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Title: A Dictionary for the "9/11 Truth Movement"
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Published: Jun 13, 2007
Author: untrue_madhouse.blogspot
Post Date: 2007-06-13 08:53:36 by can of corn
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Alloyal subject: Person who regards as sacred the creed that steel is perfectly rigid until it melts. Alternative theory: Something so wacky that even Twoofers don't give it much credence (e. g. holographic planes, pods). Beam Weapon: A currently non-existent quantum weapon that entered our dimension during a 3-hour period on 9/11/2001 and got a space woody for steel-framed buildings and five-sided buildings. Oh, and half of some automobiles. Then it winked out of existence and is not included in the 9/11 Omission Report. Bermass - a loud-mouthed conspiracy theorist. "When all he did was yell 'liar liar' over and over, I knew the guy was a bermass" bollyn (v.) - The act of noticing a strange car outside your house, assuming it's FBI, calling the police, having the people in the car tell you're they're just undercover local cops, not believing them, threatening them, telling them you're going into the house to get a weapon, getting arrested, losing your job, and then blaming it all on the Jews. Usage Note: Because of the low likelihood of anyone actually being stupid enough to do all these things, the word may be used in a looser sense to describe any attempt to blame a personal misfortune on some shadowy world-domination entity, when it was really your own stupid fault. "Example: All the 9/11 Denier candidates for Congress lost, so they'll probably try to bollyn the results off on Diebold." Brainwashing: non-conspiratorial thinking, thought processes which involve documented information and scientific data Censorship: Practiced by the Zionist-controlled MSM (qv), censorship is supposedly the real reason the Twoof (tm) hasn't already brought down the government. The fact that virtually all of the Twoofers' so-called evidence is nonsensical is utterly irrelevant. Controlled Demolition: A process initiated by thermite causing large buildings to spread debris in all directions damaging nearby structures. Disasterbate - Convincing oneself that a major event is actually a government conspiracy. Usually involves ignoring evidence, quote mining, and watching internet conspiracy movies. "After he heard about the explosion, he couldn't wait to get home and disasterbate. Mutual Disasterbation - When one conspiracy theorist uses another conspiracy theorist to validate his own crazy speculations. "The Loose Change forums are a den of mutual disasterbation" Dodgic(n) : thought process and reasoning used by twoofers. Involves attempting to change the subject when faced with facts that destroy their assertions (usually by starting a new discussion, or posting heaps of links or pasting complete articles of ahumptions irrelevant to the matter at hand). Duhmerican fRepress - An entirely reLIEable source. A good publication to cite when one needs to repress actual facts. Evidence: (pronounced "ev-ee-dense," cf. David Ray Griffin) facts from scientific studies or direct observation that agree with the conspiracy theorist's pet theory. Evirense (n.) - Proof of a conspiracy claim that traces back to a conspiracy website that freely admits it has no editorial standards whatsoever. Evidense (n) : 1. misinterpreted data. e.g. photos of steel beams cut during the clean-up said to be evidence of umplosions (q.v.) such as *therm*te ; 2. coinvidence(s) (q.v.), ahumption(s) (q.v.). Evidence,"Planted" : any real, actual, physical evidence really, actually, physically located at the scene, that disproves a given conspiracy theory and cannot be explained away by holograms, CGI, starwars space beams, etc. Expert Someone with no training in a particular field but who can issue analyses that dispute all the so-called experts. So-called Experts Someone not to be believed just because they have advanced degrees and years of experience in a particular field. To expose: to slander, smear, or make false accusations Facts Misinterpretations of things that appear in videos. False Flag -- name for those mysterious and unidentifiable people who are responsible for every misfortune, from double-parking to 9/11, when Twoofers can't provide documented proof to blame their nemeses. Freefall: A speed roughly equivalent to the speed of gravity. The government: did it! Government shill: someone who disagrees or challenges one's pet theory; any normal person Government Shill - What you call the other guy when he is winning the argument. the Holy Concrete Grail: building core mysteriously visible only to those pure and worthy enough to experience it. Illuminatichoke: Kind of mental vegetable that feeds on nebulous concepts of "them". Impervect: 1. Person who never stops to try to visualise the forces acting on a struck building after the initial impact has dissipated (gravity), and the direction in which it acts (downwards). 2. Unable to comprehend the concept of vectors. "I've read the NIST report" - "I've either never seen or don't understand the NIST report" Just Asking Questions means Not Wanting Answers JAQing off - 1. the act of spouting accusations while cowardly hiding behind the claim of "just asking questions". 