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Title: CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
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Published: Jun 11, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-06-11 10:50:23 by richard9151
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CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about? Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage. Consumers don't want expensive produce. Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs. But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor." Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or $6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return (And he will as he learns the rules), he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free. He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps. He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care. His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school. He requires bilingual teachers and books. He qualifies for relief from high energy bills. If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense. He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance. Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material. He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits. Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his. The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up. Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people. I hope enough of you understand that this issue has nothing to do with cheap labor; it has to do with reducing America to the level of Mèxico so that the two nations can be joined together - along with Canada, of course - now, and later, merged into the NWO.) THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!' Oh nononono! You just don`t understand! We just need to build a fence on the border! That will take care of the problem! Oh, and hire another 250,000/500,000/maybe a million or so new cops! That's the ticket! Ummmm. That is a thought! Where, do you suppose, THEY will get the next generation of police, willing to work cheaply, from? And, what do you suppose those police will be doing? And if you answer, working on the illegal immigration problem, then you ain't got a clue. In fact, I could say, you probably don't know s--- about illegal immigration. But hey! WHAT DO I KNOW!
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#19. To: richard9151 (#17)
This is why you are a shill and an apologist for bad behavior. Your claims that people are not responsible for their own actions just make you look like a fool. Claiming that a rapist is not responsible for his actions because "the evil people drove him to it" does not excuse that responsibility on the part of the rapist. That is the case you just laid out.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Never said anything about that, bozo. And what I am doing is taking care of my house; I LIVE IN MÈXICO! And I know what goes on down here a lot better than you do, amd I know who and what is responsible for the problems in Mèxico cause I do not listen to the non-sense on the tele in the US! I actually read the material that explains it! And I know why so many Mèxicans are crossing the border; no work. Why? Cause nearly 15 million of them have been driven off of their small land holdings by the terms of NAFTA, which was a gift from the industrial ag giants in the US, and the Us bankers in New York. And I know who was responsible for all of the freebees given to the illegal immigrants, and it wasn`t the Mèxican government, NOR the illegals. It was YOU and your politicians. Think maybe they have some other project in mind that you do not know about, like, maybe, joining the US and Mèxico together? WHICH I ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE! Read the post, Passage of NAFTA in Mèxico.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
NAFTA is just one piece of the bigger picture. Individuals are still responsible for their own actions. There is no amount of "But, the big bad evil NAFTA forced them to become gang members" that is even possible to believe. Attempts to obfuscate and excuse personal responsibility paint you as being an apologist for the people perpetrating the acts.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Do you know where I can exchange my dollars for some Ameros?
no it isn't. Most people living in Mexico - flacks for the cause that they are - always omit the word ILLEGAL when discussing this issue.
http://www.heritage. org/Research/Immigration/SR9.cfm In 1963, President Lyndon Johnson launched the War on Poverty with the goal of eliminating poverty in the United States. Since that time, the U.S. has spent over $11 trillion on anti-poverty programs ... Since the immigration reforms of the 1960s, the U.S. has imported poverty through immigration policies that permitted and encouraged the entry and residence of millions of low-skill immigrants into the nation ... Today’s immigrants differ greatly from historic immigrant populations. Prior to 1960, immigrants to the U.S. had education levels that were similar to those of the non-immigrant workforce and earned wages that were, on average, higher than those of non-immigrant workers. Since the mid-1960s, however, the education levels of new immigrants have plunged relative to non-immigrants; consequently, the average wages of immigrants are now well below those of the non-immigrant population. Recent immigrants increasingly occupy the low end of the U.S. socio- economic spectrum.