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Title: Nightmare at Reagan National Airport: A Security Story to End all Security Stories
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URL Source: http://www.nowpublic.com/nightmare_ ... ry_to_end_all_security_stories
Published: Jun 14, 2007
Author: Bill Adler
Post Date: 2007-06-14 16:58:47 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 356
Comments: 28
If you travel enough, you've seen it all -- and possibly some of the awful things that can happen while traveling will have actually happened to you. But nothing I've read about or experienced comes close to what Monica Emmerson experienced while at Reagan National Airport on June 11th while traveling with her 19-month-old toddler. This isn't one of those Catch-22 bureaucratic snafus; this isn't about rules being applied to the letter. This story is mostly about what can happen simply because the authorities in charge decide that they're going to exercise their authority because they can, regardless of whether it's legal or right or makes any sense at all. The incident started when Monica was stopped while going through airport security because there was water in her son's sippy cup. The sippy cup was seized by TSA. Monica wanted the cup back because the sippy cup was the only way her son would drink -- and it was a long flight between Washington, DC and Reno, Nevada where she was going for a family reunion. If you've ever had a toddler you understand about sippy cups. So she was willing to spill the water out. Drink the water. Anything -- all that she wanted was to be able to have a cup that her 19-month-old toddler could drink from. Here's what happened in Monica's words: "I demanded to speak to a TSA [Transportation Security Administration] supervisor who asked me if the water in the sippy cup was 'nursery water or other bottled water.' I explained that the sippy cup water was filtered tap water. The sippy cup was seized as my son was pointing and crying for his cup. I asked if I could drink the water to get the cup back, and was advised that I would have to leave security and come back through with an empty cup in order to retain the cup. As I was escorted out of security by TSA and a police officer, I unscrewed the cup to drink the water, which accidentally spilled because I was so upset with the situation. "At this point, I was detained against my will by the police officer and threatened to be arrested for endangering other passengers with the spilled 3 to 4 ounces of water. I was ordered to clean the water, so I got on my hands and knees while my son sat in his stroller with no shoes on since they were also screened and I had no time to put them back on his feet. I asked to call back my fiancé, who I could still see from afar, waiting for us to clear security, to watch my son while I was being detained, and the officer threatened to arrest me if I moved. So I yelled past security to get the attention of my fiancé. "I was ordered to apologize for the spilled water, and again threatened arrest. I was threatened several times with arrest while detained, and while three other police officers were called to the scene of the mother with the 19 month old. A total of four police officers and three TSA officers reported to the scene where I was being held against my will. I was also told that I should not disrespect the officer and could be arrested for this too. I apologized to the officer and she continued to detain me despite me telling her that I would miss my flight. The officer advised me that I should have thought about this before I 'intentionally spilled the water!'" Monica said that the incident ended this way: "I missed my flight, needless to say after being detained for over 40 minutes. After the officer was done humiliating me, I was advised that I could go through the security check point in an attempt to catch my flight. The officer insisted that my son and I be rescreened despite us both being detained and under her control the entire time." During the weeks and months after 9/11 some passengers who were caught with unidentified fluids while going through airport security were told to drink the liquid (including breast milk) to prove that it wasn't an explosive. In one incident, a fourteen year old boy was ordered to drink water that he was carrying, and it turned out that this was unclean pond water he was carrying for a science project. Monica was more than happy to drink her child's tap water --all three or four ounces of it-- and tried, in fact. But it was the trying and spilling that seems to have escalated this into a situation that required the presence of four TSA officers and three police officers. TSA found no other security problems with Monica Emmerson. Not even a nail clipper. Just the water and the sippy cup. TSA's rules allow passengers to take up to three ounces of liquid on board; they also allow parents to take milk or baby formula on board in larger quantities than that, if declared to TSA. But the question that she was asked by TSA --was this "nursery water" in the sippy cup?-- was an unanswerable one, since there's no such thing as nursery water in the TSA regulations, and it's not generic term. Monica Emmerson was detained for 45 minutes. She wasn't questioned about possible ties to terrorists. Her carry-on items weren't rigorously searched -- or even searched again. Neither the police nor TSA took any action that indicated that they through she might be a security risk. She was just detained, harassed and threatened with arrest. All because of a sippy cup with water in it.
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
"They hate us for our freedoms."