2. asking questions and ignoring the answers. "He said he was going to present evidence, but instead he was just JAQing off." Keeblergonomics - a little known branch of science based on make-believe, tree-dwelling, cookie-making elves (see also: elfisics) "The towers should have toppled like a tree based on these keeblergonomical calculations." Kook-a-like - Concluding one event is exactly the same as another event that looks-a-like Law of 100% If a witness recollection isn't 100 per cent accurate then he/she should be dismissed totally. Says What I Want to Hear Corollary Except if anything that the witness says agrees with the troofer. Media, Mainstream: Usually implied to be under the control of Zionists (see below). Generally deemed by Twoofers to be unreliable except when reports support a particular theory. Erroneous early reports in the MSM, particularly ones that can be spun as sinister (dancing Israelis, surviving hijackers, etc.) are immediately seized upon as gospel. Media, Independent: Bastions of journalistic integrity such as Prisonplanet, AFP, Killtown's blog, etc. These are usually assumed to have the "inside story", whatever that might be. Mexpert: Kind of layman who suddenly becomes omniscient about any number of disciplines after a gallon and a half of Dos Equis and a burrito. Misinformation: facts from scientific studies or direct observation that disagree with the conspiracy theorist's pet theory. Patriot: cop-hater Peer review paper - Posting one theories on the internet and having fellow troofers agree with you. Plane crazy: Unable to appreciate that a fully-loaded airliner crashing into a building might do considerable damage. Professional engineer - Disinfo agent Research: watching YouTube clips over and over again Kevin Ryan - President of UL, the company that stamped the WTC towers, certifying that they would stand forever barring use of a thermite initiated controlled demolition. Sheep/Sheeple -- Not to be confused with shill, a sheep is someone who refuses to examine the evidence and your analysis of it, or is too simple minded to comprehend it. You can tell they have not paid attention to the Truth™ because they do not believe the Truth™ (naturally anyone who has seen your evidence cant help but be convinced, because no one has higher standard of evidence than the truth movement) Slowblind: Unable to realise that very large objects seen from a long way away seem to be moving much slower than they really are. Smoking gun: any peculiarity or anomaly in the official story, misconstrued as proof of an elaborate conspiracy Speed of gravity: the speed at which the Twin Towers fell; halfway between the speed of the dust and that of the squibs. Thermaphrodite (n.) - A high-temperature incendiary compound that contains elements of both thermite and thermite, and constantly changes between the two Trolled demolition: Activity carried out by faceless minions who seek to dispose of sensible arguments by endless nonsense. Truth: Anything I say; not what you say. And... and... You can't tell me what to say! You don't own me! It's a free country and ... and.... my mommy said we are allowed to speak our opinions, in America. So there, Poopy Head! Truth movement: Group of angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80s, joined by their common hatred of GWB and general sense of powerlessness. Very Interesting means something is a small minor anomaly to regular human beings but proof of massive conspiracy to troofers. Victim - a person alternately pitied or accused of being deeply involved in a conspiracy to murder thousands depending on context, audience, and time elapsed since last dose of medication; see also firefighter Violating the laws of physics - From studying the evidence, events occured in conformance with scientific law, but since I've never actually taken a science course I'm much too dumb to understand. Waking up to the Truth: Having a complete mental breakdown, with permanent impairment of higher cognitive functions. Within their own footprint: Any large undefined area around a controlled demolition. Woo-dunit (n.) - a narrative dealing with a well-understood murder or series of murders, in which conspiracy theorists attempt to determine what shadowy global-domination group was really behind it all. Rhymes with "whodunit." WTCing is believing: Adage expressing the ability to interpret visual information any number of ways but the sensible one. The X-Files: A factural serial documentary about how the government operates and what technology it possesses Youtube - The world's leading consortium of scientific evidence. Zionists: JOOOOOS
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#13. To: christine (#11)
