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Title: Top Ten Reasons why I will not vote for Ron Paul
Source: stmachiavelli
URL Source: http://stmachiavelli.livejournal.com/1015290.html
Published: Jun 11, 2007
Author: stmachiavelli
Post Date: 2007-06-11 14:53:34 by can of corn
Keywords: al qaeda, standing for the twoof, shiny foil hat
Views: 2030
Comments: 141

1) He's a "truther" by association - He panders and plays to that group of people who believe the events of Sep 11, were an "inside job" without going so far as to say "Fire won't melt steel!"

2) He's called for a Mcarthiesque reopening of the 9/11 Commission, basing it this time on popular opinion, conspiracy theory, and politics rather than fact. - This one goes hand in hand with item 1.

3) He's selling the "We aren't hated because of our freedoms, we are hated because of our Middle Eastern Policies" without ever acknowledging that our polices there are in direct response to the past and current policies of nation states in the Middle East.

4) He's for gay marriage, but against gay adoption. - Here we are total polar opposites. I'm against gay marriage because it brings nothing to the state, but for gay adoption because any stable home for a child is better than a foster home or orphanage.

5) He's stated he'd like to go back to the "gold standard". - This makes baby economists weep.

6) He's against stem cell research

7) He's "touchy feely" when it comes to crime and punishment

8) He's against free trade (or at least his voting record is).

9) He's never seen a defense appropriation bill he liked. - Yes we can fight our enemies armed with sticks and stones!

10) He's pro "illegal immigration".

And lastly...

The ACLU likes him. Or more seriously, his voting record is a mess. Its almost like he's voted for and then against the same ideas in different bills just so he could appear to be a moderate or something.

As I believe actions (in this case votes) speak louder than campaign promises this makes it very difficult for me to believe what Ron really thinks.

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3) He's selling the "We aren't hated because of our freedoms, we are hated because of our Middle Eastern Policies" without ever acknowledging that our polices there are in direct response to the past and current policies of nation states in the Middle East.

I actually had to read this twice before I realized I have no idea what it means. Please explain.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-11   14:58:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull, cornhole my can, all (#1)

I actually had to read this twice before I realized I have no idea what it means. Please explain.

It's like this: Iranians hate us because we supplied arms to their arch enemy who then used those weapons, including WMDs, to slaughter hundreds of thousands of Iranians. But that was our "response" to Iran's taking US hostages and overthrowing the brutal dictator we installed there. If they hadn't insisted on self-government, but kept in place the puppet regime we installed, we'd never have had to arm their enemy and encourage him to attack them. So it's their fault.

And sure, they hate us for overthrowing their democratically elected president with our CIA, but that democratically elected president tried to put an end to the oil deal that had American and British companies sucking out their oil at pennies per barrel. If the Iranians hadn't tried to control their own oil, we wouldn't have had to overthrow their government. So that was their fault, too.

As for Iraq, sure we supplied Saddam for years and supported him, and we greenlighted his invasion of Kuwait. But he should have known better than to believe us or that our words meant anything. So the first Gulf War was his fault. As for the sanctions regime that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, if he'd abdicated and committed suicide, that wouldn't have had to happen. His fault again. As for the second Iraq war, well, Saddam could have denationalized his oil at any time and re-opened his oil fields to American companies. But he didn't, so we had to depose him and destroy his country, and besides, he never made nice with and/or surrendered his sovereignty to Israel. Again, his fault.

See, the regimes in the Middle East don't support our ambition to rule the world and take all of their resources, so it's their fault we have to invade, sanction, destroy and tommorrow (if Joe Lieberman is successful) bomb them.

Plus they were born in the wrong place and are of the wrong religion. What do they expect?

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-06-11   15:10:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluedogtxn (#7)

It's like this: Iranians hate us

unnnnhhhhh..

No. Because Iran was heading to aa struggling democracy and we toppled their government for BP and pout in Shah Rezi Pahlevi who might look cute to you but who brutalized his people.

All Arab nations, polled in detail before we stole their land and gave it to a bunch of Eastern European grubb-suckers who had never been there, preferred that the US administer any mandate for them than any TOTAL of all other countries. That is how well-loved and respected we were until the Big Lie that stole Palestine from the Palestinians.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-11   15:15:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: JCHarris (#9)

It's like this: Iranians hate us unnnnhhhhh..

No.

I think you may have taken my post other than in its intended spirit.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-06-11   15:24:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bluedogtxn (#15)

Not really BDT...

just point out the sword bedecked Shah was not the "Gentleman" most seem to think he was.

Actually I have no love whatsoever for any of the Middle Eastern Tribes and even less for the Eastern European Faux Tribe with its hand always out and its mouth stretched wide open in an incessant Victim Wail !

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-11   15:29:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: JCHarris (#16)

Not really BDT...

just point out the sword bedecked Shah was not the "Gentleman" most seem to think he was.

He was a brutal dictator who ran his country through SAVAK inspired terror, and we installed him in place of their democratically elected guy.

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