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Title: Top Ten Reasons why I will not vote for Ron Paul
Source: stmachiavelli
URL Source: http://stmachiavelli.livejournal.com/1015290.html
Published: Jun 11, 2007
Author: stmachiavelli
Post Date: 2007-06-11 14:53:34 by can of corn
Keywords: al qaeda, standing for the twoof, shiny foil hat
Views: 1846
Comments: 141

1) He's a "truther" by association - He panders and plays to that group of people who believe the events of Sep 11, were an "inside job" without going so far as to say "Fire won't melt steel!"

2) He's called for a Mcarthiesque reopening of the 9/11 Commission, basing it this time on popular opinion, conspiracy theory, and politics rather than fact. - This one goes hand in hand with item 1.

3) He's selling the "We aren't hated because of our freedoms, we are hated because of our Middle Eastern Policies" without ever acknowledging that our polices there are in direct response to the past and current policies of nation states in the Middle East.

4) He's for gay marriage, but against gay adoption. - Here we are total polar opposites. I'm against gay marriage because it brings nothing to the state, but for gay adoption because any stable home for a child is better than a foster home or orphanage.

5) He's stated he'd like to go back to the "gold standard". - This makes baby economists weep.

6) He's against stem cell research

7) He's "touchy feely" when it comes to crime and punishment

8) He's against free trade (or at least his voting record is).

9) He's never seen a defense appropriation bill he liked. - Yes we can fight our enemies armed with sticks and stones!

10) He's pro "illegal immigration".

And lastly...

The ACLU likes him. Or more seriously, his voting record is a mess. Its almost like he's voted for and then against the same ideas in different bills just so he could appear to be a moderate or something.

As I believe actions (in this case votes) speak louder than campaign promises this makes it very difficult for me to believe what Ron really thinks.

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#23. To: can of corn (#0)

10) He's pro "illegal immigration".

LIAR.

FormerLurker  posted on  2007-06-11   15:45:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

10) He's pro "illegal immigration".

LIAR.

And that little piece of disingenuousness just got canofcrap bozod. Another lie- posting shill like BAC; someone not here to debate honestly, but to spam, shill and obfuscate with lies.

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-11   18:34:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And that little piece of disingenuousness just got canofcrap bozod.

I always love replying to petulant folks who wish to ignore me. Actually, you're right. I think Ron Paul would like to toss illegal families and their children into the Rio Grande and say "swim for it and don't come back."

So, I'd be interested to know where the author is coming from.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-11   18:38:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I always love replying to petulant folks who wish to ignore me. Actually, you're right. I think Ron Paul would like to toss illegal families and their children into the Rio Grande and say "swim for it and don't come back."

You and your bosses are scared white.

As well you should be.

Paul's integrity and sterling reputation is so far beyond your ability to ding that you are reduced to posting gibberish hoping something, anything will be interpreted as legit and well founded. Paul has delivered thousands of babies, perhaps hundreds at no charge for poor patients, many of them Hispanic. He's never uttered a mean spirited statement in over twenty years that I've followed his career. Your attempt at character assassination is a bit ambitious for someone with your obvious limitations, and everything Paul says and does is completely consistent with his (and our) desire to restore our republic.

You implied that he votes differently on the same bills, but if you weren't a political dilettante you'd know that even sponsors of bills vote against undesirable amendments or motions for cloture or rules suspension.

He doesn't vote against a bill after voting for it (or vice versa) if it is substantially intact and unchanged, (no cloak room skullduggery) and I challenge you to cite one example and prove this statement false. So, you fling non specific poo which is not only unworthy of serious debate but impossible to dispute since you carefully avoid specifics.

Try this. Tell us who you support and why so we can dismiss you. Obviously there isn't an announced candidate anywhere that you dare juxtapose with Paul, and your failure to offer a name is no oversight. (CLUE: Rumsfeld is not a candidate, and he couldn't get elected to the job of chief fluffer in the shower at Leavenworth which is where he is going if he doesn't expire first.)

