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Title: TSA detains woman over infant's sippy cup -- I feel safer!
Source: Boing Boing
URL Source: http://boingboing.net/
Published: Jun 15, 2007
Author: Boing Boing
Post Date: 2007-06-15 21:58:59 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 1089
Comments: 51

TSA detains woman over infant's sippy cup -- I feel safer!

Jordan says: "This [story published in NowPublic] just made my blood boil: a mom was bullied by a gaggle of security officers at Dulles National (Reagan) Aiport over the water in her 19-month-old son's sippy cup. The story starts out sort of funny, with the sippy cup being seen as some sort of deadly weapon, but quickly spirals into nightmare territory. This is a national embarassment; I feel more threatened by these uniformed goons than I do by terrorists, and I lived in NYC during 9/11."

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"I demanded to speak to a TSA [Transportation Security Administration] supervisor who asked me if the water in the sippy cup was 'nursery water or other bottled water.' I explained that the sippy cup water was filtered tap water. The sippy cup was seized as my son was pointing and crying for his cup. I asked if I could drink the water to get the cup back, and was advised that I would have to leave security and come back through with an empty cup in order to retain the cup. As I was escorted out of security by TSA and a police officer, I unscrewed the cup to drink the water, which accidentally spilled because I was so upset with the situation.

"At this point, I was detained against my will by the police officer and threatened to be arrested for endangering other passengers with the spilled 3 to 4 ounces of water. I was ordered to clean the water, so I got on my hands and knees while my son sat in his stroller with no shoes on since they were also screened and I had no time to put them back on his feet.

"I was ordered to apologize for the spilled water, and again threatened arrest. I was threatened several times with arrest while detained, and while three other police officers were called to the scene of the mother with the 19 month old. A total of four police officers and three TSA officers reported to the scene where I was being held against my will. I was also told that I should not disrespect the officer and could be arrested for this too. I apologized to the officer and she continued to detain me despite me telling her that I would miss my flight. The officer advised me that I should have thought about this before I 'intentionally spilled the water!'"

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#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

It was just an anecdote, it was not allowed on the plane.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-06-15   22:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3)

Oh okay.. I thought you meant an article

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-15   22:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0) (Edited)

She needs a personal apology from Little Hitler...ahh..I mean Chimp. The explicit details in the other article will make your blood boil.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-15   22:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin, ALL (#3)

The TSA is denying this story ..heres a link from the TSA 'Mythbusters' :P

http://www.tsa.gov/approach/mythbusters/index.shtm

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-15   22:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IndieTX (#5)

See the link I just posted to robin and ALL

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-15   22:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#0)

these little gestapos make me ill. i can sure understand anyone refusing to fly and subjecting themselves to this kind of abuse and humiliation.

christine  posted on  2007-06-15   22:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#7)

I wonder.

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington

robin  posted on  2007-06-15   22:13:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

.. me too,..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-15   22:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#10)

.. me too,..

...mi 3....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-15   22:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)

hey ..! how is ya? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-15   22:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#6)

the video proves the woman's story is true.

christine  posted on  2007-06-15   22:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#12)

hey ..! how is ya? :P

So, tired I've almost fallen out of this chair twee times in 5 minutes....

I guess it's back to my crib....

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-15   22:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#8)

these little gestapos make me ill. i can sure understand anyone refusing to fly and subjecting themselves to this kind of abuse and humiliation.

Amen. I'd like to take a trip east to visit an Aunt of mine, but I will not put myself to the indignity of dealing with the submoron goons at the airport. So, it's either drive, or Greyhound. It's a nice Bus Ride through the Rockies but those seats are a mite uncomfortable after about 12 or 14 hours.

As well who knows if they've been put on the "harass list" for being outspoken in the first place? I have not flown since before 911 and post 911 it is more hassle than it is worth. Doubly so since I firmly believe a lot of it totally unnecessary.

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-15   22:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#15)

is a amtrak available? i had a friend who recently took a trip on the train and really enjoyed it. good food and most of the travelling is overnight and you can get a sleep cabin.

christine  posted on  2007-06-15   23:04:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Zipporah (#0)

"At this point, I was detained against my will by the police officer and threatened to be arrested for endangering other passengers with the spilled 3 to 4 ounces of water. I was ordered to clean the water, so I got on my hands and knees while my son sat in his stroller with no shoes on since they were also screened and I had no time to put them back on his feet.

