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Title: Ron Paul on 9/11 (Is Ron Paul a Sell Out?)
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Reason.com
URL Source: http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html
Published: Jun 11, 2007
Author: David Weigel
Post Date: 2007-06-11 10:08:29 by can of corn
Keywords: None
Views: 295
Comments: 30
Reason: The position of the Student Scholars is that 9/11 was executed by the U.S. government. Do you agree or disagree with that? Paul: I'd say there's no evidence of that. Reason: So what did you mean when you told Student Scholars you'd be open to a new 9/11 investigation? Paul: Well, I think the more we know about what we went on is good. But I don't think there's any evidence of [an inside job] and I don't believe that. The blame goes to bad policy. And a lot of times bad policy is well-motivated. The people who believe in a one world government are well motivated, but they disagree with me.
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#1. To: can of corn (#0)
What is the purpose of this exercise?
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I'm sure he'll believe it as soon as he sees the evidence.
I speak truth, not as much as I would, but as much as I dare; and I dare a little the more as I grow older. ~ Montaigne
well, if this is what Ron Paul said, i vehemently disagree with him.
Sow doubt and dissension, there are others here besides corn that do that.
I would accept that Pauls answer is the ONLY answer he could give. He said neither yes nor no.
yes, i understand.
Corn is playing on words... If Paul was concrete in believing there was no government involvment, he would not be open to a new investigation.
That is not what he said: But I don't think there's any evidence of [an inside job] and I don't believe that. So by not publicly espousing views of those he openly glad-hands such as the Bush Government orchestrated 9/11, does that make him sell out? Not a lot of "courage" on display.
Courage?? I don't know if there was government involvement and I doubt if you know either. If you do know either way, why not have the courage to enlighten us to which ever is correct. Don't be bashful. Surely you have inside information one way or the other.
He said there was no evidence of government involvement. That is not what the people he panders to believes.
Your reading comprehension seems to be lacking. He has NO evidence...Is that so difficult to understand? I also have NO evidence. Failure to understand the English language is perhaps a problem?
I don't give a baboon's bright red ass what Ron Paul thinks about 9/11...he is still the BEST MAN for the White House...period. If Paul were to give the SLIGHTEST hint that he thought there was anything 'conspiratorial' about 9/11; the media would be on him like a buzzard on a fresh gut wagon. He knows it, and his supporters should understand that, as well. Know thy enemy...it is the media.
http://www.911truthhumboldt.org/docs/Research/bitterdebate.htm
I speak truth, not as much as I would, but as much as I dare; and I dare a little the more as I grow older. ~ Montaigne
yep, you're right...and i know that under the circumstances he cannot be a purist.
What the evidence shows us is that fedgov's story is a fairy tale, and that they did their damnest to quickly destroy all available evidence of the crimes committed on 9/11.
The MSM anyway. Dr.Paul OWNS the internet and alternative media.
He has NO evidence...Is that so difficult to understand? Gee, what tortured parsing. The reason neither you nor he have evidence is because there is no evidence. Or are you both just ignorant of the evidence? "Evidence" doesn't consist of something that might possibly exist, It is something that is known to exist. Perhaps both you nad he need to do some more Googling to find such evidence.
Putting things in perspective, whether 9/11 was or was not an inside job, it doesn't change the injustice and overall wrongness in US foreign policy before and after. What if the Reichstag fire HAD NOT been an inside job? Would that have given any more legitimacy to the actions of Hitler and the Nazi regime that used the fire to justify the seizure of power? I think not. And that is the important lesson of what Paul has to say. The real prosecution of war criminals won't take place until the war is ended. And that is what the War Party is counting on. Many libertarians, by the way, disagree with Ron's policy with regards to immigration (in particular his support of a 700 mile wall). Many here would support this, and I don't want to debate this issue right now, except to say that it is far less important to me his position on immigration and the border than is his positon on foreign policy, because it is surely the main root of all America's current troubles. "War is the health of the state" was realized back as far as WWI, and is truer today than ever.
I would accept that Pauls answer is the ONLY answer he could give. He said neither yes nor no. Even if he believes personally that it is an inside job he dares not say so. The moment he does that his campaign is dead as a door nail. We may well know it was done with inside connivance BUT if RP says so publicly in the current environment he gets the "Dean Treatment" squared. They would villify and kookify him in EVERY Lamestream Media outlet.
