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Title: CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
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Published: Jun 11, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-06-11 10:50:23 by richard9151
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Comments: 59

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children.

He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return (And he will as he learns the rules), he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. I hope enough of you understand that this issue has nothing to do with cheap labor; it has to do with reducing America to the level of Mèxico so that the two nations can be joined together - along with Canada, of course - now, and later, merged into the NWO.)

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY.

'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'


Oh nononono! You just don`t understand! We just need to build a fence on the border! That will take care of the problem! Oh, and hire another 250,000/500,000/maybe a million or so new cops! That's the ticket!

Ummmm. That is a thought! Where, do you suppose, THEY will get the next generation of police, willing to work cheaply, from? And, what do you suppose those police will be doing? And if you answer, working on the illegal immigration problem, then you ain't got a clue. In fact, I could say, you probably don't know s--- about illegal immigration. But hey! WHAT DO I KNOW!

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

While this is true, labor is such a miniscule component of produce production that it is negligible.

The labor component of, say, lettuce, is less than 5%. Paying a farmworker double minimum wage would increase the cost of a head of lettuce by about a nickel.

This has been completely debunked.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-11   14:58:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: mirage (#1)

The labor component of, say, lettuce, is less than 5%. Paying a farmworker double minimum wage would increase the cost of a head of lettuce by about a nickel.

And....... your point would be?

Don`t discuss this with me; there have been posts on 4um describing how big meat processors ran buses to the border to pick up illegals, returned them to the meat-packing plants, dumped them off in front of the welfare/assisted housing government offices back near the meat packer's plants, and then hired them after they were all set-up.

Generally, if you pay any attention to the info, you can find the real reasons for using illegals; THEY CAN NOT GO TO THE GOVERNMENTAL AUTHORITIES AND REPORT ABUSES, UNSAFE WORKING CONDITIONS, UNCLEAN BUTCHERING AND/OR PACKING CONDITIONS, AND CAN NOT COLLECT WHEN INJURED ON THE JOB. And dozens of them have been injured on the job in numerous locations around the United States.

Try doing a little reading for a while and learn a little; I suggest you start with the book, Fast Food Nation.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-11   15:27:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: richard9151 (#2)

Try doing a little reading for a while and learn a little; I suggest you start with the book, Fast Food Nation.

So....you suggest I read something I've already read. Interesting. Okay.

Its less about labor than it is about not wanting to invest in mechanization. Chew on this - the Japanese have a machine that can pick strawberries. But it involves a capital investment.

Likewise, there are machines now that pick oranges, lemons, peaches, and apples - and do a better job than human hands.

Now chew on this. Only a quarter of the agricultural labor force is "migrant" labor. What are the other 75%? Can you answer that?

Look, you're a disinformation shill. Get the facts and figures straight.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-11   15:38:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mirage (#3)

Look, you're a disinformation shill. Get the facts and figures straight.

So you are claiming that the facts in this post are false? Interesting.

And your point about capital investment is what? No, why would they when they can do the labor much cheaper with illegals, and, never have to pay taxes on them nor overtime to them?

Only a quarter of the agricultural labor force is "migrant" labor. Says who? Oh, right, the same media that assures us that there are 'only' 12 million illegals in the US, so it is OK to give them green cards/citizenship. I got it.

And what does that have to do with the tens of thousands working in construction, meat packing plants, fruit/vegtable packing plants and etc.? Curious minds want to know.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-12   14:35:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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