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Title: A Dictionary for the "9/11 Truth Movement"
Source: untrue_madhouse.blogspot
URL Source: http://untrue_madhouse.blogspot.com ... ry-for-911-truth-movement.html
Published: Jun 13, 2007
Author: untrue_madhouse.blogspot
Post Date: 2007-06-13 08:53:36 by can of corn
Keywords: None
Views: 643
Comments: 58

Alloyal subject: Person who regards as sacred the creed that steel is perfectly rigid until it melts.

Alternative theory: Something so wacky that even Twoofers don't give it much credence (e. g. holographic planes, pods).

Beam Weapon: A currently non-existent quantum weapon that entered our dimension during a 3-hour period on 9/11/2001 and got a space woody for steel-framed buildings and five-sided buildings. Oh, and half of some automobiles. Then it winked out of existence and is not included in the 9/11 Omission Report.

Bermass - a loud-mouthed conspiracy theorist. "When all he did was yell 'liar liar' over and over, I knew the guy was a bermass"

bollyn (v.) - The act of noticing a strange car outside your house, assuming it's FBI, calling the police, having the people in the car tell you're they're just undercover local cops, not believing them, threatening them, telling them you're going into the house to get a weapon, getting arrested, losing your job, and then blaming it all on the Jews. Usage Note: Because of the low likelihood of anyone actually being stupid enough to do all these things, the word may be used in a looser sense to describe any attempt to blame a personal misfortune on some shadowy world-domination entity, when it was really your own stupid fault. "Example: All the 9/11 Denier candidates for Congress lost, so they'll probably try to bollyn the results off on Diebold."

Brainwashing: non-conspiratorial thinking, thought processes which involve documented information and scientific data

Censorship: Practiced by the Zionist-controlled MSM (qv), censorship is supposedly the real reason the Twoof (tm) hasn't already brought down the government. The fact that virtually all of the Twoofers' so-called evidence is nonsensical is utterly irrelevant.

Controlled Demolition: A process initiated by thermite causing large buildings to spread debris in all directions damaging nearby structures.

Disasterbate - Convincing oneself that a major event is actually a government conspiracy. Usually involves ignoring evidence, quote mining, and watching internet conspiracy movies. "After he heard about the explosion, he couldn't wait to get home and disasterbate.

Mutual Disasterbation - When one conspiracy theorist uses another conspiracy theorist to validate his own crazy speculations. "The Loose Change forums are a den of mutual disasterbation"

Dodgic(n) : thought process and reasoning used by twoofers. Involves attempting to change the subject when faced with facts that destroy their assertions (usually by starting a new discussion, or posting heaps of links or pasting complete articles of ahumptions irrelevant to the matter at hand).

Duhmerican fRepress - An entirely reLIEable source. A good publication to cite when one needs to repress actual facts.

Evidence: (pronounced "ev-ee-dense," cf. David Ray Griffin) facts from scientific studies or direct observation that agree with the conspiracy theorist's pet theory.

Evirense (n.) - Proof of a conspiracy claim that traces back to a conspiracy website that freely admits it has no editorial standards whatsoever.

Evidense (n) : 1. misinterpreted data. e.g. photos of steel beams cut during the clean-up said to be evidence of umplosions (q.v.) such as *therm*te ; 2. coinvidence(s) (q.v.), ahumption(s) (q.v.).

Evidence,"Planted" : any real, actual, physical evidence really, actually, physically located at the scene, that disproves a given conspiracy theory and cannot be explained away by holograms, CGI, starwars space beams, etc.

Expert Someone with no training in a particular field but who can issue analyses that dispute all the so-called experts.

So-called Experts Someone not to be believed just because they have advanced degrees and years of experience in a particular field.

To expose: to slander, smear, or make false accusations

Facts Misinterpretations of things that appear in videos.

False Flag -- name for those mysterious and unidentifiable people who are responsible for every misfortune, from double-parking to 9/11, when Twoofers can't provide documented proof to blame their nemeses.

Freefall: A speed roughly equivalent to the speed of gravity.

The government: did it!

