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Title: Dobson endorsed sermon blaming "lesbian sex" for God's "abandonment" of America, justifying destruction of a U.S. city by God
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Media Matters
URL Source: http://mediamatters.org/items/200706070007
Published: Jun 7, 2007
Author: James Dobson
Post Date: 2007-06-07 21:24:32 by Zipporah
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Views: 349
Comments: 22
Download this clip here On the June 4 edition of his Focus on the Family radio show, Focus on the Family founder and chairman James C. Dobson broadcast a sermon by John MacArthur, pastor of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, titled "A Nation Abandoned by God." In the sermon, MacArthur said America had forsaken God and engendered the "wrath of abandonment" as a result. MacArthur declared: "You know a society has been abandoned by God when it celebrates lesbian sex." MacArthur further argued that as a result of America's abandonment, the destruction of a major U.S. city "could happen" and that "God would be just in any calamity he brought upon us." According to Dobson's co-host, John Fuller, MacArthur's sermon was originally delivered on the National Day of Prayer, an observance established by Congress to encourage ecumenical prayer. The National Day of Prayer Task Force operates out of the offices of Focus on the Family in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and is chaired by Dobson's wife, Shirley Dobson. Dobson endorsed the content of MacArthur's sermon in his introduction of the broadcast. Dobson stated: DOBSON: Some of our listeners are not going to agree with what he [MacArthur] has to say, but it's going to make you think, and it's also going to be somewhat disturbing. And I happen to agree with what John MacArthur was saying on this day, and I want to thank him and his team and Woodman Valley Chapel for allowing us to share this message. It needs to be heard, especially at this time in our nation. In his sermon, MacArthur cataloged the symptoms of what he called America's "abandonment" by God and warned of dire consequences: MacARTHUR: I don't believe we're waiting for God's wrath in this society. We haven't had a massive calamity such as the destruction of an entire city. We certainly don't want that to happen -- pray that does not happen -- but it could happen. And God would be just in any calamity that he brought upon us. We have not entered into eschatological wrath; that comes in the end times. We are experiencing -- all of us do -- consequential wrath of sin. But this massive concept of the wrath of abandonment, I'm convinced, is now at work in our society. We like to talk about the fact that America was founded on Christian principles, God was at the center of it, and all of that -- whatever it might have been in our founding, it's no longer the way it is, and I want to show you how you know that has happened. [...] MacARTHUR: The first thing that happens in a nation when it has been abandoned by God is a sexual revolution. Moral sexual perversion, pornographic desire describes the general character of the culture. You can't even count how many million pornographic websites there are. When a society is abandoned by God, it operates out of its own perverse sexual passion without restraint. You can go back to the '60s and the sexual revolution of the flower children, or Hugh Hefner and the Playboy world, and it has gone like a flood since then. [...] MacARTHUR: So the first thing that you look for in a society if you're trying to discern whether God has abandoned that society is whether or not that society has gone through a sexual revolution so that illicit sex, adultery, every form of immorality is accepted as normal in that society. And we're there. The second step in the progression, [Romans, chapter 1] verse 26: "God gave them over not just to passions that are explicable," because they're men and women, "but to inexplicable, degrading passions. For their women exchange the natural function for that which is unnatural." You know a society has been abandoned by God when it celebrates lesbian sex. God has given them over -- gross affections, unnatural, unthinkable. So you follow a sexual revolution with a homosexual revolution. And homosexuality becomes normalized. [...] MacARTHUR: The amazing thing of it is this, verse 27: "The men abandoning the natural function of the women, burning in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts, and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error." Right into this wrath of abandonment comes the wrath -- the consequential wrath. And even though it generates venereal disease and AIDS, they keep doing it. MacArthur and his Grace Community Church were sued for clergy malpractice in 1985 by Walter and Maria Nally after their son, a church member, killed himself. Kenneth Nally was 24 when he committed suicide in 1979. According to the Nallys' lawsuit, MacArthur discouraged their son from seeking outside help and worsened his suicidal tendencies by telling him his depression was the product of sinful behavior. Though the lawsuit was ultimately thrown out of court, MacArthur pledged to reform his counselor training programs.
Poster Comment: Idiots.. lets see it's lesbian sex and NOT torture or the lies that led us to war nor the millions upon millions of dead Iraqis ..these people are nuts IMO
Dobson endorsed sermon blaming "lesbian sex" for God's "abandonment" of America, justifying destruction of a U.S. city by God
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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)
Took the words right out of my mouth...it is the brutality we are visiting upon the people of the Middle East, especially their children; that will bring G-d's wrath down upon this country. Frankly; I don't think it's long in coming...
fukkers
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
They're disgusting IMO..
