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Title: Banned as well!
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Published: Jun 9, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-06-09 14:59:16 by farmfriend
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Views: 15629
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Well it looks like I have been banned from LP as well. No warning. I broke no rules either. The only thing I can figure is that I was banned for posting here.

OK Goldi, you picked the fight. It's on.

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#179. To: Eoghan (#169)

No, it not...it's true. Most, IMO, is about 60 to 75%. If false, the Lobby would not own congress, the press and that Television you're so enthralled with.

Is that supposed to prove that 'international Jewry" functions like the Borg, ready to call upon Jews worldwide regardless of their station in life to push the Jewish agenda?

Give me a break.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: JCHarris (#168)

Do you mean the two-headed coin?

Exactly.

Heads, I win: Tails, You lose.

If you don't mind, in what part of the world do you reside?

I, and several of us here are in the CenTex area, FYI.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-09   19:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Mister Clean (#176)

I'm under the impression that this site isn't used to people with my point of view judging by the hysterical reactions I've gotten.

I'm glad to discuss anything but some people seem determined to simply engage in name calling.

Mister Clean

From what I have seen from you for the past 6 months.

IMNSHO

You are where many of us were several years ago.

I went through it. FL went through it. Gojira Tiberius Konig went through it. Add925 went through it. Others sealed their minds.

Disillusionment is painful.

We all know that.

Now lets shake hands and continue tomorrow.

OK ?

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Mister Clean (#176)

I'm glad to discuss anything but some people seem determined to simply engage in name calling.

I'm still waiting for you to discuss the ten posts I wrote to you.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-09   19:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: JCHarris (#181)

Now lets shake hands and continue tomorrow.

OK ?

Gee, I thought you put me on bozo.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: FormerLurker (#178)

Buckeroo asked her if that was what was bugging her, and she gave him a one week timeout for it.

Yep, could explain it.. LOL

Sally is too old for menopause....

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: Mister Clean (#179) (Edited)

regardless of their station in life

No, has nothing to do with beliefs systems or income...it's an Ideology, just like Communism was less of a gov't but more a Movement of utopia. Flawed logic, flawed human beings.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-06-09   19:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Mister Clean (#161)

Richard1961 responds to the information below provided by Eoghan and JCHarris (which incidentally JC said that he posted same on LP) and that is reason, in your mind, to deem Freedom4um a jew hating circus? That's ridiculous.

International Jewry's Megaphone software download...

wiki

The Megaphone desktop tool is a Microsoft Windows application distributed by the World Union of Jewish Students and other pro-Israel organizations, through the http://Giyus.org website.

Megaphone, released on July 19, 2006, delivers real-time alerts about key articles, videos, blogs, and surveys to community members. Members can easily voice their opinions and work together to support Israel on the public opinion front. The tool has been endorsed by Amir Gissin, head of the Public Affairs Department of the Foreign Ministry of Israel. [1]

Megaphone is a pro-Israeli lobbying tool used to automate the function of online petitioning where the trivialities of searching for Israel/ME debates are minimised, effectively increasing the efficiency of the user in posting Pro- Israeli messages with the minimum of fuss.

Some might argue that it is a propoganda tool used to skew Global opinion, especially where some forums publicly air messages that are strongly in favour of the Israeli position. Others feel that is stifles free speech by purposefully obstructing the opinions of others through spamming tactics.[2]

At the end of the day, it is a powerful lobbying tool used to express the opinion of Israel to good effect, and it shows the limitless boundaries that most media outlets and opposing organisations have yet failed to capitalise on.

christine  posted on  2007-06-09   19:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Mister Clean (#183)

Gee, I thought you put me on bozo.

Mister Clean

Keep it up !

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: PercyDovetonsils (#182)

I'm still waiting for you to discuss the ten posts I wrote to you.