"I was ordered to apologize for the spilled water, and again threatened arrest. I was threatened several times with arrest while detained, and while three other police officers were called to the scene of the mother with the 19 month old. A total of four police officers and three TSA officers reported to the scene where I was being held against my will. I was also told that I should not disrespect the officer and could be arrested for this too. I apologized to the officer and she continued to detain me despite me telling her that I would miss my flight. The officer advised me that I should have thought about this before I 'intentionally spilled the water!'"

This has got nothing to do with safety. It is all about terror. And the TSA goons are the terrorists. Every single one of them should be beaten to a pulp.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-15   23:06:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BTP Holdings (#17)

This has got nothing to do with safety. It is all about terror. And the TSA goons are the terrorists. Every single one of them should be beaten to a pulp.

Bingo! Do you like Cigars? Just joking. Yes, what it is about is conditioning large numbers of people to accept and comply with Police State tactics. They are goons and it is nothing more, or less, that a psychological conditioning regimen.

"It's for the children." /Gag Reflex

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-15   23:27:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#16)

is a amtrak available? i had a friend who recently took a trip on the train and really enjoyed it. good food and most of the travelling is overnight and you can get a sleep cabin.

I've looked at that and Amtrak travels well north of where I need to get to. I'd have to transfer to Bus at some point anyway so I might as well bus it all the way. A sleeper would be nice though. I used to ride the train a lot when I was in the service. As a lowly E-4 I got drunk with the C.O. of the Enterprise enroute to San Diego (he was a Gin and Tonic man - make mine Whiskey - tis the only fitting drink for a Mon.). I miss the old Club Cars. The new trains, while the seats are more comfortable, do not have the character of the old ones - or the intimacy.

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-15   23:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: BTP Holdings (#17)

"I was ordered to apologize for the spilled water

My reply would be "Fuck you ! Clean it up yourself !"

There is nowhere I have to be in the next few hours or even a day when I am travelling !

I have had it out in a yelling match with TSA once and Border Patrol once...won both times !

Punks and hoodlums !

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-15   23:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent, christine (#19)

is a amtrak available?

Problem with Amtrak is it is as expensive or more expensive that a flight...

you travel through the wonderful world of herbicide -sprayed rail right of ways...

and all your time is spent on the train...hours hours , days, ....ugh I hate sitting anyway!

all your time is spent travelling rather in arriving at the destination and doing what you set out to do....

if I want to wander and explore, I will take my car or hike .

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-15   23:41:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: JCHarris (#20)

During one of my pre 9/11 flights out of Reagan the ticket agent asked me routinely if my bags had ever been out of my control. I said no if you didn't count the escalator. Probably couldn't get away with that today.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-15   23:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: JCHarris (#20) (Edited)

Punks and hoodlums !

I worked concert security (crowd control specialist) for 11 years in Chicago. During all that time we we always outnumbered for any show we worked. Yeah, we used intimidation tactics at times and even fear in the proper perspective. It helped to be just plain crazy, too. Let's face it, I was a bouncer.

I would never have tolerated this sort of crap from anyone on my crew. I'm sure we nailed a few people who may not have deserved it, but sometimes things get to the point where you have to show no mercy to keep everything from blowing up and losing the crowd and the venue. This incident in the airport was nothing of the sort. These idiots are rank amateurs.

This sort of thing in the airport don't even cut it as a tense situation. Those jerks needed a good upbraiding at a minimum. To threaten this woman with arrest is the same as threatening to shoot her from where I see it. If you pull it, you better use it.

I would never threaten anyone (unless they were on the way out), but fair warnings were game many times and repeat dick heads got muscled. Most never got a second chance to be an asshole, they were outa there. These goons would never last five minutes under the conditions I had to work some of those shows. They would be dead meat. And I'll tell you straight out, I would not want any of them watching my back either.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-15   23:59:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Zipporah (#6)

That doesn't bust nothing! You can see the cop grab the girl!!! We can not hear any audio of her being verbally abused but it is OBVIOUS she is being fucked with!! I hope this left handed fat ass female cop got off on her power trip. Next time I'm at BWI, I'll see if I can find this wench and give her a piece of my cop's mind and tell her she doesn't deserve to wear the freeking badge.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-16   0:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: BTP Holdings, JCHarris (#23)

These goons would never last five minutes under the conditions I had to work some of those shows.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-16   0:04:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BTP Holdings (#17)

It is all about terror. And the TSA goons are the terrorists. Every single one of them should be beaten to a pulp.