Liberals want the government to be your Mommy. Conservatives want government to be your Daddy. the root, of course, is the Federal Reserve and the false money system...from that stems all ills and the preemptive war policy wouldn't be possible if not for that.
His supporters both know it and understand it. I've got no problem with what he says here. I think Can of Cornholers is just trying to figure out a way to bash Paul.
And the publican, standing far off, would not so much as lift his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather thant he other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. -Luke 18: 14.
The Fed is certainly a empowering factor to the War Party, but not necessarily the ones calling the shots. Fortunately, Ron Paul's position on the Fed and central banking is the right one. The "inflation tax" is probably a novel concept to most Americans. The more people are reached, the more people will really know what's going on when inflation gets out of control. And short of repudiating the debt, that is most likely where the war will lead America.
The king of parsing showers others with his lack of understanding. If you would add a little humor to your shilling I might chat with you.
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i'm going to need a reminder!
Funny how can of corn uses the same quote from Ron Paul: (1) here to cast doubt on the 9/11 Truth movement (because Ron Paul doesn't clearly accept it); and (2) on another thread to explain why people should not vote for Ron Paul (because Ron Paul does not clearly reject 9/11 Truth beliefs).
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Geez, another pos disruptor just when we were getting a break from the other scam artist. Sheesh.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
Notice there was no reply to my question in #1. Typical bot behavior.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
"can of corn"? More like "crock of sh*t".
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i noticed that too.
#2. To: can of corn (#0)
#3. To: can of corn (#0)
But I don't think there's any evidence of [an inside job] and I don't believe that.
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#1)
What is the purpose of this exercise?
#5. To: christine (#3)
Paul: I'd say there's no evidence of that.
#6. To: Cynicom (#5)
I would accept that Pauls answer is the ONLY answer he could give.
#7. To: christine (#6)
Reason: So what did you mean when you told Student Scholars you'd be open to a new 9/11 investigation?
#8. To: Cynicom (#7)
If Paul was concrete in believing there was no government involvment, he would not be open to a new investigation.
#9. To: can of corn (#8)
Not a lot of "courage" on display.
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
#11. To: can of corn (#10)
He said there was no evidence of government involvement.
#12. To: Cynicom, christine (#11)
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#13. To: Cynicom, can of corn (#11)
Difficult question to answer, but well answered by Ron Paul.
#14. To: who knows what evil (#12)
the media would be on him like a buzzard on a fresh gut wagon. He knows it, and his supporters should understand that, as well.
#15. To: Cynicom, christine, Ron Paul fans (#11)
#16. To: who knows what evil (#12)
Know thy enemy...it is the media.
#17. To: Cynicom (#11)
Your reading comprehension seems to be lacking.
#18. To: who knows what evil, Cynicom, christine (#12)
#19. To: Cynicom, christine, all (#5)
(Edited)
Paul: I'd say there's no evidence of that.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou
#20. To: PnbC (#18)
than is his position on foreign policy, because it is surely the main root of all America's current troubles.
#21. To: who knows what evil (#12)
If Paul were to give the SLIGHTEST hint that he thought there was anything 'conspiratorial' about 9/11; the media would be on him like a buzzard on a fresh gut wagon. He knows it, and his supporters should understand that, as well. Know thy enemy...it is the media.
#22. To: christine (#20)
#23. To: can of corn (#17)
Parsing
#24. To: christine, Jethro Tull, robin, BTP Holdings, Esso, IndieTX, Dakmar (#20)
Don't miss this broadcast...I didn't know who the author was till now.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#25. To: Eoghan (#24)
#26. To: bluedogtxn, can of corn (#21)
#27. To: BTP Holdings (#1)
#28. To: angle (#27)
another pos disruptor
#29. To: can of corn (#0)
#30. To: aristeides (#26)
Funny how can of corn uses the same quote from Ron Paul: (1) here to cast doubt on the 9/11 Truth movement (because Ron Paul doesn't clearly accept it); and (2) on another thread to explain why people should not vote for Ron Paul (because Ron Paul does not clearly reject 9/11 Truth beliefs).
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