Government shill: someone who disagrees or challenges one's pet theory; any normal person

Government Shill - What you call the other guy when he is winning the argument.

the Holy Concrete Grail: building core mysteriously visible only to those pure and worthy enough to experience it.

Illuminatichoke: Kind of mental vegetable that feeds on nebulous concepts of "them".

Impervect: 1. Person who never stops to try to visualise the forces acting on a struck building after the initial impact has dissipated (gravity), and the direction in which it acts (downwards). 2. Unable to comprehend the concept of vectors.

"I've read the NIST report" - "I've either never seen or don't understand the NIST report"

Just Asking Questions means Not Wanting Answers

JAQing off - 1. the act of spouting accusations while cowardly hiding behind the claim of "just asking questions". 2. asking questions and ignoring the answers. "He said he was going to present evidence, but instead he was just JAQing off."

Keeblergonomics - a little known branch of science based on make-believe, tree-dwelling, cookie-making elves (see also: elfisics) "The towers should have toppled like a tree based on these keeblergonomical calculations."

Kook-a-like - Concluding one event is exactly the same as another event that looks-a-like

Law of 100% If a witness recollection isn't 100 per cent accurate then he/she should be dismissed totally.

Says What I Want to Hear Corollary Except if anything that the witness says agrees with the troofer.

Media, Mainstream: Usually implied to be under the control of Zionists (see below). Generally deemed by Twoofers to be unreliable except when reports support a particular theory. Erroneous early reports in the MSM, particularly ones that can be spun as sinister (dancing Israelis, surviving hijackers, etc.) are immediately seized upon as gospel.

Media, Independent: Bastions of journalistic integrity such as Prisonplanet, AFP, Killtown's blog, etc. These are usually assumed to have the "inside story", whatever that might be.

Mexpert: Kind of layman who suddenly becomes omniscient about any number of disciplines after a gallon and a half of Dos Equis and a burrito.

Misinformation: facts from scientific studies or direct observation that disagree with the conspiracy theorist's pet theory.

Patriot: cop-hater

Peer review paper - Posting one theories on the internet and having fellow troofers agree with you.

Plane crazy: Unable to appreciate that a fully-loaded airliner crashing into a building might do considerable damage.

Professional engineer - Disinfo agent

Research: watching YouTube clips over and over again

Kevin Ryan - President of UL, the company that stamped the WTC towers, certifying that they would stand forever barring use of a thermite initiated controlled demolition.

Sheep/Sheeple -- Not to be confused with shill, a sheep is someone who refuses to examine the evidence and your analysis of it, or is too simple minded to comprehend it. You can tell they have not paid attention to the Truth™ because they do not believe the Truth™ (naturally anyone who has seen your evidence cant help but be convinced, because no one has higher standard of evidence than the truth movement)

Slowblind: Unable to realise that very large objects seen from a long way away seem to be moving much slower than they really are.

Smoking gun: any peculiarity or anomaly in the official story, misconstrued as proof of an elaborate conspiracy

Speed of gravity: the speed at which the Twin Towers fell; halfway between the speed of the dust and that of the squibs.

Thermaphrodite (n.) - A high-temperature incendiary compound that contains elements of both thermite and thermite, and constantly changes between the two

Trolled demolition: Activity carried out by faceless minions who seek to dispose of sensible arguments by endless nonsense.

Truth: Anything I say; not what you say. And... and... You can't tell me what to say! You don't own me! It's a free country and ... and.... my mommy said we are allowed to speak our opinions, in America. So there, Poopy Head!

Truth movement: Group of angry white guys with IQ's in the mid-80s, joined by their common hatred of GWB and general sense of powerlessness.

Very Interesting means something is a small minor anomaly to regular human beings but proof of massive conspiracy to troofers.

Victim - a person alternately pitied or accused of being deeply involved in a conspiracy to murder thousands depending on context, audience, and time elapsed since last dose of medication; see also firefighter

Violating the laws of physics - From studying the evidence, events occured in conformance with scientific law, but since I've never actually taken a science course I'm much too dumb to understand.

Waking up to the Truth: Having a complete mental breakdown, with permanent impairment of higher cognitive functions.

Within their own footprint: Any large undefined area around a controlled demolition.

