosity, antagonism, antipathy, bitterness, contempt, detestation, disgust, enmity, execration, hatred, horror, hostility, ignominy, invidiousness, loathing, malevolence, malice, rancor, repugnance, repulsion, revulsion, scorn, spite, venom

For me, they ALL do - and even MORESO when the word extreme is added in front...

If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein

innieway  posted on  2007-06-05   7:22:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Diana (#29)

gives me a whole new outlook on those who beat the war drums.

exactly Diana. for bush, cheney & co. there is immense profit to be made. if people get hurt or die, that's a small price to pay for the business of war. a small price for those who don't pay it. when they sing their 911 song, it makes me sick - those deaths were important because they provided a means to an end.

it's a stark difference - they want to remind us always of the 911 deaths, and they would rather we didn't think about the iraq/afghanistan deaths. some are useful to them, others not so useful. none are meaningful in a human way.

as for the drum beaters outside the war profiteer circle, I have no idea. there's no personal financial gain for them - are they that fooled or do they just like war?

kiki  posted on  2007-06-06   0:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: innieway (#30)

outstanding post, innie.

christine  posted on  2007-06-06   1:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: tom007 (#0)

I'm so sorry......this is so sad.

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-06   1:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Diana, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Kamala, All (#29)

The impact on this generation of vets and their families is going to be horrible. The vets minds are screwed up for life, their families won't know them, or be able to understand them. The VA will instantly walk away from them, as we send billions to countries who don't deserve anything, let alone at the expense of the vets.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-06-06   1:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: PercyDovetonsils, diana, christine, (#34)

Well he is alive and may be healed in some amount of time. I thought his butt muscles being removed were a sentence in a wheelchair but my manager of our store told me no, the muscles can be regenerated.

He worked on a hospital ship, the Repose, in the Vietnam war.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-06   1:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: innieway (#30) (Edited)

Our small town was literally covered in American flags (which I'd venture to guess the majority of were made in China) as if to say "I'm proud to be an American". Just about made me want to puke...

Small town folks are kept in a bubble. Their small town newspapers feed them syndicated bilge and their local cable outlet serves up Fox News. They and their naive patriotism are being preyed upon by the Neocon cabal as surely as Iraq is being preyed upon by rural America's benighted sons and daughters (most of whom have been economically press-ganged into becoming expendable cannon fodder for the MIC). Small town Americans and the Iraqis they mindlessly kill have a common enemy, but only one side of this waste of a war (so far) knows it.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-06-06   1:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Arator (#37)

All the neocon filth care about is profits and political positioning for resource control from this war and that their precious kids do not bleed in it.

Disgusting, isn't it?

Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-06-06   1:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Arator (#37)

Small town folks are kept in a bubble

Yes. And Big Town folks are kept in a little larger bubble.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-06   1:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: tom007 (#39) (Edited)

Yes. And Big Town folks are kept in a little larger bubble.

Very true. When I visit my parents in small town Kansas, though, I am shocked by the misinformation bubble they live in. It's like we now live in different worlds, worlds that are hard to bridge. Did I mention that they are avid Fox News fans and watch O'Reilly nightly? Oh, and the local paper that weekend featured a column by Michael Reagan that had the gall to charge those exposing the shameless Pentagon propaganda re: Tillman and Lynch with "not supporting the troops"?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-06-06   1:35:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: tom007 (#39)

The Wayne Morse Federal building, the second one built in Eugene has the chimp's name on the cornerstone brass Plaque that is six inches high, much larger then anything else on it.

The plaque has been hammered on repetedly by people stopping for a whack and leaving before the security comes. Over and over and over. Poor Jorge's little little little name is almost pressed flat it is dented up so badly.

My my.

Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2007-06-06   1:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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