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Title: Weeds Control Without Poisons
Source: ACRES USA
URL Source: http://acresusa.com
Published: Jun 9, 2007
Author: Charles Walters
Post Date: 2007-06-09 17:59:53 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 1320
Comments: 158

Charles Walters, founder and long-time editor of ACRES USA, the monthly journal of eco-agriculture, has revised and expanded his now classic text on the secrets that weeds reveal to us about our soil. For a thorough undersanding of the conditions that produce certain weeds, you simply can't find a better source than this one -- certainly not one as entertaining, as full of anecdotes and home-spun common sense.

The book is a treasury of knowledge, exploring the workings of soil eco-systems through the findings of such giants as William A. Albrecht, C.J. Fenzau and Philip S. Callahan. It contains a lifetime of collected wisdom that teaches us how to udnerstand and thereby control the growth of countless weed species, as well as why there is an absolute necessity for a more holistic, eco-centered perspective in agricultrue today.

In Weeds, Control Without Poisons, Walters explains what fifty years of deadly chemicals have done to our soils and our bodies, demonstrating once and for all that the stuff simply doen't workl in any long-term, coomon-sense agricultural system. He goes on to tell us what will work, and he tells it with precision and clarity in a book as full of human warmth as sound soil science. Charles Walters is the author of dozens of books and thousands of articles on the technologies of eco-agriculture.

In this book learn;

What do weeds tell us about the soil?

What can you do about row-crop weeds?

Is there any role for herbicides in agriculture?


We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. Native American Proverb


FOR THE RECORD

The so-called conventional agricultural system of the United States is falling apart at the seams. Its intellectual advisers in the univesity hardly know what is going on in the countryside. Their advice has created extensive soil erosion, universal environmental contamination, and a degeneration of the health of almost every living species on this planet. Public outcry is growing in proportion to its awareness. Politicians are mocking their shared concern in order to sway votes. Legislation to curb or banish the current agricultrual system of toxic warfare on man and nature is becoming more plentiful. Caught in the middle of this political football is the farmer. One by one, his toxic crutches are being eliminated from the market. He is told that he must farm without these ''magic bullets'' which he has become so accustomed to using. This use has been sanctified by constant insistence of the USDA, land grant universities, and Extension personnel. Now, however, he is being told by the politicians that he cannot use these materials anymore, but is not being told by the lords of agriculture what to do or what to use in their place.

The farmer feels lost and frustrated. And he is lost and frustrated until he realizes that the solution to his dilemma rests with his own intuition and common sense. Farming is not a desk job nor the work of a laboratory technician. It is a natural experience. It is an understanding and appreciation for all life on this planet. It is an attitude of living, of peaceful coexistence, not an atitude of kill or be killed or of constant conflict.

The first step in builkding a system without toxic chemical war games with nature is to change your attitude. Become a farmer rather than a miner of the soil. Decide to leave the farm in a better condition when you depart than it was last year or when you started farming. Decide to accept responsibility for the health of this county, yourself, and your family.

Weeds, Control Without Poisons is an original, even though it leans on the scholarship of many in the identification of weeds. It does not pretend to have all the answers, yet it has furnished a beginning in asking the right questions. Many minor weeds still have still to be evaluated, and there can be no doubt tat answers will be forthcoming. As far as the major crop weeds are concerned, this book hints, then sledgehammers the answers into place.

Weed manuals since WWII have simply identified weeds, the implication or actual direction being that use of this or that poison is the only rational advice. Charles Walters questions this, and he has used most of his jounalistic career to gather in support for dealing with weeds without poisons. Hopefully, this little book will be a turning point away from our rush toward perdition.

Arden Andersen, author of The Anatomy of Life and Energy in Agriculture and Science in Agriculture


PREFACE

Some few years ago, I tripped to Houston, Texas and environs for the purpose of visiting a rice producer who, once upon a time, knew my old mentor, William A. Albrecht, then emeritus professor, Department of Soils, University of Missouri. This rice grower had a small plane on his farm for the purpose of monitoring his crop -- and, not least, the weeds. He had a small laboratory on his farm because he had been trained to compound things like DDT, and -- also once upoin a time -- he chest-thumped this fact to the good professor Albrecht, adding that ''this stuff works.''

