Title: Banned as well! Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Jun 9, 2007 Author:me Post Date:2007-06-09 14:59:16 by farmfriend Keywords:None Views:17550 Comments:383
Well it looks like I have been banned from LP as well. No warning. I broke no rules either. The only thing I can figure is that I was banned for posting here.
Well it looks like I have been banned from LP as well. No warning. I broke no rules either. The only thing I can figure is that I was banned for posting here.
Sorry to hear that farmfriend. It looks like Goldi is purging posters like swatting flies this past week. Of course, she's banning the people that attempt to engage in rational discussions and apparently allowing the most rabid neocon attack dogs to remain, such as Byteshredder and MadDog.
Mister Clean, who isn't quite a full-fledged bot, also got banned the other day. He'd been rather calm in his discussions, but got banned for a fairly tame comment compared to what these other fanatical nutjobs have hurled at people there.
Somethings up at LP and with Goldi, that's for sure.
Mister Clean, who isn't quite a full-fledged bot, also got banned the other day. He'd been rather calm in his discussions, but got banned for a fairly tame comment compared to what these other fanatical nutjobs have hurled at people there.
No problem. I remember our discussions there, and you appeared to speak rationally and used well reasoned arguments, rather than the standard barrage of ad hominem insults many there rely upon to "make their case".
I suggest though that you take a deep breath and realize that people here see you as a potential adversary. Just lighten up a bit and take it in stride.
From what I have seen from you for the past 6 months.
IMNSHO
You are where many of us were several years ago.
I'll give you one example of where I was a few years ago...
I used to be totally against the "cashless society" believing it to be, as Alex Jones describes it, a "control grid" and privacy killer. I would preach against customer loyalty cards like the folks over at http://spychips.com.
But then I started participating in the "cashless society" and I started using those customer loyalty cards at the grocery store and guess what? Nothing bad happened! In fact, the "cashless society" has proven to be just what it's promoters claim, faster and more convenient than cash and the fact that I can track my spending through software has helped me manage money a lot more efficiently. All the scaremongering and paranoia over the "cashless society" is really just a bunch of bullshit. In fact, most scaremongering and paranoia are pure bullshit.
A few years ago I didn't really understand what America was all about but I do now. Far from being the "land of the free and home of the brave," America is the land of hype and exaggeration and the home of the peaceful consumer. EVERYTHING in America is blown completely out of proportion - the failures, successes, threats, EVERYTHING. Things are usually never as bad or as good as they're made out to be.
Hype rules the day in America whether it's the "we're #1" narcissism to the idea that Muslim radicals threaten our very survival to the idea that we'll be destroyed by global warming to the way the NFL calls the Superbowl champion the "world's" champion or how the media relentlessly hypes up the trivial.
Once you understand that America is all about money and exaggeration, you'll be as calm as David Carradine on "Kung Fu."
used to be totally against the "cashless society" believing it to be, as Alex Jones describes it, a "control grid" and privacy killer. I would preach against customer loyalty cards like the folks over at http://spychips.com.
But then I started participating in the "cashless society" and I started using those customer loyalty cards at the grocery store and guess what? Nothing bad happened! In fact, the "cashless society" has proven to be just what it's promoters claim, faster and more convenient than cash and the fact that I can track my spending through software has helped me manage money a lot more efficiently. All the scaremongering and paranoia over the "cashless society" is really just a bunch of bullshit. In fact, most scaremongering and paranoia are pure bullshit.
A few years ago I didn't really understand what America was all about but I do now. Far from being the "land of the free and home of the brave," America is the land of hype and exaggeration and the home of the peaceful consumer. EVERYTHING in America is blown completely out of proportion - the failures, successes, threats, EVERYTHING. Things are usually never as bad or as good as they're made out to be.
Hype rules the day in America whether it's the "we're #1" narcissism to the idea that Muslim radicals threaten our very survival to the idea that we'll be destroyed by global warming to the way the NFL calls the Superbowl champion the "world's" champion or how the media relentlessly hypes up the trivial.
Once you understand that America is all about money and exaggeration, you'll be as calm as David Carradine on
You may be right, but just because nothing bad is happening today doesn't mean that this technology cannot be abused at some point in the future. If we went to a cashless society, it would be much too easy for someone else to control you. I can see it now. If you get out of line, the government justs seizes your electronic funds, either legally via court order or illegally by some method of hacking. yeah, I know. the government would NEVER do anything illegally. /sarcasm.
