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Title: Bees dropping like flies
Source: http://www.latimes.com/
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/science ... 2658.story?coll=la-home-center
Published: Jun 9, 2007
Author: http://www.latimes.com/
Post Date: 2007-06-09 22:28:41 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 4670
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Mysterious deaths of bees take broad toll
As scientists try to explain why colonies are vanishing, worried beekeepers and farmers add up their losses.

By Jia-Rui Chong and Thomas H. Maugh II
Times Staff Writers

June 10, 2007

The dead bees under Dennis vanEngelsdorp's microscope were like none he had ever seen before.

He had expected to see mites or amoebas, perennial pests of bees. Instead, he found internal organs swollen with debris and strangely blackened. The bees' intestinal tracts were scarred, and their rectums were abnormally full of what appeared to be partly digested pollen. Dark marks on the sting glands were telltale signs of infection.

"The more you looked, the more you found," said VanEngelsdorp, the acting apiarist for the state of Pennsylvania. "Each thing was a surprise."

VanEngelsdorp's examination of the bees in November was one of the first scientific glimpses of a mysterious honeybee die-off that has launched an intense search for a cure.

The puzzling phenomenon, known as Colony Collapse Disorder, or CCD, has been reported in 35 states, five Canadian provinces and several European countries. The die-off has cost U.S. beekeepers about $150 million in losses and an uncertain amount for farmers scrambling to find bees to pollinate their crops.

Scientists have scoured the country, finding eerily abandoned hives in which the bees seem to have simply left their honey and broods of baby bees.

"We've never experienced bees going off and leaving brood behind," said Pennsylvania-based beekeeper Dave Hackenberg. "It was like a mother going off and leaving her kids."

Researchers have picked through the abandoned hives, dissected thousands of bees, and tested for viruses, bacteria, pesticides and mites.

So far, they are stumped.

According to the Apiary Inspectors of America, 24% of 384 beekeeping operations across the country lost more than 50% of their colonies from September to March. Some have lost 90%.

"I'm worried about the bees," said Dan Boyer, 52, owner of Ridgetop Orchards in Fishertown, Pa., which grows apples. "The more I learn about it, the more I think it is a national tragedy."

At Boyer's orchard, 400 acres of apple trees — McIntosh, Honey Crisp, Red Delicious and 11 other varieties — have just begun to bud white flowers.

Boyer's trees need to be pollinated. Incompletely pollinated blooms would still grow apples, he said, but the fruit would be small and misshapen, suitable only for low-profit juice.

This year, he will pay dearly for the precious bees — $13,000 for 200 hives, the same price that 300 hives cost him last year.

The scene is being repeated throughout the country, where honeybees, scientifically known as Apis mellifera, are required to pollinate a third of the nation's food crop, including almonds, cherries, blueberries, pears, strawberries and pumpkins.

Vanishing colonies

One of the earliest alarms was sounded by Hackenberg, who used to keep about 3,000 hives in dandelion-covered fields near the Susquehanna River in Pennsylvania.

In November, Hackenberg, 58, was at his winter base in Florida. He peeked in on a group of 400 beehives he had driven down from his home in West Milton, Pa., a month before. He went from empty box to empty box. Only about 40 had bees in them.

"It was just the most phenomenal thing I thought I'd ever seen," he said.

The next morning, Hackenberg called Jerry Hayes, the chief of apiary inspection at the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services and president of the Apiary Inspectors of America.

Hayes mentioned some bee die-offs in Georgia that, until then, hadn't seemed significant.

Hackenberg drove back to West Milton with a couple of dead beehives and live colonies that had survived. He handed them over to researchers at Pennsylvania State University.

With amazing speed, the bees vanished from his other hives, more than 70% of which were abandoned by February.

Hackenberg, a talkative, wiry man with a deeply lined face, figured he lost more than $460,000 this winter for replacement bees, lost honey and missed pollination opportunities.

"If that happens again, we're out of business," he said.

It didn't take researchers long to figure out they were dealing with something new.

VanEngelsdorp, a sandy-bearded 37-year-old, quickly eliminated the most obvious suspects: Varroa and tracheal mites, which have occasionally wrought damage on hives since the 1980s.

At the state lab in Harrisburg, Pa., VanEngelsdorp checked bee samples from Pennsylvania and Georgia. He washed bees with soapy water to dislodge Varroa mites and cut the thorax of the bees to look for tracheal mites; he found that the number of mites was not unusually high.