Sorry, I'm just not in the mood to go read a website right now but I will at some point.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: FormerLurker, farmfriend, christine, Zipporah, ladies here (#178)

Menopause is no defense...ducking for any incoming on this one.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-09   19:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Mister Clean, Eoghan (#179)

Is that supposed to prove that 'international Jewry" functions like the Borg, ready to call upon Jews worldwide regardless of their station in life to push the Jewish agenda?

I think you miss the point. There's a difference between a Jew and a Zionist.

A Jew is one that follows the Jewish religion, where a Zionist is one that supports Israel, right or wrong. A Zionist cares nothing about America, but is only concerned with the welfare of the Israeli government.

In fact, there is some VERY interesting history on all this, where some here would be better to explain it than me.

I don't think people here have a problem with Jews, but with Zionists.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-09   19:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: Mister Clean (#188)

Ah, it makes you look kinda bad if you don't, but post here for an hour on the subject. Just FWIW.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-09   19:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: Eoghan (#185)

No, has nothing to do with beliefs systems or income...it's an Ideology, just like Communism was let of a gov't but more a Movement of utopia. Flawed logic, flawed human beings.

None of the Jews I've known had any Borg-like alliegance to an "international Jewry" collective.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:23:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: FormerLurker (#190)

I don't think people here have a problem with Jews, but with Zionists.

Post #51 didn't make a distinction.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Mister Clean (#192)

Let's try this, since you don't want to "visit the website"....

From their site:

Judaism And Zionism Are Not The Same Thing We would like to take a few minutes of your time to prevent you from making a terrible mistake that may have disastrous results for many.

You have always without a doubt heard and read much about the political crises in the Middle East in which the State of Israel plays a central role. This is, in fact, an ongoing series of crises with potential to bring the greatest misfortune on the entire world. Tragically many believe that Zionism and Judaism are identical. Thus they conclude that the entire Jewish people is responsible for the actions of the Zionist government and the world crises which emanates from it. This is a Grave Error!

The truth is that the Jewish faith and Zionism are two very different philosophies. They are as opposite as day and night. The Jewish people have existed for thousands of years. In their two thousand years of Divinely decreed exile no Jew ever sought to end this exile and establish independent political sovereignty anywhere. The people's sole purpose was the study and fulfillment of the Divine commandments of the Torah.

The Zionist movement created the Israeli state. The latter is a persuasion less than one hundred years old. Its essential goal was and is to change the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement. From Zionism's inception the spiritual leaders of the Jewish people stood in staunch opposition to it.

To this day Torah Jewry remains forever loyal to its faith. Zionists want the world to believe that they are the representatives of the entire Jewish people. This is false! The Jewish people never chose them as their leaders.

The Zionists have deceived many well meaning Jewish people via terror, trickery and false propaganda. They have at their disposal the use of a nearly universally subservient media. Whoever attempts to criticize them puts his livelihood and, at times, his very life in danger.

However, despite the media blackout and easy resort to terror the simple truth remains unrefuted and irrefutable: ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!

The Creator gave us the Holy Land thousands of years ago. Yet, when we sinned, He took it away and sent us into exile. Since that time our task is to wait for Him to send the Messiah. At that time, the Creator alone, without any human being lifting a hand or saying a word, will bring us together and take us out of exile. He will likewise establish universal peace among all mankind and all will serve Him in good will.

Some religious Jews, confused by Zionist propaganda quote Biblical verses that state that G-d gave the children of Israel the Holy Land. They overlook, unfortunately, those verses which say that He took it away due to our sins. They further ignore those prophecies which explicitly describe the last exile's conclusion as a Divine, not a human process.

The Creator has commanded every Jew to follow the ways of peace and to be loyal to the country where he lives.

Torah true Jewry waits patiently for the Messianic redemption. They have nothing to do with any kind of pseudo "Jewish State" and its aggressions against other peoples. They have a deep sympathy for the plight of the Palestinians who have suffered the most from Zionism's false teachings and barbaric actions. The Zionist state is not a Jewish state. The Zionists alone are the only ones responsible for their actions. Authentic Jewry has and will continue to oppose the very existence of this blasphemous state.

