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Title: Immigration Bill Fails Crucial Test Vote; stunning setback that could spell its defeat for the year...
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... /06/07/national/w180257D23.DTL
Published: Jun 7, 2007
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2007-06-07 21:08:24 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 434
Comments: 22

(06-07) 18:05 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

A broad immigration bill to legalize millions of people in the U.S. unlawfully failed a crucial test vote Thursday, a stunning setback that could spell its defeat for the year.

The vote was 45-50 against limiting debate on the bill, 15 short of the 60 that the bill's supporters needed to prevail. Most Republicans voted to block Democrats' efforts to bring the bill to a final vote.

The legislation, which had been endorsed by President Bush, would tighten borders, institute a new system to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers in addition to giving up to 12 million illegal immigrants a pathway to legal status.

Conceived by an improbable coalition that nicknamed the deal a "grand bargain," the measure exposed deep rifts within both parties and is loathed by most GOP conservatives.

Senate Majority Harry Reid, D-Nev., who had made no secret of his distaste for parts of the bill, said earlier he would move on to other matters if the immigration measure's supporters didn't get 60 votes Thursday night.

The defeat set off a bitter round of partisan recriminations, with Democrats and Republicans each accusing the other of killing it.

Most Republicans voted against ending debate, saying they needed more time to make the bill tougher with tighter border security measures and a more arduous legalization process for unlawful immigrants.

All but a handful of Democrats supported the move, but they, too, were holding their noses at provisions of the bill. Many of them argued it makes second-class citizens of a new crop of temporary workers and rips apart families by prioritizing employability over blood ties in future immigration.

Still, they had argued that the measure, on balance, was worth advancing.

"We can all find different aspects of this legislation that we differ with," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, the leading Democratic architect of the bill.

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#2. To: Brian S (#0)

They'll vote on it in the dead of night on July 04 when the rest of America is celebrating.

Its not dead yet. It'll come back again and again.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-07   21:16:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mirage (#2)

Its not dead yet. It'll come back again and again.

for sure

intotheabyss  posted on  2007-06-07   21:19:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: intotheabyss (#3)

Its not dead yet. It'll come back again and again.

for sure

Night (Congress) of the Living Dead.

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-07   21:39:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Calamity (#8)

They pulled the bill off the floor indefinitely. They will bring it back after they and the lobbyists and La Razzzzzzzzzzzzzzzza succeed in buying of frightening enough senators.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-07   21:42:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

They pulled the bill off the floor indefinitely. They will bring it back after they and the lobbyists and La Razzzzzzzzzzzzzzzza succeed in buying of frightening enough senators.

From what I'm hearing and reading, it is pretty much a 'dead duck' until after the 2008 elections.

Even if the Senate should cobble something together, it hasn't a 'hope in hell' in the House.

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-07   22:12:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#12)

Let's see what Bush can do via executive orders, secret findings and active non-enforcement of existing laws.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-07   22:19:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#13)

Let's see what Bush can do via executive orders, secret findings and active non-enforcement of existing laws

At that point, he loses nearly every bit of support he has remaining in Congress and impeachment will indeed be his main priority in his final days.

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-07   22:35:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Brian S, all (#14)

So where does this bill go? Will they resuscitate it w/pork and bring it back as they did NAFTA/GATT? I'm thinking yes. Bush wants this every bit as much as war.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-08   9:31:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull (#17) (Edited)

Will they resuscitate it w/pork and bring it back as they did NAFTA/GATT?

Right after the next election. (If not sooner).

noone222  posted on  2007-06-09   6:46:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: noone222 (#19)

The current law calls for the building of a 700 mile fence. The abandoned bill had half of that left. Does this mean that they are going to proceed with the 700 mile fence now? I don't think so. Like with the 1986 amnesty law, which has serious penalty for employers hiring illegals and provides for the deportation of illegals, the prez will refuse to enforce it. And, why should he? He's the freaking Dee Cider and no one tells him how to run the country.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-09 06:51:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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