"The towers collapse looked exactly like explosive demolitions." No they didn't. It's the "where." When discussing similarities between the towers' collapse and an explosive demolition, many people overlook the single question most central to any objective investigation. It is not "how" or "when" the buildings failed, but "where" they failed. That answer holds the key to understanding almost everything that occurred at Ground Zero. Since their inception in the late 1800s, blasting engineers have understood that building implosions work best when the forces of gravity are maximized. This Is why blasters always concentrate their efforts on the lowest floors of a structure. While smaller supplemental charges can be placed on upper floors to facilitate breakage and maximize control as the structure collapses, every implosion ever performed has followed the basic model of obliterating structural supports on the bottom few floors first, "to get the structure moving." This was not the case with the collapse of Towers 1 and 2. Close examination of these events from every video and photographic angle available does not indicate failure originating from the lowest floors, rather clearly shows each building beginning to fail at precisely the point where the respective planes struck. That is, no floors above or below the impact points ever move until the structural elements within the impact zone begin to collapse (WTC 7 collapsed differently, which we will cover later). Furthermore, there are no independent failures present while the structures are collapsing (we're not talking dust plumes or debris, but actual structural failure). All lower floors remained completely intact until they were consumed by the collapse from above. Because countless images confirm this assessment and none contradict it, we believe this fact to be visually indisputable. Therefore, for explosives to be considered as a primary or supplemental catalyst, one would have to accept that either, a) dozens of charges were placed on those exact impact floors in advance and survived the violent initial explosions and 1100+ degree Fahrenheit fires, or b) while the fires were burning, charges were installed undetected throughout the impact floors and wired together, ostensibly by people hiding in the buildings with boxes of explosives. There is no third choice that could adequately explain explosives causing failure at the exact impact points. The chemical properties of explosives and their reaction to heat render scenario A scientifically impossible and scenario B remarkably unlikely, as we know of no explosive compound that could withstand such force and/or heat without detaching from the columns or simply burning off prior to detonation. There are other problems with both scenarios: Given the consistent weight distribution around the outer perimeter of each structure, one would have needed access to a prohibitively large quantity of load-bearing I-beam columns to allow "cutter charges" to initiate failure. Those columns would have needed extensive preparation, also known as "pre-burning", to allow the explosives to perform their function. And in order to prepare the columns you first had to be able to see the columns, which means at least partially removing the outer-perimeter interior walls of all blast floors, including furniture, plumbing and conduit lines, insulation, etc. All of this would have been performed within the 55 minutes between plane impact and collapse - working in an environment of unspeakable heat and destruction - or have been performed completely undetected, in advance, on multiple floors in both buildings, while suffering no adverse effects from the planes' impact with these same areas. This is impossible.
You government fairy tale shills are all the same. You go into vast explanations of how it would have been difficult to impossible to rig the building with explosives, and how it would take so long and require so much explosive material that it would take an army of engineers and demolition experts to get the job done, and then say that cutting a few columns and starting a fire did the job just fine in under an hour. LMFAO!!!! Christine, ain't it time to can the corn?
you are imitating BAC here. be original or we will replace you with a new kook.
Here is the Newsday excerpt: Heightened Security Alert Had Just Been Lifted By Curtis L. Taylor and Sean Gardiner STAFF WRITERS September 12, 2001 The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday, bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. "Today was the first day there was not the extra security," Coard said. "We were protecting below. We had the ground covered. We didn't figure they would do it with planes. There is no way anyone could have stopped that."
Ron Paul. President. Spread the Word.
Who do you think did the Anthrax terrorist caper and why haven't "they" been caught?? And for extra credit explain how/why WTC 7 came down.
Ron Paul. President. Spread the Word.
The city refunded Larry's 'investment,' in the end - go figure!
One of those dancing movers picked up in New Jersey admitted later that they were there "to document the event." So much for your "no foreknowledge" schtick. Not a big deal, he has the entire complex to use as collateral. I don't think he will be turned down on any financing arrangement. He still makes out like a thief no matter how you cut it.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
So this is the absurd level you take a logical argument? I know nothing about controlled demolitions, nor do you, but I do become suspicious when buildings, steel buildings, collapse related to a fire that cannot reach the necessary temperature to melt steel. Add to this the strange case of a van stopped in NJ on Sept. 11 that contained five (?) JOOOOOOOS and blasting equiptment. IIRC, some if not all, of the occupants had connections to the Mossad and/or the IDF. WTF is that about, or does political correctness stop you from looking at suspicious activity b/c the possible perps are JOOOOOOOOOOOOS?
Every single person who pointed a camera at the WTCs were there to "document the event," and none had foreknowledge.
