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Title: Did Pirates Really Say "Arrrr"?
Source: Slate.com
URL Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2167567/
Published: Jun 5, 2007
Author: Christopher Bonanos
Post Date: 2007-06-05 17:30:59 by Indrid Cold
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Johnny Depp took home the best performance award at Sunday's MTV Movie Awards, for his role as Jack Sparrow in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. (The third installment of the series topped the weekend box-office tallies again this past weekend, pulling in $43.2 million.) Depp's character famously speaks in a dissolute London mumble inspired by Keith Richards. But virtually all his crewmen hew to the classic movie-pirate patois, full of growled consonants and shiver-me-timbers slang. Wait, did pirates really say "arrrrr"?

Probably not. Both that phrase and the accent that goes with it are strictly Hollywood. They originated with Robert Newton, the actor who played Long John Silver in the movies and on TV through much of the 1950s. Newton was from Dorset, in the Cotswolds district of southwest England, and the regional accent he brought to the movies included a rolled "r." Though Dorset may well have produced its share of sailors, they were hardly the only pirates out there; most seamen—and especially the outlaws on pirate vessels—were people who struck out from oppressed nations, like Scotland and Ireland, to start over on the high seas.

So, was there a typical pirate accent at all? Among British outlaws, yes: The onboard speech was most likely underclass British sailor with extra curse words, augmented with a polyglot slang of French, Italian, Spanish, and Dutch picked up around the trade routes. "Arrrrr" is strictly fiction, as are a number of the other affiliated signifiers: Nobody ever walked the plank, and nobody has ever discovered an actual pirate treasure map. On the myth-confirming side, pirates were known to dress in loose clothing, guzzle rum and smash the empty bottles, and chase busty wenches through Caribbean ports.


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#1. To: Indrid Cold (#0)

chase busty wenches

Any time you can chase wenches, so much the better.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-05   18:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

Ooyy! last one out, grab ye gold..

http://boingboing.net/2006/09/16/jewish_pirates_of_th.html

Jewish Pirates of the Caribbean

A forthcoming, untitled book by historian Ed Kritzler argues that many of the "Spanish" pirates of the Caribbean were in fact Ladino-speaking Sephardic Jews who took to the seas to flee/avenge the Inquisition.

While some Jews, like Samuel Pallache, took up piracy in part to help make a better life for expelled Spanish Jews, Kritzler said others were motivated by revenge for the Inquisition.

One such pirate was Moses Cohen Henriques, who helped plan one of history's largest heists against Spain. In 1628, Henriques set sail with Dutch West India Co. Admiral Piet Hein, whose own hatred of Spain was fueled by four years spent as a galley slave aboard a Spanish ship. Henriques and Hein boarded Spanish ships off Cuba and seized shipments of New World gold and silver worth in today's dollars about the same as Disney's total box office for "Dead Man's Chest."

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-06-05   19:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Indrid Cold (#0)

On the myth-confirming side, pirates were known to dress in loose clothing, guzzle rum and smash the empty bottles, and chase busty wenches through Caribbean ports.

I guess the essentials are still true.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-06-05   22:25:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3)

We used to get away with that shit too, before Reagan.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-06-05   22:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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