I hear the same argument with people about On-Star. Sure, it's seems like a great thing. Who wouldn't want to be able to contact someone immedietely if they were in an accident or if they locked their keys in their car. None of the good negates the potential for abuse, such as the government using it to unknowingly track you for whatever reason they feel is justified. And the idea that you don't have anything to worry about if you've done nothing or have nothing to hide doesn't fly either. Ask those tens of thousands of completely innocent men and women on the government no-fly zone, or better yet, ask the completely innocent men or women who have the same name as those on the no fly zone.
You may call it paranoioa to think this way, but I call it being safe rather than being sorry. Was it paranoia when people were warning of the abuses that would happen if the 16th amendment were passed? From the tax situation we are in today, I would say no, it wasn't paranoia at all, it was insight. Was it paranoia when people warned of the dangers of having a federal reserve? Considering that the dollar has lost approximatley 96% of its value since the creation of the federal reserve, I would say no it wasn't paranoia at all. Everything the detractors said would happen has happened. Was it paranoia when people warned of the abuses of the social security card? Once again, no it wasn't. The SS card is now being used as a quasi-mandatory ID not only by the government but by private businesses. People are having their identity stolen on a daily basis.
I have no problem with the voluntary use of a cashless society, just as I have no problem with a voluntary on-star system. However, I have a huge problem with the government requiring me to participate in a cashless society and I will have a huge problem with the government if they attempt to make it mandatory to have an on-star type system in my vehicle. IMHO, the government has and will abuse everything it touches. It is the nature of government because government is run by man and men are either corrupt or corruptable.
You may be right, but just because nothing bad is happening today doesn't mean that this technology cannot be abused at some point in the future. If we went to a cashless society, it would be much too easy for someone else to control you. I can see it now. If you get out of line, the government justs seizes your electronic funds, either legally via court order or illegally by some method of hacking. yeah, I know. the government would NEVER do anything illegally. /sarcasm.
Unless you're keeping your money in cash somewhere, they can do that now if they wanted. The question is, why would they want to do that? I think the government's primary concern is to make sure people keep paying their taxes and engage in consumerism.
I hear the same argument with people about On-Star. Sure, it's seems like a great thing. Who wouldn't want to be able to contact someone immedietely if they were in an accident or if they locked their keys in their car. None of the good negates the potential for abuse, such as the government using it to unknowingly track you for whatever reason they feel is justified. And the idea that you don't have anything to worry about if you've done nothing or have nothing to hide doesn't fly either. Ask those tens of thousands of completely innocent men and women on the government no-fly zone, or better yet, ask the completely innocent men or women who have the same name as those on the no fly zone.
That's a fair point although I'd bet that that most on the no-fly list aren't there because they were targeted personally but because of bureaucratic mistakes, incompetence and mis-management. And keep in mind there is a procedure to remedy the situation.
You may call it paranoioa to think this way, but I call it being safe rather than being sorry. Was it paranoia when people were warning of the abuses that would happen if the 16th amendment were passed? From the tax situation we are in today, I would say no, it wasn't paranoia at all, it was insight. Was it paranoia when people warned of the dangers of having a federal reserve? Considering that the dollar has lost approximatley 96% of its value since the creation of the federal reserve, I would say no it wasn't paranoia at all. Everything the detractors said would happen has happened. Was it paranoia when people warned of the abuses of the social security card? Once again, no it wasn't. The SS card is now being used as a quasi-mandatory ID not only by the government but by private businesses. People are having their identity stolen on a daily basis.
I say the weakness of the SSN as a personal identifier is another good reason for a national ID card system.
I have no problem with the voluntary use of a cashless society, just as I have no problem with a voluntary on-star system. However, I have a huge problem with the government requiring me to participate in a cashless society and I will have a huge problem with the government if they attempt to make it mandatory to have an on-star type system in my vehicle. IMHO, the government has and will abuse everything it touches. It is the nature of government because government is run by man and men are either corrupt or corruptable.
I seriously doubt that the government will try to force America into a cashless society especially since it's private industry and average citizens leading the way. I would also say that it's more likely that a "black box" device will be mandatory in all cars, not an "OnStar" type system.