The buildings collapsed at the exact point of airplane impact. So which is it: Did someone preplant demolitions at the exact point of plane impact, the pilots were skilled enough to hit these exact locations, and the explosives survived the impact or was somenone in the building planting explosives in 55 minutes after the impact?
This is demonstrable of the prep work required to perform a controlled demolition In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation system. As the implosion required the detonation of a total of 2,728 lb. of explosives, CDI implemented 36 “primary delays" and an additional 216 “micro-delays" in the implosion initiation sequence in an attempt to keep detonation overpressure to a minimum.
Ask the firemen on the scene who were sure collapse was imminent dur to the structural damage: First responder: "You see where the white smoke is? You see this thing leaning like this? It's definitely coming down. There's no way to stop it. Cause you have to go up in there to put it out and it already - the structural integrity is just not there in the building. It's tough, it's.. it's.. You know we can handle just about anything, this is beyond...
So you've went beyond suggecting that a bomb was planted in a closet of the WTC, to what u consider an impossible timeline. So Bush of you.
No, I suggested that a controlled demolition could not have gone unnoticed because it is not as simple as placing a suitcase in a closet. I then provided an example of whatit would really take for a controlled demolition.
OK, so we're back to how does steel melt given the temp of fuel.
Why is anyone wasting their time with this pantload?
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
it doesn't need to melt. From the 911 truther dictionary: Alloyal subject: Person who regards as sacred the creed that steel is perfectly rigid until it melts.
Great job. I can tell that you spent all day working on this masterpiece. All we need now is a dictionary to translate the ranting of gullible rubes who thought that Saddam Hussein was about the invade the United States (with the help of his WMD's, of course) back in 2003.
By the way my new little pal, unlike my family members who enjoy big meals with lots of different things on their plates, I eat like a railyard hobo, and I'm as happy as I can be eating only one item for dinner. And, guess what my fave dinner item, my absolute first choice for dinner is? You guessed it-a can of corn! I'm not kidding, either. When the little woman and the sperms are eating steaks, potatoes, broccoli and biscuits, I'm eating nothing but a whole can of corn! Try not to spoil it for me, okay? I mean, you're not gonna spring your enthusiastic support for "abolishing the 22nd amendment and making Bush emperor for life" on us next, are ya? :) Gee, I'm glad we had this chat! ;)
The government shills are indefatigable. And as soon as you get rid of one, two more pop up in their place. This is what happens when a government is taken over by deeply evil people, they use your money and your resources against you to spew lies, misinformation and disinformation. And if this shill is banned, two more will pop up in its place. Somewhere there's a government funded boiler room filled with vile twerps and creeps who get their marching orders from the RNC and who then post endless spam on every thread they can find to pollute with their think- tank generated pabulum. It's not enough that the mass media is totally owned and controlled by corporate lackeys, oh no, they have to take over every internet forum and thread they can find as well. Eh, at least we're not being treated to endless repeats of "ROTFLOL LMBO LMAOROFLOL" etc. And we're not being treated to endless repeats of "KOOKS!" either, so at least we can take some pleasure in that.
#14. To: can of corn, Christine (#13)
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#15. To: can of corn (#13)
#16. To: can of corn (#13)
...or have been performed completely undetected, in advance,...
#17. To: can of corn (#13)
#18. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#1)
#19. To: can of corn (#2)
There was some investigation into what Israeli inteeligence might have known. But there is no evidence that the celebrating Jews or anyone else had foreknowledge of the attacks (the Jews deny celebrating).
Silverstein received less than 5 billion dollars to be used to rebuild the WTC complex. The estimated cost to rebuild is over 6 billion dollars. Hardly a bargain for him.
#20. To: can of corn (#5)
Because you can't just go do a controlled demolition by hiding a suitcase bomb in a closet.
#21. To: BTP Holdings (#19)
One of those dancing movers picked up in New Jersey admitted later that they were there "to document the event."
#22. To: Critter (#14)
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#20)
#24. To: wbales (#17)
And for extra credit explain how/why WTC 7 came down.
#25. To: can of corn (#23)
#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
So you've went beyond suggecting that a bomb was planted in a closet of the WTC, to what u consider an impossible timeline. So Bush of you.
#27. To: can of corn (#26)
#28. To: christine (#10)
#29. To: Kamala (#28)
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
so we're back to how does steel melt given the temp of fuel.