God could think of a lot more reasons than lesbians to extinguish the USA...LMAO. In fact, He could think of a reason to extinguish all of us if He wanted to which is the reason for the Cross. He doesn't work that way anymore I'm sorry to tell Dobson.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition These are some low life scum.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition .. well these people believe that the US is blessed because this country was based on Christian principles.. and that may be true but it's not lesbian sex that will bring this nation to it's knees.. so to speak
Has he read Lynne Cheney's book yet?
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
.. it's ironic.. that evangelical 'christians' are the very ones that criticize the Catholic church for heeding and listening only to a priest and the Pope .. seeing it as them as intermediaries between them and God and say that the Catholic church interprets the bible for them.. but will drink up this muck .. they worship these preachers and hang on every word.. spoken and written .. and do the very thing they criticize the Catholic church for.. the ignore the obvious.. hypocritical at best.
..excellent point ..
It takes a Village. One at at a time.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
yes, he does, he just doesn't want to be in the city when it happens. it would do for his sex-obsessed ranting what 911 did for bush's war dreams. he knows, he tried. there was no sex before the 60s except the proper religious making-babies kind, I guess. I will admit some things are more out in the open now, but they existed before, and god knew. god doesn't get his news from magazines and tv, I wouldn't imagine. why are these religious people so obsessed with other people's sex lives? I would have thought war was a much larger issue of morality.
Lesbian sex bump.
Can I watch? (I can't believe it took 13 posts for someone to say that...good thing I was here!)
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
Absolutely...and as a proper Southern lady will tell you; such a revolting act is initiated twice a month, in the proper missionary position, and with the LIGHTS OUT, of course...lest the sight of your partner's naughty bits set inappropriate parts of your own body to a-tinglin'...
Can I watch? (I can't believe it took 13 posts for someone to say that...good thing I was here!) No kidding. Where's the quality control here? Dobson wrote some decent books on raising kids, but this stuff is just nuts. But the republican party seems to be the party of nuts, these days.
there is lesbian sex in america? im afriad im goingot have to see some evidence of this before i make any comments on the article :)
Jesus had alot to say about self-righteous pharisees like Dobson. I don't think he mentioned lesbians even once.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Did someone say Village????? The benefits of education and of useful knowledge, generally diffused through a community, are essential to the preservation of a free government. - Sam Houston
ROFL!! Let's see; there's Jeff Gannon, Tony Snow, Condi, Gonzo, Wolfowitz, and MC Rove
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
diversion, diversion, diversion. get the deluded goobers to focus on homosexuality..that pressing issue. dobson is of the same ilk as pat robertson and hagee.
lol
People like Dobson are the reason the GOP has gone completely off the rails since the 80s. The party is now made up of people who feel COMFORTABLE catering to these loonies. It's sort of a self-censoring function that keeps sane, intelligent people OUT. Just try finding a Republican who will condemn this lunacy...McCain said it one time, and was forced to publicly humiliate himself apologizing to Falwell. Imagine if a political party was as beholden to the Scientologists. Every time Tom Cruise jumped up and down on Oprah's couch or started telling people he knows more about psychiatry than they do or whatever, the party leaders would have to applaud. That's what today's GOP is like. As we know, behind the scenes, they're laughing at these morons, but the fact is, to win in local and state elections, you have to at least pretend you believe this crap.
Idiots.. lets see it's lesbian sex and NOT torture or the lies that led us to war nor the millions upon millions of dead Iraqis ..these people are nuts IMO
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#2. To: Zipporah (#0)
discouraged their son from seeking outside help and worsened his suicidal tendencies by telling him his depression was the product of sinful behavior.
#3. To: who knows what evil (#1)
#4. To: Zipporah (#0)
#5. To: angle (#2)
discouraged their son from seeking outside help and worsened his suicidal tendencies by telling him his depression was the product of sinful behavior
#6. To: IndieTX (#4)
#7. To: Zipporah (#0)
#8. To: angle (#2)
fukkers
#9. To: robin (#7)
Has he read Lynne Cheney's book yet?
#10. To: Zipporah (#0)
#11. To: Zipporah (#0)
We haven't had a massive calamity such as the destruction of an entire city. We certainly don't want that to happen
You can't even count how many million pornographic websites there are.
You can go back to the '60s and the sexual revolution of the flower children, or Hugh Hefner and the Playboy world, and it has gone like a flood since then.
#12. To: Zipporah (#0)
Idiot.
#13. To: lodwick (#12)
Lesbian sex bump.
#14. To: kiki (#11)
there was no sex before the 60s except the proper religious making-babies kind, I guess.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#15. To: orangedog (#13)
Lesbian sex bump.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
#16. To: Zipporah (#0)
Dobson endorsed sermon blaming "lesbian sex" for God's "abandonment" of America
#17. To: Zipporah (#0)
#18. To: Calamity (#10)
It takes a Village.
#19. To: Sam Houston (#18)
#20. To: Zipporah (#0)
#21. To: Calamity (#19)
Condi,
#22. To: Zipporah (#0)
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