[2] The current influx of poorly educated immigrants is the result of two factors: first, a legal immigration system that favors kinship ties over skills and education; and second, a permissive attitude toward illegal immigration that has led to lax border enforcement and non-enforcement of the laws that prohibit the employment of illegal immigrants. In recent years, these factors have produced an inflow of some ten and a half million immigrants who lack a high school education. http://usinfo.s tate.gov/journals/itsv/0699/ijse/capop.htm ... the population of the United States continues to grow increasingly diverse. In recent years, Hispanics and minority racial groups (defined here as racial and ethnic groups that make up less than 50 percent of the population and include non-Hispanic blacks, Asians and American Indians) have each grown faster than the population as a whole. In 1970 these groups together represented only 16 percent of the population. By 1998 this share had increased to 27 percent. Assuming current trends continue, the Bureau of the Census projects that these groups will account for almost half of the U.S. population by 2050. Although such projections are necessarily imprecise, they do indicate that the racial and ethnic diversity of the United States will expand substantially in the next century. Immigration has been the key to this demographic evolution. It has contributed to the rapid growth of the Asian and Hispanic populations since the 1960s. http://www.csulb.edu/%7Ekmacd/books-immigration.html Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co- religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences. Carefully note; Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. http://www.white- history.com/hwr67.htm UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - Third World Immigration Starts After 1960 Until the 1960s, most immigrants to the United States came from Europe. Mexicans had however long since been crossing the border to seek employment in the White created prosperity that was North America: an estimated 500,000 Mexicans entered America, legally and illegally, in the 1930s; one million in the 1940s; and 2.5 million in the 1950s. Starting from 1975, the vast majority of immigrants into America have been from non-White World countries from Asia and Latin America. More than 4 million newcomers entered the United States during the 1970s, rising to more than 6 million arrived in the 1980s; with at least 80 percent of these from Latin America or Asia. During the 1990s another 10 million entered the country: the largest influx of immigrants in any decade in American history. In the 1980s, concern about the surge of illegal immigrants led Congress to pass legislation aimed at curtailing illegal immigration. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Any other questions, robin?
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Not to worry....... coming soon, thanks to the US military, to a bank near you....
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Exchange rate. All Dollars = 1 bag of dirt, and a T-shirt that reads: Dead Country Walking.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Jeez, not that old crap again. I posted Street Gangs of Los Angelas yesterday, and showed in it that the street gangs ALL originated within the US, and that the FBI says that the gangs are now being EXPORTED to Mèxico and Central America..... FROM THE UNITED STATES! And I agree, individuals are responsible for their own actions. That is why the illegals are here, taking care of their business by taking care of their families. They have come to where they have been encouraged to come, are being given many, many gifts to stay, and are enjoying themselves..... at your expense. Cause you permit it. THROUGH YOUR POLITICIANS! I guess I am just going to have to do a post on what is behind the so-called illegal immigration, which is encourged, and by who.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
LOL!!! Pretty damned accurate I tell you!!
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I may have missed it, but I still don't see the law that disallows white immigrants.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Attempts to obfuscate and excuse personal responsibility paint you as being an apologist for the people perpetrating the acts. NOT when the agreements are made outside of congressional review and input from voters. And a complicit media.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co- religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences. Carefully note; Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. Then, should not Israel welcome Mexican immigration, and agree to pay for such. And enjoy the same benefit they seem want bestowed here? It seems like a better experiment actually.. As Israel is so small, and needs so many to help them all the time.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
So, according to you, nobody is responsible for their own actions. You are an apologist and an enabler.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
It is called quotas, robin, and the quotas for whites are about nill. I will do the post, prhaps today, and put the figures in.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
All we need are a few politician enablers to encourage us to break the law. Should be simple enough since they are such great role models.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
It seems like a better experiment actually.. As Israel is so small, and needs so many to help them all the time. Well, yeah, but some people can not be led to the truth, no matter what you show. err, are youse there, mirage?
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
You are, and you are reaping what you have sown. You are a United States citizen, and the United States government has detrimined that it is in your best interest to allow massive non-white immigration into the United States, where you reside. What is your problem with that?