Woo-dunit (n.) - a narrative dealing with a well-understood murder or series of murders, in which conspiracy theorists attempt to determine what shadowy global-domination group was really behind it all. Rhymes with "whodunit."

WTCing is believing: Adage expressing the ability to interpret visual information any number of ways but the sensible one.

The X-Files: A factural serial documentary about how the government operates and what technology it possesses

Youtube - The world's leading consortium of scientific evidence.

Zionists: JOOOOOS

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#18. To: Jethro Tull, Christine, Brian S, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#1)

The city refunded Larry's 'investment,' in the end - go figure!

SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-06-13   11:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: can of corn (#2)

There was some investigation into what Israeli inteeligence might have known. But there is no evidence that the celebrating Jews or anyone else had foreknowledge of the attacks (the Jews deny celebrating).

One of those dancing movers picked up in New Jersey admitted later that they were there "to document the event." So much for your "no foreknowledge" schtick.

Not a big deal, he has the entire complex to use as collateral. I don't think he will be turned down on any financing arrangement. He still makes out like a thief no matter how you cut it.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-13   12:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: can of corn (#5)

Because you can't just go do a controlled demolition by hiding a suitcase bomb in a closet.

So this is the absurd level you take a logical argument?

I know nothing about controlled demolitions, nor do you, but I do become suspicious when buildings, steel buildings, collapse related to a fire that cannot reach the necessary temperature to melt steel. Add to this the strange case of a van stopped in NJ on Sept. 11 that contained five (?) JOOOOOOOS and blasting equiptment. IIRC, some if not all, of the occupants had connections to the Mossad and/or the IDF. WTF is that about, or does political correctness stop you from looking at suspicious activity b/c the possible perps are JOOOOOOOOOOOOS?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-13   12:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BTP Holdings (#19)

One of those dancing movers picked up in New Jersey admitted later that they were there "to document the event."

Every single person who pointed a camera at the WTCs were there to "document the event," and none had foreknowledge.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   12:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Critter (#14)

The buildings collapsed at the exact point of airplane impact.

So which is it:

Did someone preplant demolitions at the exact point of plane impact, the pilots were skilled enough to hit these exact locations, and the explosives survived the impact or was somenone in the building planting explosives in 55 minutes after the impact?

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   12:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

This is demonstrable of the prep work required to perform a controlled demolition

In 24 days, CDI's 12 person loading crew placed 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices were installed in CDI's implosion initiation system. As the implosion required the detonation of a total of 2,728 lb. of explosives, CDI implemented 36 “primary delays" and an additional 216 “micro-delays" in the implosion initiation sequence in an attempt to keep detonation overpressure to a minimum.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   12:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: wbales (#17)

And for extra credit explain how/why WTC 7 came down.

Ask the firemen on the scene who were sure collapse was imminent dur to the structural damage:

First responder: "You see where the white smoke is? You see this thing leaning like this? It's definitely coming down. There's no way to stop it. Cause you have to go up in there to put it out and it already - the structural integrity is just not there in the building. It's tough, it's.. it's.. You know we can handle just about anything, this is beyond...

Video

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   12:37:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: can of corn (#23)

So you've went beyond suggecting that a bomb was planted in a closet of the WTC, to what u consider an impossible timeline. So Bush of you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-13   12:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

So you've went beyond suggecting that a bomb was planted in a closet of the WTC, to what u consider an impossible timeline. So Bush of you.

No, I suggested that a controlled demolition could not have gone unnoticed because it is not as simple as placing a suitcase in a closet.

I then provided an example of whatit would really take for a controlled demolition.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   13:03:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: can of corn (#26)

OK, so we're back to how does steel melt given the temp of fuel.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-13   13:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#10)

Why is anyone wasting their time with this pantload?

Mark

"I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer

Kamala  posted on  2007-06-13   13:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Kamala (#28)

Explosions

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   14:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

so we're back to how does steel melt given the temp of fuel.

it doesn't need to melt.