His next guess was amoebic infection. He scanned the bees' kidneys for cysts and found a handful, but not enough to explain the population decline.

VanEngelsdorp dug through scientific literature looking for other mass disappearances.

He found the first reference in a 1869 federal report, detailing a mysterious bee disappearance. There was only speculation as to the cause — possibly poisonous honey or maybe a hot summer.

A 1923 handbook on bee culture noted that a "disappearing disease" went away in a short time without treatment. There was a reference to "fall dwindle" in a 1965 scientific article to describe sudden disappearances in Texas and Louisiana.

He found other references but no explanations.

VanEngelsdorp traveled to Florida and California at the beginning of the year to collect adult bees, brood, nectar, pollen and comb for a more systematic study. He went to 11 apiaries, both sick and healthy, and collected 102 colonies.

A number of the pollen samples went to Maryann Frazier, a honeybee specialist at Penn State who has been coordinating the pesticide investigation. Her group has been testing for 106 chemicals used to kill mites, funguses or other pests.

Scientists have focused on a new group of pesticides known as neonicotinoids, which have spiked in popularity because they are safe for people, Frazier said. Previous studies have shown that these pesticides can kill bees and throw off their ability to learn and navigate, she said.

Researchers have yet to collect enough data to come to any conclusions, but the experience of French beekeepers casts doubt on the theory. France banned the most commonly used neonicotinoid in 1999 after complaints from beekeepers that it was killing their colonies. French hives, however, are doing no better now, experts said.

Sniffing out the culprit

Entomologist Jerry J. Bromenshenk of the University of Montana launched his own search for poisons, relying on the enhanced odor sensitivity of bees — about 40 times better than that of humans.

When a colony is exposed to a new chemical odor, he said, its sound changes in volume and frequency, producing a unique audio signature.

Bromenshenk has been visiting beekeepers around the country, recording hive sounds and taking them back to his lab for analysis. To date, no good candidates have surfaced.

If the cause is not a poison, it is most likely a parasite.

UC San Francisco researchers announced in April that they had found a single-celled protozoan called Nosema ceranae in bees from colonies with the collapse disorder.

Unfortunately, Bromenshenk said, "we see equal levels of Nosema in CCD colonies and healthy colonies."

Several researchers, including entomologist Diana Cox-Foster of Penn State and Dr. W. Ian Lipkin, a virologist at Columbia University, have been sifting through bees that have been ground up, looking for viruses and bacteria.

"We were shocked by the huge number of pathogens present in each adult bee," Cox-Foster said at a recent meeting of bee researchers convened by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

The large number of pathogens suggested, she said, that the bees' immune systems had been suppressed, allowing the proliferation of infections.

The idea that a pathogen is involved is supported by recent experiments conducted by VanEngelsdorp and USDA entomologist Jeffrey S. Pettis.

One of the unusual features of the disorder is that the predators of abandoned beehives, such as hive beetles and wax moths, refuse to venture into infected hives for weeks or longer.

"It's as if there is something repellent or toxic about the colony," said Hayes, the Florida inspector.

To test this idea, VanEngelsdorp and Pettis set up 200 beehive boxes with new, healthy bees from Australia and placed them in the care of Hackenberg.

Fifty of the hives were irradiated to kill potential pathogens. Fifty were fumigated with concentrated acetic acid, a hive cleanser commonly used in Canada. Fifty were filled with honey frames that had been taken from Hackenberg's colonies before the collapse, and the last 50 were hives that had been abandoned that winter.

When VanEngelsdorp visited the colonies at the beginning of May, bees in the untouched hive were clearly struggling, filling only about a quarter of a frame. Bees living on the reused honeycomb were alive but not thriving. A hive that had been fumigated with acetic acid was better.

When he popped open an irradiated hive, bees were crawling everywhere. "This does imply there is something biological," he said.

If it is a pathogen or a parasite, honeybees are poorly equipped to deal with it, said entomologist May Berenbaum of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

The honeybee genome has only half as many genes to detoxify poisons and to fight off infections as do other insects.

"There is something about the life of the honeybee that has led to the loss of a lot of genes associated with detoxification, associated with the immune system," she said.