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I understand the quotas change from year to year. "Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Do you truly understand, robin? Since the implementation of the law, the relative proportion of the white population has been in steady decline, with whites projected to lose their majority status during the 21st century. Hispanics, a group composed of Spanish- speaking whites, blacks, indigenous tribes, and those of mixed ancestry have replaced English-speaking African Americans as the largest minority in the U.S. There has also been enormous growth of immigration from non-European nations since the implementation of the law. There is a general law which states that the INTENT of any law can bested be determined by the result of that law. The above paragraph accurately protrays exactly what was intended by the change in immigration law in 1965. By the way, I have put up the first immigration post.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
As I pointed out, it's also possible that not that many White Europeans want to emigrate anywhere, least of all to America. The Dutch are emigrating to Canada. And, as I also pointed out, there is another easy way for skilled Europeans to emigrate here through the foreign visa program. The problem we have is with illegal immigration, mostly from Mexico and further south.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Bingo. By 1965, the Post WW2 Western European surge was done with. Apart from entertainers in stratospheric tax brackets, many preferred the quality of life in Europe to America. Hard f'us to believe, but there it is, high gas prices notwithstanding. After the Berlin Wall came down, there was and still is somewhat of an Eastern European surge. But the fact remained that nonEuros were far more motivated to come here than Euros, the English in fact, in the 60's preferred South Africa and Australia. The Mexican bulge now is partially designed to help save SocialSecurity as they eventually become "normalized", the hope being that their reproductive ratios will raise the US above the ZeroPopulationGrowth stage. FWIW,IMO, but it's still a fact :>>
I wonder how many ex-pats live in Europe now? Putin's practically advertising for American farmers to move to Russia.
"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
You two guys are just apologists for bad behavior. "Just following orders" is not a defense if the orders are illegal or immoral and both of you know it. Kinda like this. Of course, you guys would say that the drug dealers running around shooting people bear NO RESPONSIBILITY whatsoever for their own actions. Personally, I hope there is a special spot in hell for these guys and their enablers. http://www.kvia.com/Global/story.asp?S=6629870&nav=menu193_2 Juarez on 'high alert' after multiple shootings EL PASO, Tx. - The City of Juarez is on high alert as authorities take to the streets with high- powered rifles in the wake of several shooting deaths. Police in Juarez are reeling from a series of violent murders and now the city is scrambling to prevent a bloody battle between drug dealers. Federal, state, and local officers are now swarming the streets armed with a lot of guns. The situation started last Wednesday when a municipal police officer and a state officer were shot and killed with a machine gun in the Campestre area of central Juarez. Juarez authorities tell ABC-7 $3000 was found in their patrol car, which leads investigators to believe that the two officers were working with the drug dealers. Then Wednesday night, two state police officers on patrol were also gunned down with a machine gun. Investigators said the officers had nothing to do with drug involvement, they believe the officers were killed just to prove a point! Early Thursday morning, another retaliation, also in the Campestre area. Two men were inside a brand new Chrysler 300. They too were killed when someone opened fire on them with a machine gun. Juarez authorities tell ABC-7 that the car had 5 guns inside, and they men are believed to be hit men. That shooting was followed by another shooting just a block from a Municipal Police Station, resulting in the death of yet another man. After the latest shooting, city officials said they had enough. Officials issued 360 rifles to officers on the street; plus they brought in federal and state officers, adding 200 more law enforcement officials to the streets of Juarez. Officials have set up checkpoints all over the city. They say that vehicles with tinted windows will be searched for guns. They add that this alert will remain in effect until further notice.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Go to Georgia..and look at the poultry industry.. I was there a couple of years ago and a newspaper there reported that GA has the fastest going illegal population in the country and that includes of course CA
The military? What happened to Brinks?
Absolutely. That is what the US government wants. Just read the 4 posts I put up today on immigration. AND, the violence on the Mèxico side of the border is spilling over from the US side, as the Latino gangs, which ALL started in the US, start to expand into Mèxico. I covered part of this in a post yesterday.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Nah. The military makes it possible, and Blackwater will be the new 'protectors.'