From the 911 truther dictionary:

Alloyal subject: Person who regards as sacred the creed that steel is perfectly rigid until it melts.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   14:38:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: can of corn (#0)

Great job. I can tell that you spent all day working on this masterpiece. All we need now is a dictionary to translate the ranting of gullible rubes who thought that Saddam Hussein was about the invade the United States (with the help of his WMD's, of course) back in 2003.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-06-13   14:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: can of corn, Zipporah, robin, rowdee, christine, lodwick, Jethro Tull, JC Harris (#12)

By the way my new little pal, unlike my family members who enjoy big meals with lots of different things on their plates, I eat like a railyard hobo, and I'm as happy as I can be eating only one item for dinner.

And, guess what my fave dinner item, my absolute first choice for dinner is?

You guessed it-a can of corn!

I'm not kidding, either. When the little woman and the sperms are eating steaks, potatoes, broccoli and biscuits, I'm eating nothing but a whole can of corn!

Try not to spoil it for me, okay?

I mean, you're not gonna spring your enthusiastic support for "abolishing the 22nd amendment and making Bush emperor for life" on us next, are ya? :)

Gee, I'm glad we had this chat! ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-13   16:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Critter (#14)

The government shills are indefatigable. And as soon as you get rid of one, two more pop up in their place. This is what happens when a government is taken over by deeply evil people, they use your money and your resources against you to spew lies, misinformation and disinformation. And if this shill is banned, two more will pop up in its place. Somewhere there's a government funded boiler room filled with vile twerps and creeps who get their marching orders from the RNC and who then post endless spam on every thread they can find to pollute with their think- tank generated pabulum. It's not enough that the mass media is totally owned and controlled by corporate lackeys, oh no, they have to take over every internet forum and thread they can find as well.

Eh, at least we're not being treated to endless repeats of "ROTFLOL LMBO LMAOROFLOL" etc. And we're not being treated to endless repeats of "KOOKS!" either, so at least we can take some pleasure in that.

Capitalism is NOT an economic system, it's a RELIGION for ASSHOLES!

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2007-06-13   17:18:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Elliott Jackalope (#33)

The government shills are indefatigable

that's how it goes when they get financing.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-06-13   17:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Elliott Jackalope (#33)

The government shills are indefatigable.

From the 911 Twoofer dictionary:

Government shill: someone who disagrees or challenges one's pet theory; any normal person

Government Shill - What you call the other guy when he is winning the argument.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-13   17:48:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: can of corn (#35)

Twoofer

that's so stupid

christine  posted on  2007-06-13   18:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: can of corn (#30) (Edited)

it doesn't need to melt.

The problem is this:

No mathematician or other egghead will dare publish the crunched numbers or write about this because no steel framed building has ever collapsed from fire in the history of the world, and then suddenly three that are heavily insured by the same landlord (and only two which are hit by planes) collapse, fell into their own footprints spilling over when no other place to pile up was available (when the debris was nearly as high as the footprint was square and wide) with additional statistically anonymous exceptions the steel beams broke into pieces no longer than 24 feet, the max length to be loaded onto full length combination rigs for hauling.

Well, these odds are so ridiculous that,

A) they are mathematical and therefore physical impossibilities, and,

B) it is certain to result in suspicious and untimely death(s) for the private person(s) or tank thinker(s) who dared to demonstrate that (unless statistical science is completely disregarded along with the laws of physics, which also do not apply to BushCo) that BushCo and persons unknown are participants in the most evil, deadly and costly acts of treason in the history of the blue planet.

Just as the rules of evidence, (i.e. chain of custody as well as adherence to federal and state criminal statutes and the expressed wishes of many experts to investigate were deliberately and maliciously thwarted and disregarded, and just as the trucks hauling evidence were GPS-tagged and monitored until the steel was on ships steaming for third world recycling mills and the rubble was dumped in areas accessible to the public (after which the chain of evidence was broken and plausible deniability could be invoked in the future to protect the lies from strong, disinfecting sunlight) well, these facts alone would bring US officials and possibly other complicit governments to their knees, and no scientist or credentialed numbers cruncher would dare to expose the truth if she or he loves anyone or anything, because those beloved persons and/or objects could be taken and flushed away forever, along with nearly 3000 other lost souls who are apparently unworthy of the energy expended to investigate your average synagogue vandalism.

Do you think that no one did the math because the methodology doesn't exist or that it was mere oversight?