May all mankind witness the true redemption.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-09   19:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: JCHarris (#184) (Edited)

Sally is too old for menopause....

I think she just likes the sort of people that want to nuke Iran, and let's them get away with anything they want.

If someone is effectively negating their wild-assed comments filled with hate, then Goldi sees that person as a threat.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-09   19:26:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: PercyDovetonsils (#191)

Ah, it makes you look kinda bad if you don't, but post here for an hour on the subject. Just FWIW.

The people on that site look like an interesting sect.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: farmfriend (#139)

Somethings up at LP and with Goldi, that's for sure.

menopause?

Please don't go there ever again.

This is not fair commentary or criticism in my view, and it offends me.

I don't like it when someone says this to the women I love or those I don't.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-09   19:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Mister Clean (#192)

I shall bring more.....from them:

OUR MISSION Judaism is the faith of the Jewish people. It is predicated upon G-d's existence and His revelation at Sinai.

At Sinai, in the presence of the assembled multitudes of Jews, recently released via Divine miracles from Egypt, the Creator revealed His Torah to the nation.

This Torah contains the basic doctrines of our faith, Divine commandments and the narrative of the earliest Jewish and general human encounter with G-d.

Throughout the centuries Jews pledged their assent to this Torah even when their lives were at stake. They maintained this loyalty with almost unanimous allegiance until the dawn of the modern age. In the three hundred - odd years since the so - called Enlightenment began, Jews and Gentiles throughout European civilization have been losing many souls to its evil clutches.

Today unfortunately there are many Jews who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of, and fail to, practice the basics of their faith. This is a great tragedy for many reasons. Perhaps paramount among them is the falsification of Judaism that results when those unaware of its basic assumptions speak to the general public.

It behooves all Jews loyal to their faith to proclaim to the world the truths of Judaism in as lucid a manner as possible.

Neturei Karta International is dedicated to the propagation and clarification of Torah Judaism.

Its only loyalty is to G-d and His revelation.

One of the basics of Judaism is that we are a people in exile due to Divine decree.

Accordingly, we are opposed to the ideology of Zionism, a recent innovation, which seeks to force the end of exile. Our banishment from the Holy Land will end miraculously at a time when all mankind will unite in the brotherly service of the Creator.

In addition to condemning the central heresy of Zionism, we also reject its policy of aggression against all peoples. Today this cruelty manifests itself primarily in the brutal treatment of the Palestinian people. We proclaim that this inhuman policy is in violation of the Torah.

NKI seeks peace and reconciliation with all peoples and nations. This is especially needed in our relations towards the Islamic world where Zionism has for 53 years done so much to ruin Jewish - Muslim understanding.

We welcome the assistance of all men of good will and stand ready to assist all whose agenda coincides with ours.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-09   19:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Mister Clean (#179)

Is that supposed to prove that 'international Jewry" functions like the Borg, ready to call upon Jews worldwide regardless of their station in life to push the Jewish agenda?

Give me a break.

Mister Clean

In my experience...and it is considerable....major cities and minor hamlets....the answer is...

YES !

( or did I imagine all the JDL and UJA banners across many many streets in NYC and the thousands on parade for m-o-n-e-y- for die Heimat and the rabbis all strong-arming the businessmen for tens and hundreds of thousands $$ and more each? )

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: PercyDovetonsils (#194)

The truth is that the Jewish faith and Zionism are two very different philosophies.

I get it but post #51 didn't make that distinction rather it lumped all Jews into some sinister "international Jewry" that only looks out for itself.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-09   19:28:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Mister Clean (#196)

They look exactly like any other Chassidm.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-09   19:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: richard9151 (#51)

Thank you both. This is the type of detail that needs to get out so that people can begin to see how International Jewry encompasses nearly all Jews, and how they all work to the same goals.

I forget what such worker ant/Jews are called (Surium?), but some of the info posted about the Mossad details how so-called ordinary Jews are ALWAYS on call to be used as needed.

And still people do not get it..... Oh well.