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
It's in the CA Valley too. I believe it's everywhere, now. Not just where illegals work in processing, but travel to other farms.. and do not follow standards in so far as boots gloves, hand washing etc., to even VISIT, another plant... whether it is their's or not. As in the building industry, the under the table money is huge. Who gives a rat who dies, suffers, or is stuck. They don't. They collect the money and move on. Time for people to learn to build their own houses, grow their own food, and shun the leeches.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
You must be drinking, or in need of an enema.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Its called believing that people are responsible and accountable for their own actions. Everyone has a choice - do it or don't do it. Not everyone makes the right decision.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Like this? Let's put it this way -- if you think the CIA is making bedfellows down in Mexico to run drugs, Mexico is now getting the payback for lying down with dogs. You can't have it both ways. People are responsible for their own actions. Have a news article. MONTERREY, Mexico, June 12 (Reuters) - A Mexican state lawmaker was shot and killed in the busy center of the violent business city of Monterrey on Tuesday, police said, the latest attack in a surge of killings by feuding drug gangs. Unknown gunmen sprayed politician Mario Cesar Rios' car with bullets as he drove down a main city avenue, a police spokesman said. Rios, 44, was a legislator for the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, in the Congress of Nuevo Leon state, where the party holds power. Some witnesses said Rios survived the attack and drove himself to the hospital but died upon arrival, local media reported. Monterrey, 150 miles (230 km) from the U.S. border, is Mexico's main business city and was until recently spared the violence that is sweeping Mexico. But in the last two years gunmen from rival drug gangs fighting to control trafficking routes have moved into the city and carried out a wave of gangland-style murders, including dozens of policemen. Victims of drug gang killings in the city number some 80 people so far this year, up from 55 in the whole of 2006. President Felipe Calderon has deployed thousands of troops across Mexico in an attempt to rein in the growing power of the cartels, but the violence has not abated. More than 1,000 killings have been blamed on the drug war so far this year, on a par with some 2,000 in 2006.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Everyone has a choice - do it or don't do it. Not everyone makes the right decision. You are delusional. You can not make a 'right' choice, when the rules of the game AND THE game, is changed on you, after you sign your name on the contract. You can't back out if you've been lied to either. You can not walk away from military service. It's volunteer, permanent slavery. Until death do you part. Rarely do you see anyone in a political military position, take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for a screw up and FIX IT. some are fired, take retirement or are demoted, but does the PROBLEM get resolved ??
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Your comments are, no offense intended, STUPID. There is always a choice. There is no such thing as "no choice."
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
There is always a choice. There is no such thing as "no choice." Sometime facts are stupid. Otherwise, one can believe that a mirage is real. No offense.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
None taken, but there is always a choice in things. Believe me, I've had to make some rather tough ones - and made decisions that the people at the time thought I was crazy for, but in retrospect, ended up being the correct ones. Even when there is a gun leveled at your head, you still have a choice. The fact that I'm able to post this to you is proof of that. The other guy, though, got his ass thrown in jail and was then deported.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Some 'choices' are no choice. Suicide or suicide. That's not really wiggle room if you ask me. It's just an opinion. Nothing to get excited about. Perhaps we are talking past each other about different things. But still, I hold, there is not always a choice. However, I believe, you can give your soul choices, the body may not have.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Now you're starting to understand.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Uh, thanks. I've gotten it for quite a while.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
That wasn't coming across. Now it is, and that's a good thing!
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
So before you go lecturing about how bad some other place is, take care of your own house FIRST!
#20. To: mirage (#19)
Your claims that people are not responsible for their own actions just make you look like a fool.
#21. To: richard9151 (#20)
#22. To: richard9151 (#0)
I hope enough of you understand that this issue has nothing to do with cheap labor; it has to do with reducing America to the level of Mèxico so that the two nations can be joined together - along with Canada, of course - now, and later, merged into the NWO.
