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Title: Sy Hersh on Taguba’s Abu Ghraib investigation
Source: Crooks and Liars
URL Source: http://crooksandliars.com/
Published: Jun 17, 2007
Author: Sy Hersh
Post Date: 2007-06-17 18:54:15 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 65
Comments: 5

Sy Hersh on Taguba’s Abu Ghraib investigation

By: John Amato @ 3:45 PM - PDT

http://crooksandliars.com/sy-hersh-cnn.jpg Sy Hersh joined Wolf on CNN this morning to talk about his new piece in The New Yorker: “How Antonio Taguba, who investigated the Abu Ghraib scandal, became one of its casualties.” It’s another important story that Sy has brought to our attention. The lies that were told about the Abu Ghraid scandal are staggering as this WH implemented torture into its playbook and the soul of America.

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HERSH: Very simply that the notion, as they told Congress, that our leader, Rumsfeld, Donald Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense and his aides, they all went and testified in May after the stories about Abu Ghraib became public that “Oh, my god, we just didn’t know about it until — we didn’t realize how serious it was” is simply not true.

The fact is that, within a few days of the incident first getting reported internally, which was in January of ‘04, the back channel was flying. There were messages going. And the back channel showed very clearly the documents – the actual cables show that Rumsfeld and his aides and Wolfowitz and his aides and the director of the Joint staff, all these senior people at the Pentagon were getting very detailed — they didn’t see the photographs; they were getting verbal accounts of the photographs that made it very clear.

It doesn’t pay to do a thorough investigation for this White House as Major Gen. Taguba found out, but what about Bush’s role in all of this?

Whether the President was told about Abu Ghraib in January (when e-mails informed the Pentagon of the seriousness of the abuses and of the existence of photographs) or in March (when Taguba filed his report), Bush made no known effort to forcefully address the treatment of prisoners before the scandal became public, or to reëvaluate the training of military police and interrogators, or the practices of the task forces that he had authorized. Instead, Bush acquiesced in the prosecution of a few lower-level soldiers. The President’s failure to act decisively resonated through the military chain of command: aggressive prosecution of crimes against detainees was not conducive to a successful career.

(full transcript via CNN below the fold)


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#1. To: Zipporah, *Torture R US* (#0)

He was brought in early on to investigate. Then, on May 6, 2004, he’s at a meeting with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, all the top brass at the Pentagon. And he’s told you, in an interview, on the record with you, in this new article.

He said this. “I described the naked detainee lying on the wet floor, handcuffed, with an interrogator shoving things up his rectum and said, ‘That’s not abuse. That’s torture.’ There was quiet.” Now, that’s what he said, according to himself on May 6. Here’s what Rumsfeld said the next day, on May 7, when he was testifying before the House Armed Services Committee.

DONALD RUMSFELD, FMR. SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: It breaks our hearts that, in fact, someone didn’t say, wait, look, this is terrible; we need to do something to manage — the legal part of it was proceeding along fine.

What wasn’t proceeding along fine is the fact that the president didn’t know and you didn’t know and I didn’t know. And as a result, somebody just sent a secret report to the press, and there they are.

Listening now. Rumsfeld is such scum, he's evil and an obvious liar.


"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-06-17   19:16:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

How the RW chrisitians still believe in these people is beyond me.. by their fruits ye shall know them.. maybe thats been whited out in their bibles?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-17   19:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

This is all lies of the liberal media, ask my sister.


"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." ~George Washington
Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-06-17   19:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#3)

Your poor sister.. God help her

Zipporah  posted on  2007-06-17   19:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

Of course Bush acquiesced. He's the one who ordered the torture in the first place.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-17   19:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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