C'mon richard, do you really think that most of the world's Jews are Zionists and are "on-call" for action?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-09   19:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Mister Clean (#200)

Well, I think people have answered that for you. Time to move on here, and learn.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-09   19:29:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: lodwick, zipporah, christine, 4um ladies (#189)

Menopause is no defense...

Relief from those nasty hot flashes is just a click away.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-06-09   19:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: lodwick (#189)

Menopause is no defense...

It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-09   19:30:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: FormerLurker (#159)

I think the ones that have caused us BOTH problems are the following;

I am in complete agreement with this.

Happy and scrivener and of late at least, liberator, were a joy.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: who knows what evil (#204)

wow that would be nice..... that looks cool :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-09   19:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: HOUNDDAWG (#197)

This is not fair commentary or criticism in my view, and it offends me.

Excuse me? Care to explain that?

It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-09   19:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: who knows what evil (#204)

Relief from those nasty hot flashes is just a click away.

That was funny....true and still funny!

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: farmfriend (#205)

Menopause is no defense...

Ive tried that it doesnt work.. :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-09   19:32:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: FormerLurker, richard9151 (#202)

C'mon richard, do you really think that most of the world's Jews are Zionists and are "on-call" for action?

Yes. Definitely. You should be a Jew and know !

The public face has nothing whatsoever to do with the private counsels.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-09   19:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: FormerLurker (#170)

I don't think Mister Clean is a paid poster. He's certainly not a BAC or a yukon.

Mr. C was very upset about the Wiki link to Megaphone...smells Israeli. BAC wouldn't touch the Jewish subjects because that wasn't his assignment or "area of expertize."

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-06-09   19:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Mister Clean (#200)

again, one poster's opinion, and the fact that he's allowed to say it here, doesn't make the entire site a jew hating circus, now does it?

christine  posted on  2007-06-09   19:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: farmfriend (#208)

This is not fair commentary or criticism in my view, and it offends me.

Excuse me? Care to explain that?

Well, it presupposes a non existent male superiority, presumably because we don't suffer the change quite the same way.

But 10 years ago I was in a most definite male menopause, and I knew long before that that the women in my life were are are much stronger than me in every way but one, and without them I wouldn't be alive today.

Women are the reason I live and love, and owe them everything.

I suspect that you do too, and possibly haven't realized that at the very least they are entitled to be spared cheap shots about the natural changes they go through just as I and other men do.

I suppose I should have Pm'd you and I apologize for this. But, others seized on the comment and it "grew like Topsy" (an old drum solo by jazz drummer Cozy Cole) and let's not forget that our gracious hosts (no need for the antiquated feminine anymore, like "actress") are women.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-09   19:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: Mister Clean (#192)

None of the Jews I've known had any Borg-like alliegance to an "international Jewry" collective.

Bahahaaahahaahaha! Mr. C...you kill me !

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-06-09   19:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: HOUNDDAWG (#214)

(no need for the antiquated feminine anymore, like "actress") are women.

um...so is farmfriend. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-06-09   19:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: HOUNDDAWG (#214) (Edited)

Excellent reply.

I feel the same way.

Wimmem rock!(and rule) our worlds.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-09   19:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: JCHarris, FormerLurker (#206)

Happy and scrivener and of late at least, liberator, were a joy.

I guess you missed the Scrivener thread attacking me and defending her buddy Byte. Happy posted that hangman's noose to me once and a snake. Everyone on that list joined in the beat me up thread in defence of Byte all because I tattled that Byte was using stolen graphix. And Scrive has made a habit of following me around the forum. Like em if you want but I'll pass.

I've been banned so it's all over with anyway.

It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-09   19:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: Eoghan, FormerLurker (#212)

Mr. C was very upset about the Wiki link to Megaphone...smells Israeli. BAC wouldn't touch the Jewish subjects because that wasn't his assignment or "area of expertize."

Mr.C acts more like a WhiteSands type when he makes nonsensical replies. And he is too quick to be an amateur.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-09   19:48:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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