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Title: CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
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Published: Jun 11, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-06-11 10:50:23 by richard9151
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Comments: 59

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."

Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children.

He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return (And he will as he learns the rules), he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.

He qualifies for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. I hope enough of you understand that this issue has nothing to do with cheap labor; it has to do with reducing America to the level of Mèxico so that the two nations can be joined together - along with Canada, of course - now, and later, merged into the NWO.)

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY.

'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'


Oh nononono! You just don`t understand! We just need to build a fence on the border! That will take care of the problem! Oh, and hire another 250,000/500,000/maybe a million or so new cops! That's the ticket!

Ummmm. That is a thought! Where, do you suppose, THEY will get the next generation of police, willing to work cheaply, from? And, what do you suppose those police will be doing? And if you answer, working on the illegal immigration problem, then you ain't got a clue. In fact, I could say, you probably don't know s--- about illegal immigration. But hey! WHAT DO I KNOW!

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

While this is true, labor is such a miniscule component of produce production that it is negligible.

The labor component of, say, lettuce, is less than 5%. Paying a farmworker double minimum wage would increase the cost of a head of lettuce by about a nickel.

This has been completely debunked.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-11   14:58:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: mirage (#1)

The problem keeps getting framed in cheap tomato picker terms, but it is also about a cheap source of labor for construction and factory work. If the American auto industry ever hopes to make a comeback, it will be done on the backs of cheap imported labor putting wage pressure and keeping a cap on UAW workers.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2007-06-11   15:46:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Arete (#4)

Exactly, which is why the apologists for illegal immigration need to be tagged as such. They aren't placing the blame where it belongs and are not holding people accountable for their own actions.

Mexico needs a populist revolution where the elites are dethroned.

The US cannot absorb them all without fracturing and tearing itself apart. So either the problem is solved or the US is going to get a lot more violent.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-12   13:53:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mirage (#11)

Mexico needs a populist revolution where the elites are dethroned.

Go ahead, explain how that is going to be done, BUT FIRST EXPLAIN WHY IT IS NOT BEING DONE INSIDE THE UNITED STATES, bozo!

This is a fact; that last 6 president of Mèxico were hand-picked by the bankers in New York, including the present one, who, as is well known in Mèxico stole the election using the same EXACT plan that Bush used in Florida, including the same types of machines and a decision by the Judicial branch of the government to confirm his election. Sound familiar?

Now, go see the post I put up about the Passage of NAFTA in Mèxico. That president of Mèxico, responsible for the passage of NAFTA, had to flee Mèxico afterwards. Can you name any ANY ANY politicians in the US who were responsible for NAFTA and anything happened to them?

So before you go lecturing about how bad some other place is, take care of your own house FIRST!

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-12   14:46:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: richard9151 (#17)

So before you go lecturing about how bad some other place is, take care of your own house FIRST!

This is why you are a shill and an apologist for bad behavior.

Your claims that people are not responsible for their own actions just make you look like a fool. Claiming that a rapist is not responsible for his actions because "the evil people drove him to it" does not excuse that responsibility on the part of the rapist.

That is the case you just laid out.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-12   14:55:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mirage (#19)

Your claims that people are not responsible for their own actions just make you look like a fool.

Never said anything about that, bozo. And what I am doing is taking care of my house; I LIVE IN MÈXICO!

And I know what goes on down here a lot better than you do, amd I know who and what is responsible for the problems in Mèxico cause I do not listen to the non-sense on the tele in the US! I actually read the material that explains it!

And I know why so many Mèxicans are crossing the border; no work. Why? Cause nearly 15 million of them have been driven off of their small land holdings by the terms of NAFTA, which was a gift from the industrial ag giants in the US, and the Us bankers in New York.

And I know who was responsible for all of the freebees given to the illegal immigrants, and it wasn`t the Mèxican government, NOR the illegals. It was YOU and your politicians. Think maybe they have some other project in mind that you do not know about, like, maybe, joining the US and Mèxico together? WHICH I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE!

Read the post, Passage of NAFTA in Mèxico.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-12   15:22:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: richard9151 (#20)

NAFTA is just one piece of the bigger picture.

Individuals are still responsible for their own actions. There is no amount of "But, the big bad evil NAFTA forced them to become gang members" that is even possible to believe.

Attempts to obfuscate and excuse personal responsibility paint you as being an apologist for the people perpetrating the acts.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-12   16:13:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: mirage (#21)

Individuals are still responsible for their own actions. There is no amount of "But, the big bad evil NAFTA forced them to become gang members" that is even possible to believe.

Jeez, not that old crap again. I posted Street Gangs of Los Angelas yesterday, and showed in it that the street gangs ALL originated within the US, and that the FBI says that the gangs are now being EXPORTED to Mèxico and Central America..... FROM THE UNITED STATES!

And I agree, individuals are responsible for their own actions. That is why the illegals are here, taking care of their business by taking care of their families.

They have come to where they have been encouraged to come, are being given many, many gifts to stay, and are enjoying themselves..... at your expense. Cause you permit it. THROUGH YOUR POLITICIANS!

I guess I am just going to have to do a post on what is behind the so-called illegal immigration, which is encourged, and by who.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-12 16:58:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: mirage (#21)

Individuals are still responsible for their own actions. There is no amount of "But, the big bad evil NAFTA forced them to become gang members" that is even possible to believe.

Attempts to obfuscate and excuse personal responsibility paint you as being an apologist for the people perpetrating the acts.

NOT when the agreements are made outside of congressional review and input from voters.

And a complicit media.

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-12 17:31:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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