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9/11
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Title: The Best Rebuttal To The Truthers
Source: rhymeswithright
URL Source: http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/229396.php
Published: Jun 15, 2007
Author: rhymeswithright
Post Date: 2007-06-15 09:11:39 by can of corn
Keywords: twoofers, tinfoil, ron paul
Views: 3374
Comments: 92

You know, those loons that cannot believe that 9/11 was a terrorist attack and that instead our own government attacked America on 9/11.

No, it isn't an appeal to eyewitnesses, of whom there are many. It isn't an appeal to science, which overwhelmingly demonstrates that the official version is correct. Rather, it is a simple appeal to logic.

[T]o believe in many of these kooky conspiracy theories, you have to believe that tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, politicians, bureaucrats, journalists, FBI agents, and CIA agents all know about an incredibly complex, monstrous plot against the United States, and are keeping their lips sealed while Charlie Sheen, Rosie O'Donnell, and the fruit loops who think Bush is a puppet of the Freemasons have figured it all out.

So much like the claim that the moon landings all took place in a soundstage, simple reality cannot sustain the conspiracy claims. After all, given the inability of small groups of people to keep small secrets, there is no way that a large group of people could possibly keep "the truth" hidden if 9/11 was a government conspiracy.

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#1. To: can of corn (#0)

It doesn't take that many.

How many knew about the Reichstag Fire?

robin  posted on  2007-06-15   9:14:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#1) (Edited)

As David Ray Griffin points out, the secret of the Manhattan Project was kept for several years, even though many thousands of people must have known about it to some extent.

One might add that the secret of our having cracked the Enigma German cypher machine was kept for 30 years or so, even though, again, many thousands of people were briefed enough about the project to know that much.

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-15   9:48:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: aristeides (#7)

The Bush Administration couldn't even keep his wiretapping programs from being leaked. It's idiocy to suggest he could pull off a job like this without somebody leaking it.

And BTW, since hijackers didn't really fly planes with passengers into the WTCs, where are those planes and passengers and crew now? I'd love to here how Bush was supposed to have all these whisked away secretly without anyone noticing. You think Babara Olsen is now living on some secluded Pacific island?

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-15   9:55:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: can of corn (#9)

And BTW, since hijackers didn't really fly planes with passengers into the WTCs, where are those planes and passengers and crew now? I'd love to here how Bush was supposed to have all these whisked away secretly without anyone noticing. You think Babara Olsen is now living on some secluded Pacific island?

You really do love those straw men, don't you? I haven't committed myself to any particular theory of what happened on 9/11, merely to the conclusion that the official account of 9/11 is itself so absurd as to be unbelievable. Plenty of alternatives leave the planes hitting the buildings and the hijackers on board the planes.

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-15   10:21:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: aristeides (#13)

I haven't committed myself to any particular theory of what happened on 9/11,

Nor do any of the twoofers, because they can't fathom a plausible real life scenario that correlates with their conspiracy fantasies.

It's impossible to know EXACTLY what happened during the building collpases. And people can hear things which SOUND like explosions. And witnesses always have conflicting accounts. And some people will say controversial things just for publicity. Etc. Etc.

The twoofers dwell on such minitia as proof of some kind of conspiracy, but in reality, the conspiracy only exists in their brain addled imaginations.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-15   10:28:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: can of corn (#14)

That our air defense system failed to perform as it always had you think is a piece of minutiae?

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-15   10:33:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: aristeides (#15)

That our air defense system failed to perform as it always had you think is a piece of minutiae?

WRONG

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-15   10:36:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: can of corn (#17)

I suggest you read David Ray Griffin's Debunking 9/11 Debunking. I believe he refutes the arguments that appear to be at your link.

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-15   10:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: aristeides (#19)

No, the link I gave you addresses the rebuttals as well as refuting the original claim.

can of corn  posted on  2007-06-15   10:40:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: can of corn (#20) (Edited)

No, the link I gave you addresses the rebuttals as well as refuting the original claim.

Then why don't you post them here and go through them?

Is it easier to post a suspicious link to a mass of crap and then say: "If you were to wade through that mess you would see I am right." ?

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#24. To: ... (#21)

Then why don't you post them here and go through them?

Because, there are many links within the link I gave adressing all the points, and the arguments are long and detailed, and it's not practical to post them here.

I'm sorry that no Alex Jones' type 30 second sound bite is available. I'm aware that that is what the twoofers normally consider "proof."

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