This regime has proven that the principals will stop at nothing to silence critics and legit investigators, and, just as howling hoardes of "experts" on steel building collapses from fire have surfaced, so would armies of statisticians who would rewrite the mathematical and statistical laws to prove that Bush is the most honest man in the world and that's why G_d talks to him.

And, no matter how compelling and indisputable the evidence, the same BushCo lickspittles, military industrial contractors and paranoid Israel-first dogmaticians would be here, swearing that first you talk to Bush and then you nip and tuck to align pseudo sciences to fit his ever evolving account of that terrible day.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-13   18:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

Just as the rules of evidence, (.e. chain of custody as well as adherence to federal and state criminal statutes and the expressed wishes of many experts to investigate were deliberately and maliciously thwarted and disregarded, and just as the trucks hauling evidence were GPS-tagged and monitored until the steel was on ships steaming for third world recycling mills and the rubble was dumped in areas accessible to the public (after which the chain of evidence was broken and plausible deniability could be invoked in the future to protect the lies from strong, disinfecting sunlight) well, these facts alone would bring US officials and possibly other complicit governments to their knees, and no scientist or credentialed numbers cruncher would dare to expose the truth if she or he loves anyone or anything, because those beloved persons and/or objects could be taken and flushed away forever, along with nearly 3000 other lost souls who are apparently unworthy of the energy expended to investigate your average synagogue vandalism.

OUTSTANDING!!!

christine  posted on  2007-06-13   18:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#38)

Thank you.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-13   19:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: can of corn (#21) (Edited)

Every single person who pointed a camera at the WTCs were there to "document the event," and none had foreknowledge.

LIAR!

Take your pick from the following search results as proof of your lie!

http://tinyurl.com/35wfah

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-13   19:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: can of corn (#35) (Edited)

to be honest, you are not doing very well. you need to be more lively and you need to stop imitating BAC.

call up some of ponchey's old post and see how he did it. he was a pretty good site kook.

also, i think you should put the squirrel picture on your home page. you are not nearly as entertaining as you should be.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-06-13   21:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

odds are so ridiculous

Like fire that can weaken steel enough to bring down re-enforced skyscrapers to their founddations but not singe the corner of the Hijacker's passport?

All I know is, whatever those ID papers were made out of, I want to use that material to build my next house and car.

And don't get me started on the NORAD exersizes on the same day covering the same terrorist situation.

No matter what happened, 9/11 is a huge embaresment for FEDGOV. That's why the Statist shills are attacking anyone who questions the offical line in an attempt to deflect critizism away from the beloved state.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2007-06-13   22:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: can of corn (#22)

I think the core was attacked in several key areas with explosives set beforehand.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-06-13   23:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: can of corn (#30)

Alloyal subject: Person who regards as sacred the creed that steel is perfectly rigid until it melts.

Steel that loses strength from being heated does not fail catastrophically. It fails slowly and gradually.


Enemies of the Republic

Critter  posted on  2007-06-13   23:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

"Debris removed from Ground Zero - particularly the large steel columns from towers #1 and 2 - were quickly shipped overseas to prevent independent examination or scrutiny."

PROTEC COMMENT: Not according to those who handled the steel.

The large steel support members extracted from Ground Zero were handled differently than other debris, mostly because of their size and quantity (this type of initial separation increases jobsite efficiency and is not unusual on demolition projects).

Once the steel was extracted and/or cut away from other debris, it was piled in staging areas just outside the work zone. These piles were then loaded onto trucks that transported them a few blocks north to a secondary staging area on the Hudson River. Cranes transferred the steel from the trucks onto barges, which were shipped to Fresh Kills Landfill in Staten Island. At this point it transferred into the control of Yannuzzi Demolition, whose team was responsible for off-loading the barges and storing the steel in an area separate from general debris arriving on other barges. It was then examined and cataloged by a series of forensic investigators, city officials and site managers. Some time later (the timing varied due to logistical factors), the steel was shipped off site to China.