I've read on other sites that it isn't possible to sue to get your name taken off the no-fly list. I wonder if Monica Emmerson has any recourse.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
This chaps my ass!!! The sons of bitches that had the Patriot Act conveniently ready and waiting after 9-11, including everyone who passed this POS and any of these other faux "safety" rules, and the authors of the "DHS" [zieg heil!] will all someday find themselves standing on the gallows after a citizen trial. I hope I live to see that day. For our children's sake. For they are traitors and the enemies of Freedom.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition When certain things become "not possible," the representatives of TheStateInc have placed themselves in a very pracarious situation. One day, ThePeople will again take back their freedoms.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition I would have been sorely tempted to punch the lights out of any security guard/officer or cop that demanded an apology for spilling water. This story pisses me off too, and is only an appetizer for the sort of life everywhere in the NAU/USA they have planned for us. At some point, people have to decide if they want to risk life and limb for liberty or to live on their knees as slaves to these bastards. It's amazing how bad it has gotten here, especially under the chimp.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
That point is now. As for me, give me Liberty or give me Death.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Agreed.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
This make me furious. Ignorant assholes on a power trip, getting off on intimidating a young mother with her toddler. This country has gone to hell, there is no turning back.
Me too. Had that been me, I'd be in jail now.
I believe you my dear. One thing I learned a long time ago about Alaskans, they are generally there because they love their freedoms and have a stubborn intoleration for over officious assholes. That more of the country could be like you and many like you in your state. ;-)
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
That's why I flat out refuse to fly. I will end up in jail, no doubt.
The Onion recently had an article, "Retired General Washington Criticizes Bush." Somehow, I think the people who founded this country would not find things like this amusing. These security people would be working at McDonald's if not for this, and they're given unreasonable, stupid levels of power. A freakin' sippy cup? I loved an ad that Ryan Air (a cheapo Irish airline) had on their website, about 500 naked people going through security. I may be an outlier on this stuff, but is anyone seriously worried about terrorism? It's like walking around day after day worrying about lightening strikes or the frozen toilet contents of a passing airplane dropping on your head. Yeah, 3,000 people died horribly. I really feel for them and their families. However, many more than that have died in a senseless war against "terrorism." Otherwise sane people vote happily to have their freedoms stripped from them. If I was bin Laden, I'd laugh myself sick every night watching Fux News doing his terrorism work for him.
Dream on about justice. These goons will just continue to get more arrogant. I would expect to see a special effort made to get our newly legalized citizens some of these and other law enforcement jobs. The guys in charge know that Americans intimidate easily and the conditioning will be picking up speed.
Yeah, that and as "gun collectors" when martial law is declared. The Turner Diaries comes to life.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition This incident reminds me that soon these nightmares will become common place for anyone that can't produce their National I.D. Card. All of the bureaucratic bullshit and snafus associated with the DMV will attach to every activity that one encounters in a normal day. Store clerks will become Gestapo agents like these TSA goons. I can't wait !!!!!
RON PAUL or REVOLUTION [ALL MEDIA: We don't report and you certainly don't decide]
Until we pussy Americans are going to say enough, we're just gonna have to eat this crap.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
I would put a canned snake, you know,the trick spring snakes used by clowns, ito my lugage for these TSA goons to get a big surprise. Matter of fact, eveyone who flies should go to the nearest magicians trick shop and pick one up. These dodos will get the message real quick and we will get big belly laughs at their expense.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
They'll find a way to put us in jail for that, too. Zieg Heil!!!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Maybe, but while you are watching them rifle thru your suitcase, and they pick up the can, wondering, you give them a fair warning, "Don't open that." What do you thing Dudley Doright will do next? That's right, he will open the can. Then you can give the jerk a stout, "I told you so," while you try to gather in the snake. It would be funnier than shit, but I bet no one has the guts to do it. You know the boneheads will have no sense of humor. ;0)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Which is exactly why I will NEVER fly again. After reading shit like this nearly every day, there's no fucking way I want to get on a plane. I'll take a train, bus, or boat, but never will I get on a plane again. I encourage everyone to boycott flying for this very reason. Too many morons given way too much power, because of 9-11. We have our NSA, CIA, FBI, and of course the Immigration and Nationalization Department for not making sure that 19 hijackers didn't carry out 9-11, and yet... We the people of the United States are made to pay. Hilarious.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