#31. To: can of corn (#0)
#32. To: can of corn, Zipporah, robin, rowdee, christine, lodwick, Jethro Tull, JC Harris (#12)
#33. To: Critter (#14)
 | Capitalism is NOT an economic system, it's a RELIGION for ASSHOLES! |
#34. To: Elliott Jackalope (#33)
that's how it goes when they get financing.
The government shills are indefatigable
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
#35. To: Elliott Jackalope (#33)
From the 911 Twoofer dictionary: Government shill: someone who disagrees or challenges one's pet theory; any normal person Government Shill - What you call the other guy when he is winning the argument.
The government shills are indefatigable.
#36. To: can of corn (#35)
that's so stupid
Twoofer
#37. To: can of corn (#30) (Edited)
The problem is this: No mathematician or other egghead will dare publish the crunched numbers or write about this because no steel framed building has ever collapsed from fire in the history of the world, and then suddenly three that are heavily insured by the same landlord (and only two which are hit by planes) collapse, fell into their own footprints spilling over when no other place to pile up was available (when the debris was nearly as high as the footprint was square and wide) with additional statistically anonymous exceptions the steel beams broke into pieces no longer than 24 feet, the max length to be loaded onto full length combination rigs for hauling. Well, these odds are so ridiculous that, A) they are mathematical and therefore physical impossibilities, and, B) it is certain to result in suspicious and untimely death(s) for the private person(s) or tank thinker(s) who dared to demonstrate that (unless statistical science is completely disregarded along with the laws of physics, which also do not apply to BushCo) that BushCo and persons unknown are participants in the most evil, deadly and costly acts of treason in the history of the blue planet. Just as the rules of evidence, (i.e. chain of custody as well as adherence to federal and state criminal statutes and the expressed wishes of many experts to investigate were deliberately and maliciously thwarted and disregarded, and just as the trucks hauling evidence were GPS-tagged and monitored until the steel was on ships steaming for third world recycling mills and the rubble was dumped in areas accessible to the public (after which the chain of evidence was broken and plausible deniability could be invoked in the future to protect the lies from strong, disinfecting sunlight) well, these facts alone would bring US officials and possibly other complicit governments to their knees, and no scientist or credentialed numbers cruncher would dare to expose the truth if she or he loves anyone or anything, because those beloved persons and/or objects could be taken and flushed away forever, along with nearly 3000 other lost souls who are apparently unworthy of the energy expended to investigate your average synagogue vandalism. Do you think that no one did the math because the methodology doesn't exist or that it was mere oversight? This regime has proven that the principals will stop at nothing to silence critics and legit investigators, and, just as howling hoardes of "experts" on steel building collapses from fire have surfaced, so would armies of statisticians who would rewrite the mathematical and statistical laws to prove that Bush is the most honest man in the world and that's why G_d talks to him. And, no matter how compelling and indisputable the evidence, the same BushCo lickspittles, military industrial contractors and paranoid Israel-first dogmaticians would be here, swearing that first you talk to Bush and then you nip and tuck to align pseudo sciences to fit his ever evolving account of that terrible day.
it doesn't need to melt.
#38. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
OUTSTANDING!!!
Just as the rules of evidence, (.e. chain of custody as well as adherence to federal and state criminal statutes and the expressed wishes of many experts to investigate were deliberately and maliciously thwarted and disregarded, and just as the trucks hauling evidence were GPS-tagged and monitored until the steel was on ships steaming for third world recycling mills and the rubble was dumped in areas accessible to the public (after which the chain of evidence was broken and plausible deniability could be invoked in the future to protect the lies from strong, disinfecting sunlight) well, these facts alone would bring US officials and possibly other complicit governments to their knees, and no scientist or credentialed numbers cruncher would dare to expose the truth if she or he loves anyone or anything, because those beloved persons and/or objects could be taken and flushed away forever, along with nearly 3000 other lost souls who are apparently unworthy of the energy expended to investigate your average synagogue vandalism.
#39. To: christine (#38)
Thank you.
#40. To: can of corn (#21) (Edited)
LIAR! Take your pick from the following search results as proof of your lie! Every single person who pointed a camera at the WTCs were there to "document the event," and none had foreknowledge.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#41. To: can of corn (#35) (Edited)
to be honest, you are not doing very well. you need to be more lively and you need to stop imitating BAC. call up some of ponchey's old post and see how he did it. he was a pretty good site kook. also, i think you should put the squirrel picture on your home page. you are not nearly as entertaining as you should be.