Bee conspiracies

In the absence of knowledge, theories have proliferated, including one that Osama bin Laden has engineered the die-off to disrupt American agriculture.

One of the most pervasive theories is that cellphone transmissions are causing the disappearances — an idea that originated with a recent German study. Berenbaum called the theory "a complete figment of the imagination."

The German physicist who conducted the tiny study "disclaimed the connection to cellphones," she said. "What they put in the colony was a cordless phone. Whoever translated the story didn't know the difference."

Another popular theory is that the bees have been harmed by corn genetically engineered to contain the pesticide B.t.

Berenbaum shot down the idea: "Here in Illinois, we're surrounded by an ocean of B.t. pollen, and the bees are not afflicted."

And so the search continues.

Many beekeepers have few options but to start rebuilding. Gene Brandi, a veteran beekeeper based in Los Banos, Calif., lost 40% of his 2,000 colonies this winter.

Brandi knows plenty of beekeepers who sold their equipment at bargain prices.

Scurrying around a blackberry farm near Watsonville, Brandi was restocking his bees. Dressed in a white jumpsuit and yellow bee veil, the exuberant 55-year-old pulled out a frame of honeycomb from a hive that had so many bees they were spilling out the front entrance.

"When it's going good like this, you forget CCD," he said.

Hackenberg, who has spent his whole life in the business, isn't giving up either. He borrowed money and restocked with bees from Australia.

In April, the normally hale Hackenberg started feeling short of breath. His doctor said he was suffering from stress and suggested he slow down.

Not now, Hackenberg thought. "I'm going to go down fighting."

jia-rui.chong@latimes.com, thomas.maugh@latimes.com

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#45. To: farmfriend, wudidiz, JCHarris, Original_Intent, robin, christine, IndieTX, PercyDovetonsils, All (#41)

From Some biological features of Mollicutes [PDF] [Edited link - FL]

Spiroplasmas are motile and show helicoidal morphology, they are frequently isolated from intestine, salivary glands, homocele of insects and the surface of plants and flowers.46,13 Spiroplasma melliferum and Spiroplasma apis are pathogenic for bees, they cross the intestine barrier reaching hemolinfa where they reproduce and induce death of their host.4 Spiroplasma have also been reported in Aedes aegypti mosquito reducing the fertility of the insects, opening the possibility of their use as biological control of mosquito.

If it IS Spiroplasma, a form of Mollicute that is known to attack the intestines of bees causing death, there's a bit more to worry about if they are present in CHEMTRAILS...

Spiroplasm a & Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   3:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#45)
(Edited)

From the main article...

He had expected to see mites or amoebas, perennial pests of bees. Instead, he found internal organs swollen with debris and strangely blackened. The bees' intestinal tracts were scarred, and their rectums were abnormally full of what appeared to be partly digested pollen. Dark marks on the sting glands were telltale signs of infection.

It goes on...

Fifty of the hives were irradiated to kill potential pathogens. Fifty were fumigated with concentrated acetic acid, a hive cleanser commonly used in Canada. Fifty were filled with honey frames that had been taken from Hackenberg's colonies before the collapse, and the last 50 were hives that had been abandoned that winter.

When VanEngelsdorp visited the colonies at the beginning of May, bees in the untouched hive were clearly struggling, filling only about a quarter of a frame. Bees living on the reused honeycomb were alive but not thriving. A hive that had been fumigated with acetic acid was better.

When he popped open an irradiated hive, bees were crawling everywhere. "This does imply there is something biological," he said.

From reading the Spiroplasma & Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies link, it appears that Spiroplasmas are very hard to kill..

Nothing seemed to distroy the agent; not heat, cold, or any of the normal chemical disinfectants. Nor could they find a trace of its chemical or molecular identity. Furthermore, the virus didn't cause inflamation so antibodies failed to leave a calling card. Some completely new agent was essential.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   3:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: FormerLurker (#46)

My tin foil hat is vibrating which means I think this shows signs of being man- made...excuse me...I mean CorporoFascist-made. An attack by agents of the StateInc to boost prices of commodities for their buddies in the Stock Market. IOW, treason; false flag. They are trying to kill us!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-10   4:18:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: All (#45)

From Pathogenicity of Spiroplasma apis and other spiroplasmas for honey-bees in southwestern France.

Mouches C, Bové JM, Albisetti J.