I'll have to check on that one, Mike. "Nursery water" might be what they call that water that is bottled and poisoned with FLOURIDE for use by babies. oh wait....that was easy! Nursery® Water - Welcome Since 1948, Nursery® Purified Water with added Fluoride, processed by steam distillation, has been trusted by new mothers like you for mixing with infant ... http://www.nurserywater.com/home.html bastards!!! that's "my" airport....want to sound off everytime I go in there and watch our people jumping through their hoops, while they probably sit and watch the cameras laughing their assess off.....911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
This kind of crap really makes me hot.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
me too! I was trying to find out if there was some connection to the company that sells this water and godgov, but this is all I came up with: DS Waters of America, Inc. Company Profile Whether your glass is half empty or half full, DS Waters of America fills it up. The company is a home and office water delivery business. It has more than 25 manufacturing sites and employs approximately 5,500 people in some 30 states. Regional brands offered by the company include Alhambra, Belmont Springs, Crystal Springs, Hinckley Springs, Kentwood Springs, Sierra Springs, and Sparkletts. DS Waters of America was initially created in 2003 as a 50-50 joint venture comprised of the North American operations of Groupe Danone and Suntory International. Danone later bought out Suntory's stake. In 2005 Danone sold the operation to private investment fund Kelso & Co.. http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/110/110333.html CALL NOW (866) 464-3156 or register below to learn how you can access all of DS Waters's executive information. Links to DS Waters Executive Biographies Co-CEO Stewart E. Allen Co-CEO Dillion Schickli CFO Dan Redfern http://www.hoovers.com/ds-waters/--ID__110333,target__executive_list--/free-co-samples-index.xhtml Who are DS Waters competitors? Who should DS Waters consider a competitor? Who are the main competitors in this industry? DS Waters Competitors DS Waters competitors are primarily in the Coffee & Water Beverage Services industry. DS Waters also competes in the Nonalcoholic Beverages sector. DS Waters competitive landscape includes: * Eldorado Artesian Springs * Nestlé Waters * Vermont Pure of course there is always the flouride connection: Fluoride and Drinking Water - Elite Connection to Fluoride and ... The Fluoride and Drinking Water Conspiracy. International Bankers' Influence on Fluoride and Drinking Water is Poisoning Us. http://www.fdrs.org/fluoride_and_drinking_water.html Fluoride Quotes - Fluoridation Quotes Major Media Hides Fluoride Quotes That Show a Government Conspiracy Supporting ... The Fluoride and Drinking Water Conspiracy · Exposing the Truth Behind ... http://www.fdrs.org/fluoride_quotes.html I picked up a bottle of that "nursery water" a while back, when the store was out of distilled, thinking it was safe. Not until I got it home did I see it had flouride in it, the main thing I was trying to get away from! My blood boiled as I read this article...there are several people I will share this with...folks for whom it will strike "home", as it did for me....hopefully, it will wake them up to what I've been trying to tell them to no avail.
You did good. You tied this all right back to the Bush Crime Family.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
i did? well, that's what i was trying to do, but what am i missing...where is the direct link?
I.G. Farben and the Nazis.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
I've boycotted flying commercial since before 9-11 and I fly for free, so you can tell I'm serious about it! I refuse to gop through this s**t in my own country and be mistreated by a bunch of formerly minimum wage monkeys who now are the same monkeys only with a Federal patch on their shoulder.
Law Enforcement Against ProhibitionRemember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#3. To: Ferret Mike, BTP HOLDINGS, NOONE222, SOMEBODY GET A ROPE, A PATRIOT, CHRISTINE (#0)
#4. To: aristeides (#2)
I've read on other sites that it isn't possible to sue to get your name taken off the no-fly list
#5. To: IndieTX (#3)
#6. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
At some point, people have to decide if they want to risk life and limb for liberty or to live on their knees as slaves to these bastards
#7. To: IndieTX (#6)
#8. To: IndieTX, All (#3)
I was also told that I should not disrespect the officer and could be arrested for this too.
#9. To: Ferret Mike, IndieTX (#5)
I would have been sorely tempted to punch the lights out of any security guard/officer or cop that demanded an apology for spilling water.
#10. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.
#11. To: Diana (#9)
"Had that been me, I'd be in jail now."
#12. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
I would have been sorely tempted to punch the lights out of any security guard/officer or cop that demanded an apology for spilling water.
Enemies of the Republic
#13. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#14. To: IndieTX (#3)
#15. To: willyone (#14)
I would expect to see a special effort made to get our newly legalized citizens some of these and other law enforcement jobs
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#19. To: BTP Holdings (#18)
canned snake
#20. To: IndieTX (#19)
They'll find a way to put us in jail for that, too. Zieg Heil!!!
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
But the question that she was asked by TSA --was this "nursery water" in the sippy cup?-- was an unanswerable one, since there's no such thing as nursery water in the TSA regulations, and it's not generic term.
#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#22)
has been trusted by new mothers like you
#24. To: BTP Holdings (#23)
#25. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)
#26. To: BTP Holdings (#25)
#27. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#26)
where is the direct link?
#28. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#21)
I encourage everyone to boycott flying for this very reason
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