#42. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
Like fire that can weaken steel enough to bring down re-enforced skyscrapers to their founddations but not singe the corner of the Hijacker's passport? All I know is, whatever those ID papers were made out of, I want to use that material to build my next house and car. And don't get me started on the NORAD exersizes on the same day covering the same terrorist situation. No matter what happened, 9/11 is a huge embaresment for FEDGOV. That's why the Statist shills are attacking anyone who questions the offical line in an attempt to deflect critizism away from the beloved state.
odds are so ridiculous
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
#43. To: can of corn (#22)
I think the core was attacked in several key areas with explosives set beforehand.
Enemies of the Republic
#44. To: can of corn (#30)
Steel that loses strength from being heated does not fail catastrophically. It fails slowly and gradually.
Alloyal subject: Person who regards as sacred the creed that steel is perfectly rigid until it melts.
Enemies of the Republic
#45. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
"Debris removed from Ground Zero - particularly the large steel columns from towers #1 and 2 - were quickly shipped overseas to prevent independent examination or scrutiny." PROTEC COMMENT: Not according to those who handled the steel. The large steel support members extracted from Ground Zero were handled differently than other debris, mostly because of their size and quantity (this type of initial separation increases jobsite efficiency and is not unusual on demolition projects). Once the steel was extracted and/or cut away from other debris, it was piled in staging areas just outside the work zone. These piles were then loaded onto trucks that transported them a few blocks north to a secondary staging area on the Hudson River. Cranes transferred the steel from the trucks onto barges, which were shipped to Fresh Kills Landfill in Staten Island. At this point it transferred into the control of Yannuzzi Demolition, whose team was responsible for off-loading the barges and storing the steel in an area separate from general debris arriving on other barges. It was then examined and cataloged by a series of forensic investigators, city officials and site managers. Some time later (the timing varied due to logistical factors), the steel was shipped off site to China. Our research team can personally verify the Lower Manhattan chain of possession, as we witnessed and documented this chain. We then reviewed activities that occurred at Fresh Kills by speaking with John Yannuzzi, President of Yannuzzi Demolition. Our team also reviewed commentary made by Dennis Dannenfelser, Yannuzzi's Fresh Kills Site Supervisor, who oversaw the entire operation from start to finish and spoke candidly and extensively at the National Demolition Association's annual Convention in March 2003. According to all parties, the steel went through the same series of steps as it would have on any other demolition project, albeit on a larger scale and with an increased presence of examiners. No one we spoke with perceived an attempt to 'tush'' or hide the process, and to the opposite, dozens if not hundreds of unrelated individuals - working for various entities and possessing various types of expertise - came in close contact with the steel over a period of months before it was eventually shipped overseas. In consideration of these first-hand experiences and interviews, and absent any dissenting commentary, we can find nothing to support this assertion.
#46. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
#47. To: Critter (#44)
And why do you think that was any different here? Do you expect to see visual evidence of gradual bowing and weakening of the supporting trusses? Oh, wait maybe there is some after all: Steel that loses strength from being heated does not fail catastrophically. It fails slowly and gradually.
#48. To: BTP Holdings (#40)
Thanks for directing me to you anti-Semite propaganda site. There is still nothing there that documents anybody had foreknowledge of the attacks.
#49. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)
From the twoofer dictionary: Expert: Someone with no training in a particular field but who can issue analyses that dispute all the so-called experts. So-called Experts: Someone not to be believed just because they have advanced degrees and years of experience in a particular field.
ust as howling hoardes of "experts"
#50. To: can of corn (#47)
You are BeALoser redux, it seems. Those photos have been debunked. Try again.
Enemies of the Republic
#51. To: can of corn (#48)
Fuck you, you stupid son of a bitch. You are history. Hope you like the filter, BOZO!
Thanks for directing me to you anti-Semite propaganda site.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
#52. To: Critter (#50)
No, they haven't. They've been rationalized by those who refuse to accept any other explanation than Bush and the Joos blew up the WTCs.
Those photos have been debunked. Try again.
#53. To: BTP Holdings (#51)
LOL Somebody didn't use his hemmorhoid cream.
Fuck you, you stupid son of a bitch. You are history. Hope you like the filter, BOZO!
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