The haemolymph of honey-bees affected by a May disease-like disorder in southwestern France contained numerous spiroplasmas. Further characterization of the organisms and pathogenicity assays showed that the causal agent of the disease was a spiroplasma belonging to group IV. The name Spiroplasma apis was given to the reference strain B31 (ATCC 33834), one of the numerous similar isolates cultured from May-disease-affected bees. Spiroplasma isolates related to S. apis could be grown from the surface of flowers collected within the area visited by bees from the diseased hives. Several other strains belonging to group IV spiroplasmas were also isolated from the surface of flowers growing in southwestern France. In the same area, we also isolated, from pools of apparently healthy honey-bees and from the surface of a tulip tree flower, spiroplasma strains belonging to group I-2. One of these strains was shown to be pathogenic when introduced into adult bees by injection or food ingestion.

PMID: 6712058 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


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#49. To: IndieTX (#47)

My tin foil hat is vibrating which means I think this shows signs of being man- made...excuse me...I mean CorporoFascist-made. An attack by agents of the StateInc to boost prices of commodities for their buddies in the Stock Market. IOW, treason; false flag. They are trying to kill us!

Spiroplasmas are almost certainly the agent behind Mad Cow disease, and the human form, CJD. That the bees are experiencing the same symptoms they would be if they were infected with spiroplasmas, certainly indicates we have a bit of a problem.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   4:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: farmfriend, JCHarris (#35)

A bunch of bees will Alzheimer’s won't return to the hive.

You may have been more right than I thought. See the posts above..


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#51. To: farmfriend, JCHarris (#35)

A bunch of bees will Alzheimer’s won't return to the hive.

You may have been more right than I thought. A wasting disease caused by spiroplasmas certainly would appear to be similar to Alzheimer's. See the posts above..


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#52. To: FormerLurker (#51)

Chemtrails have aluminum in them too.

If Mad Dog calls, I'm not here.

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   4:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: wudidiz (#52) (Edited)

Chemtrails have aluminum in them too.

I could care less about the aluminum, I'd be REALLY concerned about spiroplama bacteria though, as it CAUSES Mad Cow, CJD, and Scrapies, otherwise known as Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies.

Prions are the byproduct of these cell-less bacteria once they bond with a cell apparently. So the prions are just an indication of the disease, whereas the spiroplasma organism causes it.

Did you read the link on that I had posted?


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   4:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: FormerLurker (#53)

Did you read the link on that I had posted?

I got it all bookmarked, but there's too many big words for this time of the day for this camper. Aluminum causes short-term memory loss in humans as well as Alzheimers, it also causes other problems when mixed with Magnesium which is also in the chemtrails. I'm just trying to throw stuff in in case it MIGHT be of some help.

:^)

I'm learning HTML 'n' stuff

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#55. To: WTF? (#19)

Jeong H. Im, age 72. Died: January 7, 2005. Korean Jeong H. Im, died of multiple stab wounds to the chest before firefighters found in his body in the trunk of a burning car on the third level of the Maryland Avenue Garage. A retired research assistant professor at the University of Missouri - Columbia and primarily a protein chemist, MUPD with the assistance of the Columbia Police Department and Columbia Fire Department are conducting a death investigation of the incident. A "person of interest" described as a male 6'– 6'2" wearing some type of mask possible a painters mask or drywall type mask was seen in the area of the Maryland Avenue Garage. Dr. Im was primarily a protein chemist and he was a researcher in the field.


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#56. To: wudidiz (#54)

Aluminum causes short-term memory loss in humans as well as Alzheimers, it also causes other problems when mixed with Magnesium which is also in the chemtrails. I'm just trying to throw stuff in in case it MIGHT be of some help.

The bees aren't being poisoned, as the agent is BIOLOGICAL, as demonstrated by the experiments performed with the bee hives. The intestines are scarred, just as they would be by this particular bacteria, which bores through the intestinal wall.

Thing is, it ALSO eats the brain.


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#57. To: wudidiz (#54)

Tom Thorne, age 64; Beth Williams, age 53; Died: December 29, 2004. Two wild life scientists, Husband-and-wife wildlife veterinarians who were nationally prominent experts on chronic wasting disease and brucellosis were killed in a snowy-weather crash on U.S. 287 in northern Colorado.