Albrecht responded, 'Yes, it works today and it will probably work ten years from now.' And with that Albrecht shot a finger into the rice grower's chest. 'But ten years from now you won't know where it is!' Much of the toxic genetic chemistry spilled into agriculture over the past several decades is still out there. I know where some of it is. Richard L. Penny is an Iowa scientist who spent several years at the U.S. South Pole station. He took the biopsy specimens that revealed DDT in the fatty tissue of all the examined penguins. Appartently this toxin has established itself in the migratory food chain that travels to the South Pole and back. .....


This is an excellent book, and I recommend it for everyone that has any interest in understanding food, and how it affects our lives. There can be no doubt, after you read it, that America has been on a very dangerous path for a long time, and, it is time to correct that path, RIGHT NOW!

As an example of what this book shows; Redroot pigweed ... best possible laboratory analysis for phosphate availablility on a daily meal basis.

... quackgrass ... have herbal properties useful in treating urinary disorders. Decay systems are at fault when this weed appears. Excess aluminum also is a problem for the crop, albeit nor for quackgrass which can live with it.

And on and on through countless different weeds, using them as a teaching tool to learn what the soil is lacking, or, has to much of. Amazing the knowledge that we should be using can be this simple.....

And this book is much more than that as well. It is a look at farm life, and at OUR responsibilities, as we furnish the power behind those who grow things for us through the decisions that we make on a daily basis.

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#56. To: richard9151. farm friends here, cinnamon (#55)

When laws are passed which are intended to benefit one part of a society, i.e., the corporate farmers in this case, protecting them from competition, then nothing that is contained in the laws that are passed can be judged to be in the interests of the people of the nation. This brings into question everything that went before the passage of such laws and which lead up to the passage of such laws.

This includes toxic/chemical farming. If such was, indeed, better and more healthful than the alternatives, NO LAWS WOULD BE NECESSARY AS THE TRUTH WOULD BE ON THEIR SIDE. It is never necessary to pass laws in such cases except to hide lies and deceive people.

Man's laws generally suck.

God gave us ten.

Christ cut it down to two.

This session alone, the lege here in TX passed just under 1500 new "laws."

Do we have a problem, Houston?

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-10   11:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: HOUNDDAWG (#53)

You're saying that dioxin was negligently included in Agent Orange?

Then pray tell, what was the primary ingredient intended to defoliate Southeast Asia?

HOUNDDAWG

Negligent?

Yes, in that they did not give a single thought to the harm inflicted by inclusion of pure dioxin...

and no...

the company in Turin, Italy did it on purpose ( used partially filled, used and returned etc dioxin barrels ) to increase their profits from the contract and admitted as much.

and my "recently at least" un-researched inclination is paraquat.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   12:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: richard9151 (#54)

Daniel Boone is a good example; he lived to 89

Apples and oranges

The maximum life span of man has not increased one day in the past 10,000, or more years. It is fixed at somewhere approaching 100 ( +/-10 ) years and is based on the cell division capability, i.e. hard-wired in.

The average life expectancy is now somewhere between 50 and 76 depending largely on infant mortality (subtract the zeros and the average zooms)but also death at childbirth and a man " wearing out" by 45 or 50.

The median life span of humans from say 1400 backwards ( and some 'natural Rousseauian noble savage' areas now) is somewhere between 40 and 60 years.

Three completely different concepts and three valid concepts to be used in evaluating current benefits and trends.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   12:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: innieway, richard9151, farmfriend, lodwick, all (#55)

"food laws" given by the Creator in Scripture. I won't eat pork, rabbit, catfish, or shrimp for example

IMNSHO...

over and above some personal taboo...

the " 'food laws ' given by the Creator in Scripture" ...

are malarky as a health-related paradigm, with no substantive origin or value whatsoever, except what you choose to ascribe to them.

The smartest rabbi I have ever known, and one reputed to be the sole expert on extremely esoteric and ancient burial rites on the East Coast...

told me one afternoon sitting in his home...

after we had planted flowers from 7 AM-2 PM in 103 degree weather for the neighborhood so his tyrant of a wife would look good to the Gardening Committee....

" the 'food laws' were formulated for the uninformed masses as a tangible, felt and omnipresent physical means of eliciting daily discipline and control through taboo and proscription."

...and that's all I got to say 'bout that... F. G.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   12:58:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: richard9151, innieway, , farmfriend, lodwick, all (#55)

quit making new "laws" which PREVENT me (well not ME necessarily, but the vast majority of folks) from consuming MY/their nutrition as I/they see fit (for example the near impossibility to purchase RAW MILK; or NOT having labeling which indicates that an ingredient is genetically modified for example).

I am in total agreement with you all here.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   13:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: lodwick (#56)

Do we have a problem, Houston?