Our research team can personally verify the Lower Manhattan chain of possession, as we witnessed and documented this chain. We then reviewed activities that occurred at Fresh Kills by speaking with John Yannuzzi, President of Yannuzzi Demolition. Our team also reviewed commentary made by Dennis Dannenfelser, Yannuzzi's Fresh Kills Site Supervisor, who oversaw the entire operation from start to finish and spoke candidly and extensively at the National Demolition Association's annual Convention in March 2003. According to all parties, the steel went through the same series of steps as it would have on any other demolition project, albeit on a larger scale and with an increased presence of examiners. No one we spoke with perceived an attempt to 'tush'' or hide the process, and to the opposite, dozens if not hundreds of unrelated individuals - working for various entities and possessing various types of expertise - came in close contact with the steel over a period of months before it was eventually shipped overseas.

In consideration of these first-hand experiences and interviews, and absent any dissenting commentary, we can find nothing to support this assertion.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   8:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

First time in history

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   8:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Critter (#44)

Steel that loses strength from being heated does not fail catastrophically. It fails slowly and gradually.

And why do you think that was any different here? Do you expect to see visual evidence of gradual bowing and weakening of the supporting trusses? Oh, wait maybe there is some after all:

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   8:37:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: BTP Holdings (#40)

Thanks for directing me to you anti-Semite propaganda site. There is still nothing there that documents anybody had foreknowledge of the attacks.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   8:41:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: HOUNDDAWG (#37)

ust as howling hoardes of "experts"

From the twoofer dictionary:

Expert: Someone with no training in a particular field but who can issue analyses that dispute all the so-called experts.

So-called Experts: Someone not to be believed just because they have advanced degrees and years of experience in a particular field.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   8:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: can of corn (#47)

You are BeALoser redux, it seems.

Those photos have been debunked. Try again.


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-14   9:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: can of corn (#48)

Thanks for directing me to you anti-Semite propaganda site.

Fuck you, you stupid son of a bitch. You are history. Hope you like the filter, BOZO!

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BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-14   9:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Critter (#50)

Those photos have been debunked. Try again.

No, they haven't. They've been rationalized by those who refuse to accept any other explanation than Bush and the Joos blew up the WTCs.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   10:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: BTP Holdings (#51)

Fuck you, you stupid son of a bitch. You are history. Hope you like the filter, BOZO!

LOL

Somebody didn't use his hemmorhoid cream.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   10:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: can of corn (#53)

Somebody didn't use his hemmorhoid cream.

How come you didn't call him an America Hater?

Are we not supposed to use that one anymore?


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can of balls  posted on  2007-06-14   10:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: can of corn (#52)

No, fully debunked.

If those are sagging floors, they must be detached from the perimeter columns to be seen through the windows like that. So how, pray tell, do they pull in on the perimeter columns initiating the collapse sequence described by NIST?


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-14   11:25:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Critter (#55)

they must be detached from the perimeter columns to be seen through the windows like that.

No they wouldn't.

As the fires moved on to find new sources of fuel (Desks, seats, paper, plastic, etc..) the expanded truss cools and contracts. This contraction happened over a period of time and over many floors. This is a very important point, because had it only been one floor contracting the perimeter may not have buckled as much.

If a floor sags, it pulls both the perimeter columns and core columns toward the center of the floor. Because the core columns are stronger than the perimeter, the perimeter is the side that gets pulled in.

There are plenty of photographs from every angle which show the slow progression of sagging of trusses and bowing perimeter columns. It would be impossible for the NIST or anyone else to fabricate the photos. It was one of the most photographed and videoed events in history.

A helicopter pilot saw this about 10 min before collapse but had no way of communicating that to the people in charge.

A bow is clearly visible on the right hand perimeter wall as trusses sag and pull in the perimeter columns. The photo below is NOT from the NIST report.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-14   11:48:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: can of corn (#45)

According to all parties, the steel went through the same series of steps as it would have on any other demolition project, albeit on a larger scale and with an increased presence of examiners.

Supposedly, this was -NOT- a demolition project. It was a crime scene.

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-06-16   5:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: can of corn (#53)

Somebody didn't use his hemmorhoid cream.

Somebody should not use long words such as hemorrhoid.

LOL -- darn, you are less than half as funny as BAC (ROTFLOL).

nolu_chan  posted on  2007-06-16   6:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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