#23. To: All (#12)
#24. To: robin, mirage, Jethro Tull, all (#18)
To which immigration law are you referring?
#25. To: Mister Clean (#22)
Do you know where I can exchange my dollars for some Ameros?
#26. To: richard9151 (#25)
#27. To: mirage (#21)
Individuals are still responsible for their own actions. There is no amount of "But, the big bad evil NAFTA forced them to become gang members" that is even possible to believe.
#28. To: Calamity (#26)
All Dollars = 1 bag of dirt, and a T-shirt that reads: Dead Country Walking.
#29. To: richard9151 (#24)
#30. To: richard9151, REDPANTHER (#24)
PING TO POST
#31. To: mirage (#21)
Individuals are still responsible for their own actions. There is no amount of "But, the big bad evil NAFTA forced them to become gang members" that is even possible to believe.
#32. To: richard9151 (#24)
Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
#33. To: richard9151 (#27)
Jeez, not that old crap again.
#34. To: robin (#29)
I may have missed it, but I still don't see the law that disallows white immigrants.
#35. To: mirage (#33)
nobody is responsible for their own actions.
#36. To: Calamity, mirage (#32)
Then, should not Israel welcome Mexican immigration, and agree to pay for such. And enjoy the same benefit they seem want bestowed here?
#37. To: mirage (#33)
So, according to you, nobody is responsible for their own actions.
#38. To: richard9151 (#34)
It's fairly easy for someone from Europe/UK to immigrate here if they arrive first as a skilled worker. I've met Kiwis, Brits, a variety who became citizens that way. And there is a large Christian Ukrainian population in the Sacremento area, recent immigrants. There aren't that many oppressed whites, except maybe in Russia and parts of Eastern Europe.
#39. To: robin (#38)
I understand the quotas change from year to year.
#40. To: richard9151 (#39)
#41. To: robin (#40)
not that many White Europeans emigrate anywhere,
#42. To: swarthyguy (#41)
#43. To: richard9151, Calamity (#37)
June 7, 2007 10:19 PM
#44. To: richard9151 (#2)
Don`t discuss this with me; there have been posts on 4um describing how big meat processors ran buses to the border to pick up illegals, returned them to the meat-packing plants, dumped them off in front of the welfare/assisted housing government offices back near the meat packer's plants, and then hired them after they were all set-up.
#45. To: richard9151 (#25)
Not to worry....... coming soon, thanks to the US military, to a bank near you....
#46. To: Zipporah, mirage (#44)
Go to Georgia..and look at the poultry industry.. I was there a couple of years ago and a newspaper there reported that GA has the fastest going illegal population in the country and that includes of course CA
#47. To: Mister Clean (#45)
The military? What happened to Brinks?
#48. To: Zipporah (#44)
Zipporah
#49. To: mirage (#43)
You two guys are just apologists for bad behavior.
#50. To: Calamity (#49)
You must be drinking, or in need of an enema.
#51. To: richard9151 (#46)
AND, the violence on the Mèxico side of the border is spilling over from the US side, as the Latino gangs, which ALL started in the US, start to expand into Mèxico.
#52. To: mirage (#50)
(Edited)
Its called believing that people are responsible and accountable for their own actions.
#53. To: Calamity (#52)
#54. To: mirage (#53)
Your comments are, no offense intended, STUPID.
#55. To: Calamity (#54)
Sometime facts are stupid. Otherwise, one can believe that a mirage is real. No offense.
#56. To: mirage (#55)
Even when there is a gun leveled at your head, you still have a choice.
#57. To: Calamity (#56)
However, I believe, you can give your soul choices, the body may not have.
#58. To: mirage (#57)
Now you're starting to understand.
#59. To: Calamity (#58)
I've gotten it for quite a while.
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