Houston, we have a problem......

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-10   13:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: JCHarris, innieway, farmfriend, lodwick (#59)

are malarky as a health-related paradigm, with no substantive origin or value whatsoever, except what you choose to ascribe to them.

I am truly sorry that you are so poorly informed.

" the 'food laws' were formulated for the uninformed masses as a tangible, felt and omnipresent physical means of eliciting daily discipline and control through taboo and proscription."

And if you truly believe this, then I am doubly sorry for you. BUT, that being said, you should try reading some of the diet books, such as Eat Right 4 Your Type, which clearly explains that pork, as a for instance, can not be eaten by anyone benefically. Or soda pop drank. There are other non-religious books which bring out such subjects as well.

Here in 4um there have been numerous discussions about the food laws and such things as pork, and the info is rather amazing when you break it all down. That being said, I doubt that the facts have changed many minds, here or elsewhere for that matter, cause in these subjects, facts do not count for much. This is an individual choice, but that being said, this I will guarentee to you; IF you do the studies necessary to learn, you will find that EVERY food law contained in the Bible is correct, scientifically.

I certainly do not expect you to accept that, but perhaps it will give you something to think about as you continue to learn with us. Or not, as the case may be, but you will find supporting evidence in other areas of your life as well; I know this for a fact. Why? Because once you begin to touch on this subject, the info just keeps flowing, and, to avoid it, YOU must make a decision to ignore and stop learning. Your choice, my friend. Make a wise one.

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-10   13:17:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: richard9151 (#62)

I'm sorry, when I think of food laws I think of Jews having two dishwashers and two refrigerators because you can't mix dairy and meat.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   13:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: farmfriend (#63)

I'm sorry, when I think of food laws I think of Jews having two dishwashers and two refrigerators because you can't mix dairy and meat.

Good grief - I had no idea.

Is that God's law, or man's?

I shouldn't be having a nicely grilled cheeseburger?

I may have to go with Paul on this one - "All things are lawful to me."

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-10   13:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: farmfriend (#63)

I'm sorry, when I think of food laws I think of Jews having two dishwashers and two refrigerators because you can't mix dairy and meat.

See, there is your first problem, thinking of the Jews and food laws together.

You should read the book, The Thirteenth Tribe, free on the internet on Bible Believers; http://www.biblebelievers.o rg.au/13trindx.htm

Then, try this quote;

``...the Idumeans (Edomites) were...made Jews...and a Turkish people (Khazars) were mainly Jews in South Russia...The main part of Jewry never was in Judea and had never come out of Judea." (H.G. Wells, The Outline of History, 3rd ed., MacMillian, 1921, p. 494).

Or, these;

"For in the lands of Gog and Magog who are a Hunnish race and call themselves Gazari there is one tribe, a very belligerent one Alexander enclosed them and they escaped and all of them profess the Jewish faith." (written by Christian Druthmar in 864)

"The Khazars and their king are all Jews." (written by Ahmad Ibn Fadlan circa 921/922)

"All of the Khazars are Jews. But they have been Judaized recently." (written by Ibn al Faqih, circa 930)

But perhaps this explains best;

"Mr Benjamin Freedman, a Jewish industrialist born in New York, wrote in the Economic Council Letter published there of October 15 1947: "These Eastern European Jews have neither a racial nor a historic connection with Palestine. Their ancestors were not inhabitants of the Promised Land. They are the direct descendants of the people of the Khazar Kingdom.. The Khazars were a non Semitic, Turko Mongolian tribe.." Mr Freedman was challenged, unwisely, by a Zionist objector...he invited his challenger to go with him to the Jewish room of the New York Public Library. There they could together examine the Jewish Encyclopedia volume I pp. 1 12, and the published works of Graetz, Dubnow, Friedlander, Raisin and many other noted Jewish historians, which, as well as other non Jewish authorities, "establish the fact beyond all possible doubt".’ (Somewhere South of Suez (1950) pp349 350)."

If you are interested, I can point you to a couple of books which trace the origins of the people of Europe back to Israel. But the Jews of today are more than 99% Khazar, and are not related in any way, manner, shape or form to Israel.

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-10   13:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: JCHarris (#57) (Edited)

Perhaps you should read this as it pretty well dispenses with the notion that dioxin was somehow included after the fact by an Italian packager.

Agent Orange was manufactured by more than a few companies and all of it was highly toxic.