That just may happen sooner rather than later.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-16   0:07:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#25)

LOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-16   0:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: IndieTX, Original_Intent, JCHarris, Percy Dovetonsils, wudidiz (#26)

Oh God a hangman's noose. I'm having flashbacks!!!


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-16   0:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BTP Holdings (#23)

I have no problem or disagreement with a single point that you brought up.

My deadlines are self-imposed. I like smiling happy trips. I am a seasoned traveller with a thousand flights all over the world.

I take no shit from TSA or stewardesses or customs. Detain me. But it had better be for cause.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-16   0:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Zipporah (#0)

have you seen the update? I guess there is video.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-16   0:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: farmfriend (#28)

GRRRRRRRRRRRR!

"Nothing looks more like controlled demolition than controlled demolition." ~ Jim Fetzer.

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-16   0:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: wudidiz (#31)

GRRRRRRRRRRRR!

LOL!


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-16   0:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: farmfriend, InieTX (#28)

Oh God a hangman's noose. I'm having flashbacks!!!

IndieTX is stealing my thunder.

We need more rope! ;0)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2007-06-16   0:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: BTP Holdings (#33)

I will donate rope.

"Nothing looks more like controlled demolition than controlled demolition." ~ Jim Fetzer.

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-16   1:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: BTP Holdings (#33)

IndieTX is stealing my thunder.

We need more rope! ;0)

LOL! That's because I've been on a rampage lately!!!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-16   1:17:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: IndieTX, farmfriend, Wudidiz, BTP Holdings, JC Harris (#35)

ORDER IN THE COURT!

THE HONORABLE JUDGE ROY BEAN PRESIDING.

Hang'em.

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-16   1:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Original_Intent (#36)

ORDER IN THE COURT!

THE HONORABLE JUDGE ROY BEAN PRESIDING.

Hang'em.

Screw that! SHOOT 'EM! :))

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-16   1:39:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: IndieTX (#37)

Well, hmmm, can I have a Buntline Special Replica like they one Ned Buntline originally designed? I have to admit I am a traditionalist.

Of course the French had some good ideas too:

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-16   1:42:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: JCHarris, christine (#21)

Problem with Amtrak is it is as expensive or more expensive that a flight...

you travel through the wonderful world of herbicide -sprayed rail right of ways...

and all your time is spent on the train...hours hours , days, ....ugh I hate sitting anyway!

all your time is spent travelling rather in arriving at the destination and doing what you set out to do....

And, I wouldn't sleep much knowing that I'd be be crossing several of this country's unguarded and crumbling rail bridges.

The tragedies that fall into the "Ain't that a shame" category are those hit by barges after hawsers part and before the tug operators have even determined that something is wrong.

How do "they" test the integrity of rail ridges on heavily traveled commercial waterways?

Why, they use fully loaded AMTRAK and freight trains, of course.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-06-16   2:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: IndieTX, Original_Intent, BTP Holdings, FormerLurker, Calamity, farmfriend (#35)

Honestly, I can't explain it, but I actually tried to click Yes.

Of course it didn't do anything.

"Nothing looks more like controlled demolition than controlled demolition." ~ Jim Fetzer.

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-16   2:39:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Zipporah (#6)

That video is supposed to convince me they "busted" the myth?

What an pathetic group of people we have at our airports.....check out the female cop, grabbing the woman by the sleeve, and the absolute waste of time they put through this game.

"Mythbusters" my ass. They harrassed this woman for no good reason.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-16   3:22:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: christine (#8)

No kidding. It's a bunch of Gestapo personalities on that floor, and one pathetic guy herding people around water. Obsessively moving a sign.

God help us.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-16   3:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: IndieTX (#24)

That doesn't bust nothing! You can see the cop grab the girl!!! We can not hear any audio of her being verbally abused but it is OBVIOUS she is being fucked with!!

These people make me sick.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-06-16   3:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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