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#58. To: wudidiz (#54)

From Chronic Wasting Disease Alliance

Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is a transmissible neurological disease of deer and elk that produces small lesions in brains of infected animals. It is characterized by loss of body condition, behavioral abnormalities and death. CWD is classified as a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), and is similar to mad cow disease in cattle and scrapie in sheep.


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#59. To: All (#58)

John R. La Montagne, age 61. Died: November 2, 2004. Died while in Mexico, no cause stated, later disclosed as pulmonary embolism. PhD, Head of US Infectious Diseases unit under Tommie Thompson. Was NIAID Deputy Director. Expert in AIDS Program work and Microbiology and Infectious Diseases.

#67: Matthew Allison, age 32. Died: October 13, 2004. Fatal explosion of a car parked at an Osceola County, Fla., Wal-Mart store. It was no accident, Local 6 News has learned. Found inside a burned car. Witnesses said the man left the store at about 11 p.m. and entered his Ford Taurus car when it exploded. Investigators said they found a Duraflame log and propane canisters on the front passenger's seat. Allison had a college degree in molecular biology and biotechnology.


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#60. To: FormerLurker (#56)

Keep it comin' please, I'm saving all this, but my brain is overflowin', it's 2 am up in here.

;^)

I'm learning HTML 'n' stuff

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#61. To: FormerLurker (#59)

Their spirit lives on!

I'm learning HTML 'n' stuff

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#62. To: All (#59)

Dr. Michael Patrick Kiley, age 62. Died: January 24, 2004. Died of massive heart attack. Ebola, Mad Cow Expert, top of the line world class. It is interesting to note, he had a good heart, but it "gave out". Dr. Shope and Dr. Kiley were working on the lab upgrade to BSL 4 at the UTMB Galvaston lab for Homeland Security. The lab would have to be secure to house some of the deadliest pathogens of tropical and emerging infectious disease as well as bioweaponized ones.


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#63. To: wudidiz (#60)

I'm learning HTML 'n' stuff

Cool, you seem to be catching on..


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#64. To: FormerLurker (#63)

Thanks

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#65. To: wudidiz (#61)

Dr. Douglas James Passaro, age 43. Died April 18, 2005 from unknown cause in Oak Park, Illinois. Dr. Passaro was a brilliant epidemiologist who wanted to unlock the secrets of a spiral-shaped bacteria that causes stomach disease. He was a professor who challenged his students with real-life exercises in bioterrorism. He was married to Dr. Sherry Nordstrom..


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#66. To: FormerLurker (#65)

ahem..,

You appear to be a MAJOR s**t disturber, my friend. LOL!!

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   5:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: wudidiz (#66)

You appear to be a MAJOR s**t disturber, my friend. LOL!!

I just remembered what I had read as I looked up a bit of info, and the Wikipedia info steered me towards what I found. Interesting that they haven't looked into this particular organism as the cause, where there is info that it caused a huge loss of bees in France back in 1984.

And it is VERY disturbing that strains of this same bacteria are apparently the cause of mad cow and other wasting diseases, including the human form.

And is is REALLY interesting that those scientists who would be THE experts on this have been murdered, or died very suspicious deaths.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: FormerLurker (#66)

Hey, you know I was kidding right?

(Take a look at this nonsense from our band of merry stooges)

Chicks Dig the TRUTH

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   5:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#67)

Interesting that they haven't looked into this particular organism as the cause, where there is info that it caused a huge loss of bees in France back in 1984.

And it is VERY disturbing that strains of this same bacteria are apparently the cause of mad cow and other wasting diseases, including the human form.

And is is REALLY interesting that those scientists who would be THE experts on this have been murdered, or died very suspicious deaths.

Right freakin' scary is what it is!

I am trying, of course, to work towards possible preventions and/or solutions.

Ya know, to like survive this crap 'n' stuff?

Chicks Dig the TRUTH

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   5:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: wudidiz (#68)

Hey, you know I was kidding right?

Yes I know that, it's just that I'm fairly certain I just pieced it all together. The cause of Colony Collapse Disorder, the CHEMTRAIL connection, along with some VERY disturbing info concerning Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies.


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FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: wudidiz (#69)

Right freakin' scary is what it is!

I am trying, of course, to work towards possible preventions and/or solutions.

Ya know, to like survive this crap 'n' stuff?