None of those so named claimed to be the victim of an Italian company using unwashed dioxin barrels to ship product to US customers.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-10   13:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: lodwick (#64)

Good grief - I had no idea.

BBBBRRRRSSSTTTT!

(That was me sticking my tougne out at you, if you did not understand the lingo!)

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-10   13:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: richard9151 (#62)

EVERY food law contained in the Bible is correct, scientifically.

Not by my science.

Protein (any kind) => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

Sugar ( any kind)=> glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)

"Carbohydrates" (any kind) => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)

Fats ( any kind) => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)

pork => => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)+ amino acids

birthday cake with thick icing => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)

steak => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

lamb => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)

poultry => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

shrimp => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

crab => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

lobster => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

chicken => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)+ amino acids

grub worms => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes) + amino acids

Lettuce => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)

and so on, as per this very abbreviated format.

Eliminatory by products are insoluble roughage, 30% E. coli mass, water, undigested excess, indigestibles like peanuts, gases for the most part re-absorbed and converted into glucose and amino acids.

Excretory by products are urea (CO2 and ammonia coupled to reduce individual toxicity and osmotic pressure), uric acid (nucleotide catabolism; also eliminatory), XS salts and minerals and "vitamins", CO2 and water.

Calories in calories out. The connector is energy, stored(fat) or used.

Two food groups, carbohydrate and protein have the ~ same number of calories per gram. Fat has twice the calories as pure sugar or pure protein per gram.

Abbreviated one minute input/output.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   14:00:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: HOUNDDAWG (#66)

US customers.

The stuff was going to VietNam and Cambodia. Turin even had a release of dioxin. I did not say, and do not know that Turin was the only company involved.

I also suspect the involved companies did a joint " I did it" to stop the controversy with the Pentagon in the lead.

I studied this scenario in depth in grad school as part of an exercise tracing the source, release and dispersal of toxic chemicals and their components and contaminants as related to " Agent Orange"; and their subsequent use as road oils and brush busters in the US.

I do not have a political dog in the fight. I am just relaying what was found out near the time of the controversy. What has been done with the information since I do not know and do not care.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   14:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: JCHarris (#69)

Very good.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-10   14:09:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: lodwick (#64)

Is that God's law, or man's?

I always thought of it as a form of conspicuous consumption. Just a way to show your wealth.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   14:17:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: farmfriend (#71)

I always thought of it as a form of conspicuous consumption. Just a way to show your wealth.

True...like sable at a seder...you seem to know about that.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   14:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: BTP Holdings (#23)

thanks for the great info.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-06-10   14:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: lodwick (#56)

God gave us ten.

Christ cut it down to two.

Well the Rabis Babylonian vermin (whom the Messiah addressed as "sons of the devil") - and whom are the leaders of the world's largest group of identity thieves - claim there is 613. But from a legal standpoint when Scripture is code-pleaded out including the "New Testament" it is more like 750 inclusive of Commandments, Statutes, and Judgments... BUT, the 10 and 2 you cited are pretty important ones, (I'm guessing) since the penalty (anytime you have a law there has to be a penalty ascribed for violation of that law) for each of them is capital punishment - the death penalty.

Dear God...

And we're supposed to know all of them - "ignorance of the law is no excuse"... Hell, I can't even purport to know all the "laws" in the stinking Transportation Code; let alone the literal volumes of nonsense that make up the rest of "law".

Does anyone have any idea of the number of "laws" here in the US? Last count I'd heard was over 2.5 million! HAHAHAHAHA I'm sticking with 759...

If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein

innieway  posted on  2007-06-10   14:58:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: richard9151 (#55)

There you go again, telling it like it is! shame on you!

Old habits are hard to break.

You seem to have a habit of doing the same thing!

If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein

innieway  posted on  2007-06-10   15:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: JCHarris (#72)

True...like sable at a seder...you seem to know about that.

Only as an outsider looking in.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: farmfriend (#76)

True...like sable at a seder...you seem to know about that.

Only as an outsider looking in.

LOL

Didn't you like the sable?

Its horrendously expensive from a first line caterer....and a seder gets the best.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:09:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: JCHarris (#77)

and a seder gets the best.

As do the Bar mitzvahs.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: farmfriend (#78)

and Bas mitzvahs

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: JCHarris (#79)

and Bas mitzvahs

My mother-in-law had her's a couple of years ago. Something she was denied as a young girl. She was one of 3 who did it. Blessings on her rabbi.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:24:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: farmfriend (#80)

Blessings on her rabbi.