I'm guessing that you work for H&R Block and you're petrified of having to do honest labor, perhaps even heavy lifting once the totally useless tax prep industry is dismantled.

Am I right?

Since misrepresentation born of desperation flows so readily from your fingers it's quite logical to assume that you are a pack rat for IRS receipts or some other equally disreputable swindle.

So, your intellectual dishonesty + political schizophrenia = non producing bureaucrat and enemy of the constitution, and therefore the enemy of freedom loving patriots.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-12   8:46:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't want a President who believes the best way not to be attacked by Islamic terrorists is to allow them to dictate our foreign policy.

He is out of touch with the 21st Century.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-12   9:03:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Again with the slippery?

Let me try again.

Who....

Do....

You....

Want?

No offense, but you cannot offer a frontal assault and simultaneously cower away from exposing your true agenda if you expect to be anything other than an object of political whimsy here.

This isn't a Pauly Shore movie, my young friend. Sooner or later you have to make a bold, hairy-chested move and say something or, once you're humor potential has been exhausted we'll simply lose interest in you.

And, believe me, that's a chilly place where no self respecting person would ever want to find her or himself.

"I'm Barnacle Bill The Sailor...."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-12   9:16:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Who....

Do....

You....

Want?

Thompson, Romney, Giuiliani

In that order.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-12   9:18:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thompson, Romney, Giuiliani

In that order.

During a May 3, 2007 presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Thompson said in response to a question from moderator Chris Matthews that a private employer opposed to homosexuality should have the right to fire a gay worker.[1] He said "I think that is left up to the individual business. I really sincerely believe that that is an issue that business people have got to make their own determination as to whether or not they should be." He called CNN the following morning to say he didn't hear the question correctly. He apologized, saying "It's not my position. There should be no discrimination in the workplace."_wiki

Didn't you use the phrase "McCarthyesque"?

Americans won't vote for any candidate from Tail Gunner Joe's home state. Especially one who wants to biochip us all for the convenience of govt slave drivers.

Try again.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-12   9:40:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

FRED Thompson, Not Tommy.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-12   9:48:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

FRED Thompson, Not Tommy.

So then, why Fred?

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-12   9:52:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So then, why Fred?

He supports low taxes and a limitred intrusiveness of the Federal government.

He has realistic positions on free trade.

He beilieves abortion should be an issue left to the States.

He doesn't subscribe to kooky environmental alsrmism.

He supports the right to bear arms.

He will fight the war on Islamic extremists.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-12   10:13:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He has realistic positions on free trade.

I'd like free trade to be defined here for the purpose of discussing this further.

I'm totally against free trade if free trade means that no tariffs are paid on goods imported into the USA.

Critter  posted on  2007-06-12   10:29:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm totally against free trade if free trade means that no tariffs are paid on goods imported into the USA.

I won't necessarily say no tariffs, but they should definitely be minimized. Why do we want to penalize consumers by subsidizing unprofitable American businesses?

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-12   11:42:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why do we want to penalize consumers by subsidizing unprofitable American businesses?

Why do we want to penalize American citizens by making them pay an income tax to run a government that is supposed to be funded by tariffs?

Critter  posted on  2007-06-12   14:12:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#91. To: Critter (#90)

Especially when the income tax is imposed on domestic manufacturers, but not foreign ones, when a tariff does just the opposite.

In fact, the income tax operates as a negative tariff that discourages domestic enterprise. We ought at the least to have tariffs high enough to counterbalance this effect.

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-12 14:18:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And you think the average American consumer is going to gladly want tariffs after he learns how much he will have to pay?

You could not place tariffs high enough to replace our income tax system with them. In fact if you tried, you'd have to place tariffs so high that foreign products would be priced out of the market place with heir import being dried up. You'd have to have other means of revenue anyway PLUS the consumer would be screwed.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-12 14:45:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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