The only way to stop it is to identify those that are infecting us with it, and bring them to justice, shutting down whatever program it is that is doing this.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#56)

Thing is, it ALSO eats the brain.

Saw on Discovery Channel that there is a parasite...a monster...that resides now in most humans. Once thought harmless, experiments show it causes deteriorating responses and alzheimers type symptoms. It lodges itself in the brain. I forgot what it's called. Any ideas?

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-10   5:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: IndieTX (#72)

Saw on Discovery Channel that there is a parasite...a monster...that resides now in most humans. Once thought harmless, experiments show it causes deteriorating responses and alzheimers type symptoms. It lodges itself in the brain. I forgot what it's called. Any ideas?

Spiroplasma.


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:37:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: FormerLurker (#71)

The only way to stop it is to identify those that are infecting us with it,

The bastards have ALLOWED us to be infected with mad cow by refusing to allow extensive testing even by private owners. They are murdering future generations and they know it.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-10   5:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: IndieTX (#74) (Edited)

Spiroplasma & Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: IndieTX (#74)

The bastards have ALLOWED us to be infected with mad cow by refusing to allow extensive testing even by private owners. They are murdering future generations and they know it.

I sometimes wonder if those behind this are even human, and I mean that in the literal sense. If they ARE human, then they have to be vaccinated against this microbe. If there is no vaccine, and I doubt they'd like to catch the bug themselves, then what are they?


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: FormerLurker (#71)

The only way to stop it is to identify those that are infecting us with it, and bring them to justice, shutting down whatever program it is that is doing this.

Chicks Dig the TRUTH

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   5:44:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: wudidiz, All (#77)

Let's hope that he can do something about it.

I'm calling it a night. Goodnight wud, goodnight all..


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-10   5:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: FormerLurker (#78)

Goodnight, FL, thanks for the GOOD work.

Chicks Dig the TRUTH

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   5:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: IndieTX (#74)

They are murdering future generations and they know it.

What can we do about it? I'm serious.

Chicks Dig the TRUTH

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   6:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: wudidiz (#80) (Edited)

What can we do about it? I'm serious.

Find out the exact biological make-up of the agent being used, magnify the compounds 100,000,000 times and spray D.C., Jew York and Synagogues/Banks throughout Amerika. Ban CIPRO use or gas masks by politicians, CEOs and Bankers. Then get on your knees and pray it works !

If it works and there is any surplus begin spraying the Mexican border and as far south as the supply lasts !

RON PAUL or REVOLUTION [we don't report-you don't decide]

noone222  posted on  2007-06-10   6:44:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: christine (#18) (Edited)

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! i just had to kill a scorpion that got inside !!!!!

My dear mother told me there were purple scorpions in their basement before I was born in Norfolk VA!

Have you ever heard of such a thing?

Just as Dover Air Force Base occasionally has to capture and/or kill a brown tree snake who hitches a ride on a C5 Galaxy from Guam (because we certainly don't want that nasty critter to get loose in Delaware) I suspect that Norfolk, the largest military installation in the world with a lot of service people in transit is the explanation for those scorpions.

EDIT: After a little searching I've discovered that there is an indigenous critter called vaejovis carolinianus or the Carolina scorpion in the area.

I've never seen one so, Im guessing that Norfolk has been too toxic (or hectic) for the poor critters since I was born.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-10   6:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: noone222 (#81)

Find out the exact biological make-up of the agent being used, magnify the compounds 100,000,000 times and spray D.C., Jew York and Synagogues/Banks throughout Amerika. Ban CIPRO use or gas masks by politicians, CEOs and Bankers. Then get on your knees and pray it works !

Hey, I just learned how to do HTML, I don't know if I'd be qualified to do all that.

I'd certainly be happy to do some prayin' though.

;^)

Chicks Dig the TRUTH

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-10   7:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: tom007 (#14)

Yellow jackets are a different creature.

Bees are cool and actually pretty sane for an insect. They'd have to be, since they die if they sting you. When the stinger's in it pulls the guts out of the bees and they die.

Hornets, wasps, yellow jackets, etc. are a different story. They can sting you mulitiple times and don't die. They're all insane, and I'm glad they're not the size of birds, or else we'd all have to carry shotguns and be in a lot of trouble.

Freeper motto: I read, but do not understand, I write, but make no sense, I think, but nothing happens.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-06-10   7:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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