Why?

It is essentially a "Coming Out".

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: farmfriend (#63)

I'm sorry, when I think of food laws I think of Jews having two dishwashers and two refrigerators because you can't mix dairy and meat.

Leave it to a Jew. What happens to the meat and dairy when they are eaten? Don't they mix in your stomach? So what, you have to space the eating of meat and dairy 12 hours apart??

We have two refrigerators here, but that is because we get 4 gallons of milk per day plus eggs from the chickens and do not have room to store it all. I keep 2 gallons of goat milk, 4 gallons of cow milk and a gallon of buttermilk in the fridge at all times, you try keeping all of that in one fridge and still have room for leftovers.

We also have two dishwashers, one automatic, and one manual (me) for the dishes that do not fit into the automatic.

If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein

innieway  posted on  2007-06-10   15:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: innieway (#82)

What happens to the meat and dairy when they are eaten? Don't they mix in your stomach?

LOL

Never served together either.

Next time you are in Manhattan go to a "Dairy Bar". It will be a new experience for you. (-:

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: lodwick (#64)

Is that God's law, or man's?

Man's of course. God would never come up with such a pathetic excuse for a law. For that matter, no one would.......except maybe a Rabbi......

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-06-10   15:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: innieway (#82)

What happens to the meat and dairy when they are eaten? Don't they mix in your stomach?

They are eaten at separate meals. Don't ask me to explain bagels and lox, I can't. The rules make absolutely no sense to me.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: innieway (#82)

We have two refrigerators here, but that is because we get 4 gallons of milk per day plus eggs from the chickens and do not have room to store it all. I keep 2 gallons of goat milk, 4 gallons of cow milk and a gallon of buttermilk in the fridge at all times, you try keeping all of that in one fridge and still have room for leftovers.

We also have two dishwashers, one automatic, and one manual (me) for the dishes that do not fit into the automatic.

Yum!

I'm eligible for adoption.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: JCHarris (#81)

Why?

It is essentially a "Coming Out".

For allowing her to complete a religious rite denied her at the appropriate age based on her gender.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:32:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: JCHarris (#68)

pork => => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)+ amino acids

And how is trichinosis broken down???

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-06-10   15:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: farmfriend (#85)

Don't ask me to explain bagels and lox, I can't.

Look at the definitions of meat and milk.

You must admit a fresh bagel with Scottish Lox (not the gravlox crap) , a thin slice of sweet onion, a slice of tomato and cream cheese studded with capers...

ummmm time for dinner!!

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: JCHarris (#89)

Look at the definitions of meat and milk.

Hey, I'm Christian. If it doesn't come out of a teat it isn’t dairy.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: JCHarris (#86)

I'm eligible for adoption.

You would think that you were a deprived adoptee, no pork, shellfish, ect.....

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug  posted on  2007-06-10   15:36:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: JCHarris (#89)

You must admit a fresh bagel with Scottish Lox (not the gravlox crap) , a thin slice of sweet onion, a slice of tomato and cream cheese studded with capers...

Ok now you are going to have to feed me.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: ladybug (#88)

And how is trichinosis broken down???

1. Virtually non-existant in the US unless you are a globalist middleman and get the crap from China or Mexico.

2. Trichinosis is not one of the world's dread diseases anyway

3. Common cooking completely kills the parasite

4. the parasite's presence is clearly visible as "spotted pork" ( now when did you see polka dot pork? LOL)

then like any protein...

cooked trichina => => glucose => pyruvic acid ; burned by every cell in your body except red blood cells ( erythrocytes)+ amino acids

YUMMY !!

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: innieway. everyone here (#74)

And we're supposed to know all of them - "ignorance of the law is no excuse"... Hell, I can't even purport to know all the "laws" in the stinking Transportation Code; let alone the literal volumes of nonsense that make up the rest of "law".

I've concluded that anyone who wants to be in politics - shouldn't be there.

Dr.Ron Paul for President

Lod  posted on  2007-06-10   15:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: ladybug (#91)

You would think that you were a deprived adoptee, no pork, shellfish, ect.....

"If ignorance is bliss, why aren't more people happy?"

ladybug

Hey !! Read on ! I am not the one doing without! My response was "malarky".

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-10   15:38:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: JCHarris (#93)

What killed me was the story about Orthodox Jews getting parasites from pork. Their immigrant house keepers were not washing their hands. Yuck! Apparently it's becoming a major problem.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-10   15:41:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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